Magnar of Skagos Posted November 27, 2014 Share Posted November 27, 2014 Suppose that Daenerys gave birth to a healthy boy Rhaego, and with the help of her Khalasar, actually managed to conquer Westeros and install her family as its rulers... what house would Rhaego belong to? What do you think the immediate response would be from the population, as well as the other noble houses? etc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leonardo Posted November 27, 2014 Share Posted November 27, 2014 Targaryen. The dothraki don't seem to care enough about that kind of thing. Ideally Rhaego is the perfect bridge between the two cultures.I mean Drogo doesn't really have a house while Rhaego is Targaryen through the female line, so for political reasons they claim he is Rhaego Targaryen Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JonCon's Red Beard Posted November 27, 2014 Share Posted November 27, 2014 House Targaryen Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Lannister Posted November 27, 2014 Share Posted November 27, 2014 I'm not sure what you're asking. If you're asking which Westeros House he'd identify with, how could it be anything other than Targaryen? Or are you asking if Rhaego would want to rule Westeros as a Targaryen or as a Dothraki? The answer on that one would be less than clear, but I think it would be like the Mongols conquering territories, then being culturally assimilated by those they conquered. By all accounts something similar happened to the original Targaryens. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Magnar of Skagos Posted November 27, 2014 Author Share Posted November 27, 2014 I'm not sure what you're asking. If you're asking which Westeros House he'd identify with, how could it be anything other than Targaryen? Or are you asking if Rhaego would want to rule Westeros as a Targaryen or as a Dothraki? The answer on that one would be less than clear, but I think it would be like the Mongols conquering territories, then being culturally assimilated by those they conquered. By all accounts something similar happened to the original Targaryens. Aye, I'm just curious as to how Westeros would see him, due to their naming conventions. Rhaego Drogo does not roll off the tongue very well haha. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Acnologia Targaryen Posted November 27, 2014 Share Posted November 27, 2014 Most of the westerosi would think him a barbarian look at how they say about the wildling, northerns, iron born and the dornish. I can only imagine how they would treat him being a dothraki who don't have a stellar rep in the seven kingdoms. Still being a Targ would trump all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Isobel Harper Posted November 27, 2014 Share Posted November 27, 2014 Suppose that Daenerys gave birth to a healthy boy Rhaego, and with the help of her Khalasar, actually managed to conquer Westeros and install her family as its rulers... what house would Rhaego belong to? What do you think the immediate response would be from the population, as well as the other noble houses? etc. Aye, I'm just curious as to how Westeros would see him, due to their naming conventions. Rhaego Drogo does not roll off the tongue very well haha. If not "Targaryen," I would assume "Rhaego (son of Drogo in Dothraki)" or Rhaego (of/from Drogo)." Rhaego Drogari? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Doe Posted November 27, 2014 Share Posted November 27, 2014 Instead of boring dany- hypocrite chapters we could have Genghis Khan 2.0 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Merlmaid Posted November 27, 2014 Share Posted November 27, 2014 I'm just grateful for that vision we get of him because otherwise the question of which hair/eye colour he would have had would have driven me crazy. ^_^ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Faydra Posted November 27, 2014 Share Posted November 27, 2014 Suppose that Daenerys gave birth to a healthy boy Rhaego, and with the help of her Khalasar, actually managed to conquer Westeros and install her family as its rulers... what house would Rhaego belong to? What do you think the immediate response would be from the population, as well as the other noble houses? etc. Presuming that Drogo would have managed to put his heir on the IT, then no one would argue with him about having a dothraki name instead of Targaryen. But that's more of an impossibility rather than a presumption. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kyll.Ing. Posted November 27, 2014 Share Posted November 27, 2014 If Rhageo lived, Daenerys would not have had dragons. Instead, she would probably have had to spend a couple of years nursing her baby, possibly having more children, or otherwise be delayed from action. And while Drogo's khalasar was big, he would have problems conquering the Seven Kingdoms. Shipping in the army would pose one problem, and using cavalry exclusively wouldn't work as well in the comparably rough Westerosi terrain as it would on the steppes of Essos. Taking fortresses would be another problem, as the Dothraki don't seem to be very good at siegecraft. He'd never get past the Bloody Gate, for starters. Another, perhaps bigger problem, would be that while Daenerys were busy nursing babies, Varys' plot with Aegon would sail forth unhindered. He'd probably have got a pretty solid foothold in Westeros by the time Daenerys and Drogo were ready to invade. I'm not sure if Dany would be as keen on invading Westeros with her nephew on the throne, so she'd probably stay content living the Dothraki life in Essos instead. Rhaego would still have been a great khal when he grew up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TimJames Posted November 28, 2014 Share Posted November 28, 2014 The only way anyone in the khalasar would support Rhaego Targarian's claim to the Iron Throne is if Drogo is alive. Assuming this, they could probably unite enough of the Dothraki to launch a repeat of the Century of Blood. Assuming he doesn't burn them all to the ground, Khal Drogo will end up conquering all of the free cities (or at least the ones on the Western Coast of Essos). Next his hoard will have to build ships, land them at some point in Westros, and begin invading. The Dothraki have no navel history, but they could still coerce shipwrights from the free cities to handle that (again, assuming Drogo doesn't burn them to the ground).Next is the actual landing. Unless the land in the Summer Time, The North is too cold. The Vale is too mountainous, as is Dorne. It is possible that Dorne could be a useful ally and therefore provide a safe landing from which Drogo could have a base of operations. If not, than his best bet is to land in either The North (during summer time) or Kings Landing itself (which is risky). Assuming they get a landing, they still have their work cut out for them. Any conflict which existed between the kingdoms would be forgotten the moment Dothraki boots touch down on Westrosi soil. Sieging could be accomplished by starving the foe out or by interrogating people they find so as to learn siege tactics. After the war, it is a crapshoot as to whether Drogo would place Rhaego on the iron throne or simply burn Westros to the Ground and return to the Dothraki Sea. