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There's LOADS of speculation on this. Some believe he was only wounded, some think he's dead dead, some think he'll have a second life in ghost permanently or until his body is healed and some believe he'll be brought back by Mel. Personally, I lean towards seriously wounded/warging into ghost for a little while before coming back. Dead dead is off the table for me. :) And welcome! :cheers:


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Well, he got stabbed repeatedly in more than one place... I belive that, if he is still alive, his state is not the best and healing would be a very hard thing to archive. I do belive that maybe Mel would take part on this, as the only one that has knowledge of strong healing in Castle Black.



I doubt he's dead dead though.


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I doubt he is dead, he hasn't completed his purpose in the books. All the dead people have either completed their purpose or have died for the better of the book. Jon's purpose is to fight off the Others, and it wouldn't make sense for him to die.

I assume he is wounded and being tended (secretly) by Mel. Spells or not. He will probably warg into Ghost as his body is being healed. What is the point of being of a warg if you don't take advantage of it?

Also, who would be LC as Jon is either presumed dead or dead?

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tis but a flesh wound lol... im not sure what's going on with him but i know a lot of people think he's dead but will rise again. They assume Mel will raise him like Thoros did for Dondarrion, but the main difference being he'll warg into Ghost b4 he's called back so his mind wont be effected like Dondarrion and Lady Stoneheart


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It is a minor scratch.

Bowen Marsh: For the Watch.

[cuts Jons arm off]

Jon Snow: 'Tis but a scratch!
Bowen Marsh: A scratch? Your arm's off!
Jon Snow: No, it isn't!
Bowen Marsh: Well, what's that then?
[Looks down]

Jon Snow: I've had worse.
Bowen Marsh: You liar!
Jon Snow: Come on, you pansy!
[they fight again. Bowen cuts off Jon’s right arm]
Bowen Marsh: Victory is mine!
[kneels to pray]
Bowen Marsh: We thank thee, Seven, that in thy mercy -
[cut off by Jon kicking him]
Jon Snow: Come on, then.
Bowen Marsh: What?
Jon Snow: Have at you!
Bowen Marsh: You are indeed brave, Ser, but the fight is mine!
Jon Snow: Oh, had enough, eh?
Bowen Marsh: Look, you stupid bastard. You've got no arms left!

Jon Snow: Yes I have.
Bowen Marsh: Look! [points at the arms]
Jon Snow: It's just a flesh wound.

[they fight, Bowen cuts off Jon’s left leg]

Jon Snow: Right, I'll do you for that!
Bowen Marsh: You'll what?
Jon Snow: Come here!
Bowen Marsh: What are you gonna do, bleed on me?
Jon Snow: I'm invincible!
Bowen Marsh: ...You're a loony.

[bowen cuts off Jon’s right leg]

Jon Snow: All right, we'll call it a draw.
Bowen Marsh: [Preparing to leave] Come, Wick.
[bowen Marsh and Wick stroll off]
Jon Snow: [calling after Bowen] Oh, oh, I see! Running away, eh? You yellow bastards! Come back here and take what's coming to you! I'll bite your legs off!

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My guess is he will warg in Ghost till Mel heal his body . I hope Martin dont kill him before he revieal who are his parents .


THEORETICAL SPOILER - I thing if he has Targ blood , Mel wont let him die , due to her "obsession" with kings blood .


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My guess is he will warg in Ghost till Mel heal his body . I hope Martin dont kill him before he revieal who are his parents .

THEORETICAL SPOILER - I thing if he has Targ blood , Mel wont let him die , due to her "obsession" with kings blood .

Her obsession with Kings Blood is that burning it gives her power. So if anything, she'll burn whomever she knows has kings blood.

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Her obsession with Kings Blood is that burning it gives her power. So if anything, she'll burn whomever she knows has kings blood.

She cant use him if he is a cropse,right?So , first she has to help him,so she can use him when the need required it .

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I think Melisandre has more interest in Jon than just his blood. I think she is going to lose interest in Stannis (who is just a means to an end) and will completely devote herself to the idea that Jon is Azor Ahai come again.



Is Jon really dead? I would certainly hope not.



So far there are a select few characters that seem to be "unkillable" (even for GRRM). Jon seems like one of these characters. Obviously, I could be very wrong in that assumption. We'll see.


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