Best literature from female and/or african american authors?

[Darth Richard II]

Kim Stanly Robinson and Tracy Hickman

Get out of my brain.

[Darth Richard II]

I don't know. I rather doubt that this affects the interest of his novels should this prove to be true.

Well I generally prefer not to give my financial support to child molesters, but I think we have other topics about that.

[Disputatious]

Kim Stanley Robinson is a white guy actually.

http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kim_Stanley_Robinson

He is a fine sci-fi author, however.

[Darth Richard II]

Tracy Hickman is also a white dude.

[Disputatious]

Well I generally prefer not to give my financial support to child molesters, but I think we have other topics about that.

What is your evidence that he has molested even one child, boy or girl?

[Eponine]

Why do you want to read authors of marginalized groups besides their marginalization? The thread title just strikes me as seeing two different (albeit overlapping) groups as basically interchangeable.

[Darth Richard II]

What is your evidence that he has molested even one child, boy or girl?

1. Hyperbole

2. http://shetterly.blogspot.com/2014/07/a-conversation-with-samuel-r-delany.html?m=1

[Myshkin]

1. Hyperbole

2. http://shetterly.blogspot.com/2014/07/a-conversation-with-samuel-r-delany.html?m=1

I'm not sure you can accuse someone of molesting children then just hand wave it away as hyperbole. Stick to what he's actually said/done, no need to make shit up.

[Darth Richard II]

Sure I can!

[wolverine]

Stephenie Meyer.

[Darth Richard II]

Stephenie Meyer.

Ha

[Wee baby Shamus]

What type of books do you read?

If you like legal/murder/mysteries I would suggest Lisa Scottoline.

If you like Supernatural books I would suggest Kim Harrison and Kelly Armstrong.

[DanteGabriel]

Also the name of the author escapes me but The Sparrow is probably one of the best scifi books of the last decade or so, but man it is DEPRESSING.

That would be Mary Doria Russell, and it is a great book.

[Errant Bard]

I am wondering, is there a reason that the only proposed alternative to the white man author was african-american women authors?

I am not sure that it always implies significant differences in the culture backing the work, or at least that foreign authors, male or female, could not offer a wider variety than keeping to american authors from the one major minority (heh) would, if that makes sense. What is the goal of the exercise?

[Wee baby Shamus]

I am wondering, is there a reason that the only proposed alternative to the white man author was african-american women authors?

I am not sure that it always implies significant differences in the culture backing the work, or at least that foreign authors, male or female, could not offer a wider variety than keeping to american authors from the one major minority (heh) would, if that makes sense. What is the goal of the exercise?

There isn't only one alternative and the OP was pretty clear on that.

[Errant Bard]

There isn't only one alternative and the OP was pretty clear on that.

That is an interesting interpretation of "They don't have to all be black and female. Some can be female. Some can be just black." and that is totally missing the point of my question, but thank you for your input.

[Wee baby Shamus]

I'm assuming that the OP wants to broaden the literature he reads.

[Happy Ent]

C’mon, Errant Bard. The phrase “African American” is an euphemism for “with a significant part of their recent ancestry in Sub-Saharan Africa and culturally identifying with this ethnicity”. Choosing the phrase “African American” (over many other available phrases, such as African, Negro, Coloured, Urban, or Black) signals a fidelity to progressive values. By an artefact of language, such an expression that also encompasses individuals that happen to be, say, French is currently not available to the American audience.

The semantics in the OP are clear, and so is the social signalling desired by choice of terminology.

You may, of course, be just deriving some perverse satisfaction from pointing out the in-built inconsistency between ostensible inclusiveness of American progressive values and the implicit cultural oppressiveness of language policy, a perverse hobby that I myself am prone to. But it’s really for another thread.

[Errant Bard]

Well, I am noting that the OP actually both uses "black" and "african-american" indeed, but from his post it's not actually clear to me that he actually considered authors that are not american or indeed, neither black nor white, and I wondered why... if that was an oversight, a product of culture in america making african-americans the go-to minority, that automatically conjures others, or overshadows them, or a conscious decision to limit the diversity of his bookshelves to black and white and american.

I also was interested in a reason why one wanted to read books from african-american authors specifically (at the exclusion of other social groups/ethnicity), ans it seemed too specific to easily conclude from this that it was merely a request for culturally different books. Also what he thought the colour of the skin of the author would change if the author partook in the exact same culture as the white guys, optionally.

It was just questions I had, I am interested in what comes before the choice -the roots of the question-, nothing malicious, but sorry for this interruption.

[Larry of the Lawn]

C’mon, Errant Bard. The phrase “African American” is an euphemism for “with a significant part of their recent ancestry in Sub-Saharan Africa and culturally identifying with this ethnicity”. Choosing the phrase “African American” (over many other available phrases, such as African, Negro, Coloured, Urban, or Black) signals a fidelity to progressive values. By an artefact of language, such an expression that also encompasses individuals that happen to be, say, French is currently not available to the American audience.

The semantics in the OP are clear, and so is the social signalling desired by choice of terminology.

You may, of course, be just deriving some perverse satisfaction from pointing out the in-built inconsistency between ostensible inclusiveness of American progressive values and the implicit cultural oppressiveness of language policy, a perverse hobby that I myself am prone to. But it’s really for another thread.

I'd say that 'black' is probably the term favored by progressives over 'African American' in the US, but I could be wrong. African American seems kind of outdated. Check out the US politics thread, and you'll see that most of those espousing progressive ideals use 'black' more often, where as conservatives tend to use 'African American'.