Malkorion Posted November 21, 2014 Share Posted November 21, 2014 Ok, so I've been meaning to dig a little deeper into things, but I've been having problems organizing all the information that I find. First I tried to copy my chapters into word files, making comments along the way. After 5 chapters of doing this, I gave up because of how unorganized and messy it was (I used keywords, but it gets lost in the tiny text). 1) How do you actually re-read?2) How do you organize all the information? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hueylouis Posted November 23, 2014 Share Posted November 23, 2014 I re-read with my eyes close because it allows for some personal freedom in the storytelling, you can just imagine the story rather than reading it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jehane Posted November 28, 2014 Share Posted November 28, 2014 I'm currently re-reading the books as well, this time on an e-Reader because the paperbacks are way too heavy to carry around. Also, the e-Reader allows me to mark whole paragraphs that I find noteworthy; it also allows me to write down comments which is a bit awkward because the e-Reader doesn't have a proper keyboard. I try to read slowly this time around and pay more attention to what's happening; it's not easy because I already know what's going to happen so some storylines are just boring (I always have to restrain myself from skipping Jon's POVs, or Arya's in ACoK - same with Bran's) and I don't care much for them. On the other hand, I have already discovered a lot of information that I simply didn't pick up on the first time around because I was too eager to read on and see where the story will go. When I'm done with a book, I go through my notes on the e-Reader and write everything down that comes to mind and/or come to this board to discuss an idea I had when reading. Funny thing about re-reading is that, with all the information of what's to come, my approach to some characters has changed a lot. I like Sansa better than the first time around, I absolutely hate Jon (ok, that hasn't changed much, I never really liked him anyway, it just got worse and worse with every chapter I read), I'd like to cut some of Arya's POVs because they seem like fillers to me (also, I feel sorry for the poor girl... and I hate travelogues). I no longer believe every word a Stark says about a Lannister because it's just their point of view that the Lannisters are evil. Granted, they're not the greatest family around (meaning "fun to be around, likeable") but neither are the Starks. It's very interesting to see how views can change; when I first read the books years back, I thought that Jaime was pure evil - which gradually changed when I read his POVs, he became my favourite character after that. This time around, I know what's going to happen to him and it annoys the hell out of me that Ned Stark condemns Jaime just because he actually saved the bloody city by breaking his vow. I think Ned never really asked Jaime why he killed Aerys. Ned was like "Oh, he killed the king - bloody oathbreaker, that's so not honorable. He's evil." I didn't realize that the first time around. I do now and despise the Starks for their self-righteousness but that's another story. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cladinator Posted November 30, 2014 Share Posted November 30, 2014 You might be surprised how much info you'll get when listening to the books. Check out Audible.Roy Dotrice does an amazing job narrating. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Manderly's Rat Cook Posted December 6, 2014 Share Posted December 6, 2014 Pick a particular subject to focus on. As you can see in the threads of this board, most re-read projects focus on one or two things in particular. For instance you can focus on moonlight/ the moon. That way your noted will be more focused, and you can dive deeper into one subject. For instance if the moon is mentioned in an interesting manner, you can do a search for similar descriptions in mythology for example. If you want to discuss your notes of the re-read on this forum, and make a re-read thread, you can ask people to join you. A lot of reread threads are hoster by 2 or 3 people. You can divide the chapters, like person A makes the notes for the prologue, person B for chapter 1, person C for chapter 3, and person A for chapter 4 again. This way you can keep a nice pace, and discuss about 3 chapters a week. You can make a schedule, to keep the project organised and clear. Ask a more experienced re-reader to help you with the thread. If you do a re-read just for yourself, you have more freedom of course, and you can be less focused on one thing. If I don't pick a subject to focus on I personally have the same problem you have, so when I just re-read for the sake of re-reading it again I don't make notes. I just read it more carefully, and if afterwards google the hell out of the things that fascinate me. You could also write down the page numbers of interesting things with one keyword, and organize them in columns for different categories. I think in most kindles, you can also do a search, so if you finish a book and you've written down keywords and categories, you can do a search, and see whenever your keyword of choice comes up and see if you can make new connections. Is this helpful? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Manderly's Rat Cook Posted December 6, 2014 Share Posted December 6, 2014 Make sure you have a plan. Think about what you want to re-read, and what you want to get out of it, and focus on that. You can't make notes about everything, it's just too much. You can also join one or two re-read threads that have just started (not one with already 19 pages in the thread, for it'll be impossible to catch up), and make your notes according to the subject their re-read is focussing on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Malkorion Posted December 6, 2014 Author Share Posted December 6, 2014 Yes, thanks for the reply. I'd like to get as much as possible out of my re-read, but yes, there are simply too many things I could take notes of. History, characters, cursing, the Others, Valyrian weapons, major houses, lesser houses, myths of the world, Old Nan's tales, Targaryens, the Faceless Men, etc. Maybe instead of going chronologically, I'll do character arcs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Manderly's Rat Cook Posted December 6, 2014 Share Posted December 6, 2014 Yeah you probably need multiple re-reads ;) I personally get a lot more from a re-read when I focus on one or 2 things though, because I miss a lot of interesting details if I focus on too many things at a time and lose overview. Good luck :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lady Meliora Posted December 7, 2014 Share Posted December 7, 2014 Great advice here. Once the year winds down, I'll probably do a proper re-read. Right now, I'm reading GoT aloud to my husband, as he's never read them. It's interesting to see what he picks up on and the questions he has, since I have foreknowledge he doesn't. