baxus Posted November 12, 2013 Share Posted November 12, 2013 from the previous thread: A moose once bit my sister....so this time... it's personal! (in that deep movie-trailer voice) its called character development filler! :drunk:there, i fixed that for you ;) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
red snow Posted November 16, 2013 Share Posted November 16, 2013 Don't know if this was mentioned in the other thread but I feel really sorry for Ian Mckellan in this article - especially considering how much he loved being a part of LOTRs. Another curse of 3D and one where I think it would have almost justified abandoning if Mckellan had quit over it. With regards to the film - I'll be watching it as soon as I can get a ticket booked. However there's no great expectations this time around - I'm mentally prepared for it being overly long with childish humour but that's fine as long as there's still some action and epic-y-ness. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flinn Posted November 16, 2013 Share Posted November 16, 2013 Yep, Part 1 is stretched too much, part 2 will be stretched too much, and part 3 will be as well.At MOST I think it should have been 2 parts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Myrddin Posted November 16, 2013 Share Posted November 16, 2013 I bought the extended edition of part one, and while I haven't re-watched the movie yet, I have watched all the special features. They do cover Sir Ian's breakdown when he was forced to sit in a green room acting to nothing (while the other 14 guys were on the other side of the studio). You can see he was having a very hard time with it. Heartbreaking, really. But I think it was mainly the scenes in Bag's End that were so torturous. One benefit of watching the special features is now I feel like I know all 13 dwarves, not just Thorin, Kili, Fili, and Balin. And Bomobur. Seeing the actors work through their individual roles and the designers building the characters through costume and make-up was pretty cool. Granted, you shouldn't have to sit through 4 hours of special features to get the individuality of the characters, but I think my next viewing of the movie will be improved because of it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beathag Posted November 17, 2013 Share Posted November 17, 2013 I saw the first of the Hobbit trilogy. I do not intend to see the other two. I suffered through a trailer tonight. I am sure this has been hashed to death elsewhere on this board....Three movies to cover LOTR. And three movies to cover The Hobbit? Ridiculou$ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Karita Posted November 17, 2013 Share Posted November 17, 2013 I think the whole Hobbit would have been well fitted in one movie. What's the point in making the story longer than it is...?Would've been cool if everything had been the same as in the book, since it would not be a problem to fit it all in! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Isis Posted November 17, 2013 Share Posted November 17, 2013 Two films would have been reasonable so as not to rush the story and to allow inclusion of other material. Three is just greedy and unnecessary. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tears of Lys Posted November 17, 2013 Share Posted November 17, 2013 I actually enjoyed the first Hobbit film. I liked seeing the Dwarves in their glory when the Mountain was still theirs, mining their gems. I enjoyed seeing Gandalf again and Sméagol/Gollum. The "Riddles in the dark" scenes were well-played, I thought. I thought PJ **almost** redeemed the great insult to the Dwarf race by the character of Thorin Oakenshield (although, sometimes he was a bit too unrelentingly dour.) . In short, if you forget the book ever existed, you could enjoy this movie on some level. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stark Revenge Posted November 17, 2013 Share Posted November 17, 2013 Don't know if this was mentioned in the other thread but I feel really sorry for Ian Mckellan in this article - especially considering how much he loved being a part of LOTRs. Another curse of 3D and one where I think it would have almost justified abandoning if Mckellan had quit over it. With regards to the film - I'll be watching it as soon as I can get a ticket booked. However there's no great expectations this time around - I'm mentally prepared for it being overly long with childish humour but that's fine as long as there's still some action and epic-y-ness. Thats pretty heartwrenching as his acting preformance is one of my favorite things about these movies. I actually enjoyed the first Hobbit film. I liked seeing the Dwarves in their glory when the Mountain was still theirs, mining their gems. I enjoyed seeing Gandalf again and Sméagol/Gollum. The "Riddles in the dark" scenes were well-played, I thought. I thought PJ **almost** redeemed the great insult to the Dwarf race by the character of Thorin Oakenshield (although, sometimes he was a bit too unrelentingly dour.) . In short, if you forget the book ever existed, you could enjoy this movie on some level. Yeah Thorin did seem too dour. I know he had some misgivings about Bilbo in the book, but i feel as if PJ has magnified them a 100 fold. What did you link lead to? Its not working for me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