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Idler21 Posted January 15, 2015 Share Posted January 15, 2015 Rhaego did live, but in an alternate universe, at Middle Earth, as a hobbit, named Frodo, son of Drogo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baelor Blacktyde Posted January 15, 2015 Share Posted January 15, 2015 The Dothraki have no navel history I mus be missing something about the biology of the Dothraki people. Back to the "World of Ice and Fire"! Is it explained in there? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Viserys Targaryen IV Posted January 15, 2015 Share Posted January 15, 2015 If Rhageo lived, Daenerys would not have had dragons. Instead, she would probably have had to spend a couple of years nursing her baby, possibly having more children, or otherwise be delayed from action. And while Drogo's khalasar was big, he would have problems conquering the Seven Kingdoms. Shipping in the army would pose one problem, and using cavalry exclusively wouldn't work as well in the comparably rough Westerosi terrain as it would on the steppes of Essos. Taking fortresses would be another problem, as the Dothraki don't seem to be very good at siegecraft. He'd never get past the Bloody Gate, for starters. Another, perhaps bigger problem, would be that while Daenerys were busy nursing babies, Varys' plot with Aegon would sail forth unhindered. He'd probably have got a pretty solid foothold in Westeros by the time Daenerys and Drogo were ready to invade. I'm not sure if Dany would be as keen on invading Westeros with her nephew on the throne, so she'd probably stay content living the Dothraki life in Essos instead. Rhaego would still have been a great khal when he grew up. This, Aegon would sit on the Iron Throne and may or may not decide to recognize his barbarian Aunt and Nephew. As the Stallion that mounts the World, he would see it as his duty to at least start to conquer Essos. If they ever got as far as Westeros? Maybe if Aegon has a daughter..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
markg171 Posted January 15, 2015 Share Posted January 15, 2015 If Rhageo lived, Daenerys would not have had dragons. Instead, she would probably have had to spend a couple of years nursing her baby, possibly having more children, or otherwise be delayed from action. And while Drogo's khalasar was big, he would have problems conquering the Seven Kingdoms. Shipping in the army would pose one problem, and using cavalry exclusively wouldn't work as well in the comparably rough Westerosi terrain as it would on the steppes of Essos. Taking fortresses would be another problem, as the Dothraki don't seem to be very good at siegecraft. He'd never get past the Bloody Gate, for starters. Another, perhaps bigger problem, would be that while Daenerys were busy nursing babies, Varys' plot with Aegon would sail forth unhindered. He'd probably have got a pretty solid foothold in Westeros by the time Daenerys and Drogo were ready to invade. I'm not sure if Dany would be as keen on invading Westeros with her nephew on the throne, so she'd probably stay content living the Dothraki life in Essos instead. Rhaego would still have been a great khal when he grew up. You mean exactly like what Dany's story has been lol? She's literally just been spending the last couple of years delayed from action. And while it's from the show and not the books, Robert explains the Dothraki problem pretty well. They don't need to take the castles. The lords can't ride out and face 40,000 horses in open combat as that's suicide, but if the Dothraki are left to rape and plunder as they will, the smallfolk will turn on their lords as they're doing nothing to protect them. The lords can't sit out in their castles without losing the support of their people, and they can't meet the Dothraki in combat without being defeated. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blazfemur Posted January 15, 2015 Share Posted January 15, 2015 Suppose that Daenerys gave birth to a healthy boy Rhaego, and with the help of her Khalasar, actually managed to conquer Westeros and install her family as its rulers... what house would Rhaego belong to? What do you think the immediate response would be from the population, as well as the other noble houses? etc. rhaego would be a targaryen as daenerys would attempt to conquer westeros in her name. however, she wouldnt have dragons. rhaego's life hatched those dragons. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SeanF Posted January 15, 2015 Share Posted January 15, 2015 You mean exactly like what Dany's story has been lol? She's literally just been spending the last couple of years delayed from action. And while it's from the show and not the books, Robert explains the Dothraki problem pretty well. They don't need to take the castles. The lords can't ride out and face 40,000 horses in open combat as that's suicide, but if the Dothraki are left to rape and plunder as they will, the smallfolk will turn on their lords as they're doing nothing to protect them. The lords can't sit out in their castles without losing the support of their people, and they can't meet the Dothraki in combat without being defeated.Robert's concern was that the Lords would switch sides if 40,000 Dothraki landed and he did nothing. As against that, a scorched earth strategy might be highly effective against Dothraki. A couple of hundred thousand horses need a huge amount of food. And TWOIAF shows Dothraki are dangerous, but not invincible. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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