Michael Brown shooting six

[Summah]

Hopefully this will proceed with less racism, race baiting and concern trolling than the last thread.

Given everything I've said and argued, TPTWP, why do you think quotations about the beliefs of the very biased prosecutor about witnesses will be credible to me? The physical evidence really can support both sides, however since the prosecutor chooses to interpret the physical evidence to support Wilson makes it even more clear how biased the prosecutor is.

[Manhole Eunuchsbane]

The physical evidence really can support both sides, however since the prosecutor chooses to interpret the physical evidence to support Wilson makes it even more clear how biased the prosecutor is.

It shows how chickenshit and unprincipled the prosecutor is. If you don't want to try the case, don't try the fucking case! This Grand Jury was a gutless dodge. He sounded like a defense attorney in his summation last night.

[theprincethatwasntpromised]

Hopefully this will proceed with less racism, race baiting and concern trolling than the last thread.

Given everything I've said and argued, TPTWP, why do you think quotations about the beliefs of the very biased prosecutor about witnesses will be credible to me? The physical evidence really can support both sides, however since the prosecutor chooses to interpret the physical evidence to support Wilson makes it even more clear how biased the prosecutor is.

That's the thing, the physical evidence doesn't support both sides. The damage to the door and mirror correlate with the testimony that Brown ran into the SUV door pushing it closed on Wilson. The autopsy shows that brown was not shot in the back and in fact was facing Wilson. The blood trail shows Brown moved toward Wilson. There is no way the evidence could go the other way. Hence the decision by the jurors, not the prosecutor. That's the difference your creating these scenarios in your head, but the jurors heard facts and evidence. The other bs was thrown out.

[theprincethatwasntpromised]

And so it begins... again

[ThinkerX]

Again, from my experience actually sitting on a grand jury, it is very rare for a grand jury to decide there is not enough evidence to move a case to trial. When a grand jury does not vote to move a case forward - at least in my experience - it is because the prosecution provided woefully inadequate evidence.

To me, based on experience, something stinks here. Either there was severe juror bias - which would normally see the jurors removed, or the prosecution went out of their way to not make a case.

[Manhole Eunuchsbane]

To me, based on experience, something stinks here. Either there was severe juror bias - which would normally see the jurors removed, or the prosecution went out of their way to not make a case.

This isn't the first time McCulloch has pulled this...

http://www.dailykos.com/story/2014/11/25/1347385/-McCulloch-s-Prosecuting-Record-0-5

[Kyrion]

Witness 10, the only withness that agrees with Wilson that Brown charged him, was 100 yards away according to his eyewitness account 2 days after. But in the Grand Jury Testimony,he said he was 50-75 yards away, Thats a pretty significant discrepancy, considering the witness that agree with Johnson's account were as little as 20 yards away.

[karaddin]

Witness 10, the only withness that agrees with Wilson that Brown charged him, was 100 yards away according to his eyewitness account 2 days after. But in the Grand Jury Testimony,he said he was 50-75 yards away, Thats a pretty significant discrepancy, considering the witness that agree with Johnson's account were as little as 20 yards away.

But the prosecutor deemed them less reliable, and he clearly didn't have an agenda! /eyeroll

[Summah]

Again it's not conclusive, TPTWP, that final piece of evidence you mention, yes the physical evidence Brown was moving towards Wilson, but we don't know how or why, it could have been charging, though I find that difficult to imagine because he was most likely shot several times by then, it could have been in surrender, it could have been injured staggering. What is not clear from Wilson's testimony is how Brown ended up almost 150 ft from the police car, but that goes back to an article linked in the last thread: that Wilson's story is literally unbelievable.

[Wee baby Shamus]

Hopefully this will proceed with less racism, race baiting and concern trolling than the last thread.

Given everything I've said and argued, TPTWP, why do you think quotations about the beliefs of the very biased prosecutor about witnesses will be credible to me? The physical evidence really can support both sides, however since the prosecutor chooses to interpret the physical evidence to support Wilson makes it even more clear how biased the prosecutor is.

Seriously???

You start the new thread with that sentence and then you call out one of the three people accused of all things stated in that sentence at the end of the last thread.

smh

You also claim that the prosecutor chose to interpret the physical evidence to support Wilson when in fact he gave the Grand Jury ALL of the evidence for them to interpret if Wilson should be charged with a crime.

Again. smh

[Crazydog7]

But the prosecutor deemed them less reliable, and he clearly didn't have an agenda! /eyeroll

What I don't get is how a guy whos father was a cop shot in the line of duty by a black man was allowed anywhere near this situation?

[Wee baby Shamus]

What I don't get is how a guy whos father was a cop shot in the line of duty by a black man was allowed anywhere near this situation?

I see someone's racism meter rising!!!

[TrueMetis]

What I don't get is how a guy whos father was a cop shot in the line of duty by a black man was allowed anywhere near this situation?

I'm more concerned with his association with an organization raising money for Wilson.

[Manhole Eunuchsbane]

I see someone's racism meter rising!!!

Yes, the prosecutor should've checked himself, and recused himself from the situation. Good observation, creepo.

[Wee baby Shamus]

I wasn't referring to the prosecutor.

[Relic]

The previous thread had one positive outcome as my ignore list grew by four names. Now I just wish you guys didn't quote these nitwits in your futile responses.

I wish I was in the states this year so I could join a protest taking place during Black Friday. While I think riots play right into the hands of the powers that be, a massive boycott of spending this holiday season might make more of an impact.

[Kyrion]

What I don't get is how a guy whos father was a cop shot in the line of duty by a black man was allowed anywhere near this situation?

Wasnt there some confrontation in the beginning with the Governor and the District Attorney about the latter being excused from the case? Seems they didn't want to seem weak on crime or something and didn't want to excuse the DA.

I heard that the FBI can fire all of the DA in ferguson and start over if they think a miscarriage of justice was had. I say there is clear evidence at least that the DA had no interest in prosecuting this case and should be fired. But i doubt Holder and Obama are that bold.

[Stubby]

Was the prosecutor in this case an elected DA?

[Wee baby Shamus]

Apparently there are a few of close minded people here who don't value free speech on a public forum. Oh well.

In other news, the New York times has supposedly published the current address of Wilson and his bride.

[ThinkerX]

Ok...apart from myself, how many people in this thread have actually sat on a grand jury?

The one I was in, the prosecutor would bring in witnesses - sometimes victims. We got to listen to these people and cops. We could ask questions - but the prosecutor would jump all over anybody asking questions he deemed irrelevant - and the definition of 'relevant' was pretty dang narrow. More than once, we had to get creative just to ask some fairly basic questions of these people, the sort of questions you'd ask without a thought in a non judicial setting.