red snow Posted November 17, 2013 Share Posted November 17, 2013 This is horrible. I kind of wish I hadn't read it, because now when I see Gandalf in the next few films I'll just be thinking ''He's hating this...''. I'm more than happy for 3D to go out of the window if it meant Ian was happier. As much as I enjoy these films, I kind of wish they'd taken a more accurate approach to it. The stone giant scene from the first could have cut in half, time- and budget- wise and still been better It made me sad as well because he's such a nice guy and clearly loves the part. Thing is he's such a great actor you can't pick it up at all. I'll definitely be paying close attention during the scenes he shares with dwarves and hobbits in the next film and feel a little bad. I'll feel better when some elves join the team as then he'll at least have some company. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arataniello Posted November 17, 2013 Share Posted November 17, 2013 It made me sad as well because he's such a nice guy and clearly loves the part. Thing is he's such a great actor you can't pick it up at all. I'll definitely be paying close attention during the scenes he shares with dwarves and hobbits in the next film and feel a little bad. I'll feel better when some elves join the team as then he'll at least have some company. Although based on stuff we have seen so far, Gandalf will spend a lot of screen time with Radagast during the next movie. Potentially there is some time for him with the White Council/Elven forces, depending on whether the assault on Dol Guldur is in this one or not. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stannis Eats No Peaches Posted November 17, 2013 Share Posted November 17, 2013 Yes remember Gandalf doesn't accompany the dwarves into Mirkwood. He goes with them to the edge, before making off with Beorn's horse. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nictarion Posted November 17, 2013 Share Posted November 17, 2013 What's the point in making the story longer than it is...?$$$ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Anti-Targ Posted November 17, 2013 Share Posted November 17, 2013 Don't know if this was mentioned in the other thread but I feel really sorry for Ian Mckellan in this article - especially considering how much he loved being a part of LOTRs. Another curse of 3D and one where I think it would have almost justified abandoning if Mckellan had quit over it. With regards to the film - I'll be watching it as soon as I can get a ticket booked. However there's no great expectations this time around - I'm mentally prepared for it being overly long with childish humour but that's fine as long as there's still some action and epic-y-ness. Yet another reason to say boo to 3D. Sadly it seems to be here to stay. Though I think I read a report saying the 3D proportion of ticket sales for Thor the Dark world were substantially down compared to the other Avengers franchise movies. So perhaps 3D will fade back into obscurity in a few years. Hopefully Avatar 2 will be a flop and not resurrect this format. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tissa Posted November 18, 2013 Share Posted November 18, 2013 I re-watched The Lord of the rings extended editions 10x each, but I can barely get through the normal edition of hobbit 1( Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Talleyrand Posted November 18, 2013 Share Posted November 18, 2013 I'm hoping that the orcs at the battle of the five armies will be more guys in prosthetics like the Orcs in Moria in fellowship rather than the cgi bunch in Azogs band. For me the latter just don't have the same impact Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stark Revenge Posted November 18, 2013 Share Posted November 18, 2013 I'm hoping that the orcs at the battle of the five armies will be more guys in prosthetics like the Orcs in Moria in fellowship rather than the cgi bunch in Azogs band. For me the latter just don't have the same impact Was it just me or has the CGI in the hobbit felt a lot faker than it did in LotR? What gives? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beathag Posted November 18, 2013 Share Posted November 18, 2013 I think we have such great expectations of CGI now. And the Hobbit, which I loved all those years ago, is now boring to read. But not LotR. There is not enough story, so it is almost a cartoon of itself. The rollercoaster ride through the Gobllins cave? Every scene is so long we have time to really look at the CGI. And you are right, it is much more obvious. The only thing I can think of, is that there was so much squabbling and dropping of the ball on The Hobbit, PJ may be a bit sick of it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arataniello Posted November 18, 2013 Share Posted November 18, 2013 Was it just me or has the CGI in the hobbit felt a lot faker than it did in LotR? What gives? It could be a product of the filming at a higher frame rate? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guardian of the Lhazareen Posted November 18, 2013 Share Posted November 18, 2013 If they do it well then great I love me some middel earth. However they won't so BOOO Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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