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So I just finished my first run-through of the game. I think I'm in over my head here. Already I had the squire sent to the wall, the girl in KL pissed off Margary, and Ethan got stabbed in the neck by Ramsay Snow in his own great hall. I'm pretty bad at this apparently LOL.



How's your first game going?


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Hopefully the next episode will have a few choices that actually change the outcome of events in a significant fashion. Or maybe we can revisit some of the characters we've met before and they can influence things. like the squire from the red wedding, or the handmaiden in KL.


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Well since the new Lady of House Forrester, Mira, is in Kings Landing, I wonder what happens then, does Elissa take over as acting lady, or as regent for acting Lady Talia. We've had 3 of the 13 die already... Damn...



Oh, and screw Lord Whitehill.



And I minor geography error, the Kings Road goes nohere near Forrester lands haha. And the Whitehills and Forresters are a little far away to be rivals, but I suppose Dayne and Oakheart have little love for each other either.


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One thing that I thought was rather silly was the fact that when you choose to meet Bolton at the gates, you end up letting him in anyway! You should have been able to make him leave and come back to siege you, at which point that whole sub-plot regarding the food storage would come into play.


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Choices in Telltale games are not as dynamic as many of their rabid lovers will tell you. The endings are nearly all identical tweaks. So, no, have no fear, you aren't bad at the game...unless you were messing up the quick time events or something >_>


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Also I have to add, while I have no problem with contrivances, having a Northern girl from what is clearly a minor noble house be handmaiden to Marge Tyrell is simply...baffling, and having Cersei and...Tyrion...deal with potentially High Treason with Tywin around as Hand of the King was a minor bizarre detail just so we could hear the dialogue Tyrion uses with Sansa in Season 2 near verbatim. And why is Gared a pig farmers son, but also from nobility. I assumed they owned some pig farms on their land and had peasants working for them, but it would appear his dad is actually a straight up pig farmer. Weird.



Also can't wait to see how they shoehorn this raving nutter Asher into Dany's storyline.



Was still a fun little game.


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Lady Elissa likely came from the Reach, which explains why Mira'd be a handmaiden. And this matter would be beneath Tywin - interrogating a daughter of a mastery house's bannerman doesn't rate Tywin's attention.



Question: did anyone get information about the North grove from either the Maester, Lady Elissa, or Duncan?


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North grove remained secret to me.



Branfield was likely a Reach house, close to Tyrell maybe, and was lost at the Trident, so Elissa knew Mace or something.



Gared isn't nobility. Nor Duncan. Duncan is a pig farmers who befriended Gregor and became his castellan eventually, and then used his influence to get Gared a job.


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North grove remained secret to me.

Branfield was likely a Reach house, close to Tyrell maybe, and was lost at the Trident, so Elissa knew Mace or something.

Gared isn't nobility. Nor Duncan. Duncan is a pig farmers who befriended Gregor and became his castellan eventually, and then used his influence to get Gared a job.

As squire to a Lord? Man, Gendry would be jealous as hell!

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Is it just me or is Gared a terrible fighter. I mean he fights better with a pitchfork then a sword

He was rocking with the shield and was "Northern knighted" as it were, so ya, was a bit surprised he couldn't lift a 15 pound piece of steel.

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He was rocking with the shield and was "Northern knighted" as it were, so ya, was a bit surprised he couldn't lift a 15 pound piece of steel.

Was the Forrester sword not a Valayrian Steel sword?If so it would not even weigh 15 pounds yet Gared cant even parry with it.Yet he countered a sword strike with a pitchfork

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He was rocking with the shield and was "Northern knighted" as it were, so ya, was a bit surprised he couldn't lift a 15 pound piece of steel.

He's lucky that those three soldiers were doing the typical "one attacks while the other two dance around" routine

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I'm pretty sure the Forrester sword is just a well-made sword. And to be fair to Gared, it's doubtful he's had much training with two-handed swords. He's much more likely to have been taught to fight with polearms and shield + one-handed weapon. And he'd apparently just walked from the Twins to the north end of the Wolfswood with nothing but the clothes on his back, so he may not have been in great shape.



Mira being a handmaiden to Margaery is a bit out there, but not terribly farfetched. Someone in that sort of position could be of considerably lower rank than the person they served, and Lady Forrester may have friends in the Reach she was hoping would set up her daughter with a good marriage. However, I'm still waiting to see how it's actually going to pay off rather than being an irrelevant sideshow to the action in the North.



House Forrester's overall position seems to be a tad inconsistent. On one hand, they're essentially third-tier nobility (bannermen to bannerman of the Starks). On the other, we are repeatedly reminded that ironwood is highly coveted and they control pretty much the only supply, so you'd think they'd be relatively loaded. That appears to not be the case, as they can't even pay their household staff.


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I'm pretty sure the Forrester sword is just a well-made sword. And to be fair to Gared, it's doubtful he's had much training with two-handed swords. He's much more likely to have been taught to fight with polearms and shield + one-handed weapon. And he'd apparently just walked from the Twins to the north end of the Wolfswood with nothing but the clothes on his back, so he may not have been in great shape.

Mira being a handmaiden to Margaery is a bit out there, but not terribly farfetched. Someone in that sort of position could be of considerably lower rank than the person they served, and Lady Forrester may have friends in the Reach she was hoping would set up her daughter with a good marriage. However, I'm still waiting to see how it's actually going to pay off rather than being an irrelevant sideshow to the action in the North.

House Forrester's overall position seems to be a tad inconsistent. On one hand, they're essentially third-tier nobility (bannermen to bannerman of the Starks). On the other, we are repeatedly reminded that ironwood is highly coveted and they control pretty much the only supply, so you'd think they'd be relatively loaded. That appears to not be the case, as they can't even pay their household staff.

Yeah at your first two points!

As for the rank, it is weird... Unless they literally lost it all once the Boltons took over, but that doesn't seem the case with other lords. Stolen? Give away?

I suppose if wood is their only source of income since they likely have little land being 3rd their bannermen then they might be lacking. Other then that it's pig farmers lol

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