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This contains spoilers from aDwD and the upcoming fifth TV series, so be warned.

So we know that in the upcoming TV series Jaime Lannister will be heading to Dorne, which is of course different from the books when he goes to Riverun. So it got me to thinking that he might die in the next book and TV series, so bare with me, here we go.

I think that Jaime is going to go to Dorne and take over the role that Arys had in aDwD, think about it; Both are in the kings guard, it makes sense that Jaime would want to watch over Myrcella since she's his daughter, (even if he did take little interest in Joffreys wellbeing, that can be forgiven, it is Joffrey.) His relationship with Cersei took a massive blow, I think he's going to fall for Arianne and end up meeting Arys fate during aDwD (I can visualise Jaime charging into the fight, like the warrior he was, and being promptly cut down.)

We also know that GRRM has given up some of what happens during the next books, let's say that Brienne does lead Jaime to Stoneheart, who kills him. Well seen as Stoneheart has been confirmed not to appear in the show, what would be the point of sending him to Riverun? I don't know, it's something I've been mulling over the last few days.

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I believe that Jaime still has an important part to play. For one, I believe he's the Valanqar. For two, I think that he will do something to fill those pages in that book. So no, I don't think he dies so soon. I could see Brienne dying to save Jaime, though.

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That's a really good theory! I could see him fitting those roles very well. But it does make me wonder what his existence will mean in The Winds of Winter. Also, how has Lady Stoneheart been confirmed to have been cut from the show? Not saying you're wrong, but I'm curious what the source for that is? I still think GRRM has written an interesting story with Stoneheart and Jaime, and I hope it actually leads somewhere; I would end up feeling pretty blah if there was no point to having that conflict in the books. However, I did read one fan theory saying that Sansa will take over Stoneheart's role, and IMO that sounds pretty cool for the show, although leave me confused for her role in the books.


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I believe that Jaime still has an important part to play. For one, I believe he's the Valanqar. For two, I think that he will do something to fill those pages in that book. So no, I don't think he dies so soon. I could see Brienne dying to save Jaime, though.

I discarded Jamie as soon as I heard his "hands" as in plural.

That's a really good theory! I could see him fitting those roles very well. But it does make me wonder what his existence will mean in The Winds of Winter. Also, how has Lady Stoneheart been confirmed to have been cut from the show? Not saying you're wrong, but I'm curious what the source for that is? I still think GRRM has written an interesting story with Stoneheart and Jaime, and I hope it actually leads somewhere; I would end up feeling pretty blah if there was no point to having that conflict in the books. However, I did read one fan theory saying that Sansa will take over Stoneheart's role, and IMO that sounds pretty cool for the show, although leave me confused for her role in the books.

Thanks, Michelle confirmed that she wasn't coming back. http://www.telegraph.co.uk/culture/tvandradio/game-of-thrones/10928715/Game-of-Thrones-why-Lady-Stoneheart-was-killed.html

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I discarded Jamie as soon as I heard his "hands" as in plural.

...and his gold hand doesn't count now? And there's also the chain of the Hand, which Tyrion used to choke Shae to death using just one hand.

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...and his gold hand doesn't count now? And there's also the chain of the Hand, which Tyrion used to choke Shae to death using just one hand.

"The valonqar shall wrap his hands about your pale white throat and choke the life from you." It's the use of words that jars me, he couldn't really "wrap his hands" around her throat when one is made from metal.

Brienne has already saved Jaime.

She lured him away under the pretense of "saving Sansa from the Hound" Seen as the hound is dead, and Sansa was last in the vale, it seems a little fishy.

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"The valonqar shall wrap his hands about your pale white throat and choke the life from you." It's the use of words that jars me, he couldn't really "wrap his hands" around her throat when one is made from metal.

And there is a chain covered in hands that could be wrapped around her throat, choking her to death.

Just like Shae.

I can't think of it as a coincidence.

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And there is a chain covered in hands that could be wrapped around her throat, choking her to death.Just like Shae.I can't think of it as a coincidence.

It still doesn't point to Jaime imo, I think it's either Tommen or a wildcard, but of course it's just guesswork at this point.

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This contains spoilers from aDwD and the upcoming fifth TV series, so be warned.

So we know that in the upcoming TV series Jaime Lannister will be heading to Dorne, which is of course different from the books when he goes to Riverun. So it got me to thinking that he might die in the next book and TV series, so bare with me, here we go.