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Manderly's Rat Cook Posted December 7, 2014 Share Posted December 7, 2014 Great advice here. Once the year winds down, I'll probably do a proper re-read. Right now, I'm reading GoT aloud to my husband, as he's never read them. It's interesting to see what he picks up on and the questions he has, since I have foreknowledge he doesn't. That's a wonderful idea as well... Maybe I'll read them to my boyfriend... We like reading to each other and I recently read Sophie's World to him in German (he's German, and I'm Dutch), and we're looking for a new reading project... Not sure if he'll be able to thoroughly understand the books in English though... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheNiggardlyBastard Posted December 7, 2014 Share Posted December 7, 2014 It's cool to read one POV all the way through. For example I read only Tyrion's chapters for alll 5 books. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beanis Buttershield Posted December 24, 2014 Share Posted December 24, 2014 You might be surprised how much info you'll get when listening to the books. Check out Audible. Roy Dotrice does an amazing job narrating. I'll try this, there's something about seeing the words that helps me to recognize patterns and analyze the story but I've never tried just sitting back and letting someone narrate it. Thanks! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Lannister Posted December 30, 2014 Share Posted December 30, 2014 This post might be somewhat out of place but I didn't want to start a whole new topic for it. I've popped in here from time to time to glance around, but never have joined in. I'm still relatively new to the ASoIaF experience having only read through the first time early this year. I'm in the middle of my 3rd chronological reread and just finished Storm. I'm having a hard time getting into Feast for any lengthy period of time, but for me that's kinda of the low point of the series. To the point the re-read threads here intrigue me, more to the point the in depth analysis and discussions that follow. Though I suppose with my sense of order, it never occurred to me to read a single character's POVs out of order with the rest of the book. Much less jump in the middle of an existing reread. Are there any plans to be starting a new reread at some point early this year? I would like to jump in on one at the beginning at some point! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LordStoneheart Posted December 30, 2014 Share Posted December 30, 2014 Anyone can start a project, but once projects are started I'm guessing for the most part they're invitation only (as in, the people doing the specific chapter analyses. You can comment on any project all you want as long as you're not being a troll or harassing.) Simply put: I copied the format that Bumps, Lum, and Rag used for their reread project with some influence from the Dany Re-Read, and Mladen's Davos reread. I asked around for suggestions on who to choose as my partners and found people who were willing to do it. I made a loose schedule, and rolled from there. For specific chapter organization, I start by just plain reading the chapter. Then I read it again and make highlights all over the place (I have a kindle so I try to color code these. Example, all references to water in Catelyn's chapters I highlight in blue.) Then I look at the chapter's before and after, to see if it might have any bearing on what's going on.Then I type it all up with both confidence and doubting myself. :) I think the first step is deciding what your reread project will focus on. Tor.com has a good example of general chapter-by-chapter rereads, and the ones I mentioned are good examples of character-based projects. You can even do concepts like romance, the direwolves, or magic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AKladybird Posted January 6, 2015 Share Posted January 6, 2015 I'm almost finished with my 1st re-read. The last two books I'm doing the "Feast-Dance" read as listed on Boiled Leather.It really made the re-read more enjoyable and things connect a lot better.http://boiledleather.com/post/24543217702/a-proposed-a-feast-for-crows-a-dance-with-dragonsI like reading on my kindle as I can highlight and make notes on things I want to remember. It easy to search for words/phrases also when you want to go back to see connections with what you are reading now. I love the kindle app on my phone so I can pick up where i left off if I don't have the kindle handy (like on break at work). I listen to the audio version in the car or when I'm cleaning so I can get things done. Otherwise I'm stuck on the couch all day reading haha. So many options these days compared to when I was a kid.Fingers X'd for WOW in 2015! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Malkorion Posted January 13, 2015 Author Share Posted January 13, 2015 I am 83% into AGOT now, and I must say, this re-read is very taxing on me, because I have to sit at my table to type notes on my computer. Reading like this feels like a chore, but I simply have to do it like this because I would forget important details. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lady Meliora Posted January 15, 2015 Share Posted January 15, 2015 I might suggest getting a "re-reading copy" and using colored highlighters or some other marking method to note key passages, then you can sit down with the marked book and hammer it all out at once. That's how I read books for grad school papers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Malkorion Posted January 15, 2015 Author Share Posted January 15, 2015 I might suggest getting a "re-reading copy" and using colored highlighters or some other marking method to note key passages, then you can sit down with the marked book and hammer it all out at once. That's how I read books for grad school papers. I am reading it on my Kindle, so that's out of the question. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lady Meliora Posted January 16, 2015 Share Posted January 16, 2015 I am reading it on my Kindle, so that's out of the question. Understandable. I don't have a Kindle, so I don't know the answer to this--can you highlight and copy/paste from the Kindle App for computers? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Malkorion Posted January 16, 2015 Author Share Posted January 16, 2015 Understandable. I don't have a Kindle, so I don't know the answer to this--can you highlight and copy/paste from the Kindle App for computers? When I highlight something, the Kindle puts it into a file called 'my clippings', which is basically a text file. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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