I think that Jaime is going to go to Dorne and take over the role that Arys had in aDwD, think about it; Both are in the kings guard, it makes sense that Jaime would want to watch over Myrcella since she's his daughter, (even if he did take little interest in Joffreys wellbeing, that can be forgiven, it is Joffrey.) His relationship with Cersei took a massive blow, I think he's going to fall for Arianne and end up meeting Arys fate during aDwD (I can visualise Jaime charging into the fight, like the warrior he was, and being promptly cut down.)

We also know that GRRM has given up some of what happens during the next books, let's say that Brienne does lead Jaime to Stoneheart, who kills him. Well seen as Stoneheart has been confirmed not to appear in the show, what would be the point of sending him to Riverun? I don't know, it's something I've been mulling over the last few days.

I may have missed it but has arianne been casted finally? I thought they were cutting her and quentyn.

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Well, things are not going good for Jaime in the books if they are sending him in a very different direction in the show.

Maybe they are sending him in a short lived direction, both in show and books.

In this case, the differences would be short lived in time, and not cause too many butterfly effects down the road (which is shorter, in the show).

The pleasant alternative would be much more things to do for Jaime, besides endlessly, good heartedly but not that efficently pacifying the Riverlands. But maybe given the slowing traveling speeds in Planteos there are no more chapters enough to get to King's Landing from Harrenhal, yet alone gettting to Dorne.

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I may have missed it but has arianne been casted finally? I thought they were cutting her and quentyn.

No news on that front yet, there were some leaked images a while ago of some people being torched by a Dragon but I can't remember if it was Quentyns final scene or the scene in the fighting pits. What I'm hoping for, and I know it might be a bit much, is that next season focuses on people like Quentyn, and Victarian and Euron. (Or it might just be me clinging onto the hope that Euron and Victarian still appear.)

Well, things are not going good for Jaime in the books if they are sending him in a very different direction in the show.

Maybe they are sending him in a short lived direction, both in show and books.

In this case, the differences would be short lived in time, and not cause too many butterfly effects down the road (which is shorter, in the show).

The pleasant alternative would be much more things to do for Jaime, besides endlessly, good heartedly but not that efficently pacifying the Riverlands. But maybe given the slowing traveling speeds in Planteos there are no more chapters enough to get to King's Landing from Harrenhal, yet alone gettting to Dorne.

I doubt we'll get much, if any, focus on Riverrun on the show. There's only so much they can do in ten episodes and it's not a particularly interesting arc, especially without Jaime.

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This is slightly OT but is there ever a mention of the chain of office (the linked golden hands) in aGoT? Ned had a silver pin and suddenly in succeeding books we have a chain. A slight retcon so that Tyrion could strangle Shae (in the show he bought her a heavy golden necklace) or did I miss something about Ned perhaps eschewing ostentatiousness?



As to the OP, I don't think he will suffer Arys Oakheart's fate. I vaguely remember a producer Q&A where they joked about Jaime strapping on his jet pack to get to both Dorne and the Riverlands. Book or show I see Jaime surviving past WoW although not necessarily through to the end. (aDoS, please let it end in 7 books!) He's my top candidate for the valonqar, whether he uses the Hand's chain or both his hands - the golden one can't really grip but it can assist in crushing a windpipe.


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Funny, I took it the other way.



Dramatically, It's hard for me to to imagine that Jaime and Brienne will never meet again in the show. So if he's going to Dorne, he's safe for the time being IMO. Now if Brienne is headed that way, I'll worry for them!



Concerning Jaime taking Arys 'role', it hard to imagine without Arianne. Without Arianne, Arys has no role in that part of the story!


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This is slightly OT but is there ever a mention of the chain of office (the linked golden hands) in aGoT? Ned had a silver pin and suddenly in succeeding books we have a chain. A slight retcon so that Tyrion could strangle Shae (in the show he bought her a heavy golden necklace) or did I miss something about Ned perhaps eschewing ostentatiousness?

As to the OP, I don't think he will suffer Arys Oakheart's fate. I vaguely remember a producer Q&A where they joked about Jaime strapping on his jet pack to get to both Dorne and the Riverlands. Book or show I see Jaime surviving past WoW although not necessarily through to the end. (aDoS, please let it end in 7 books!) He's my top candidate for the valonqar, whether he uses the Hand's chain or both his hands - the golden one can't really grip but it can assist in crushing a windpipe.

Oh I hope I'm wrong. Jaime is up there with my top five favourite characters in the books, I still think a lot of factors point in that direction though even if the producers are hiding certain things from us. (Which undoubtedly they are.)

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