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Varys or Littlefinger: Who do you think will survive?


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I'm one of the people who thinks that is safe to say varys will survive at the end of the series. The guy isn't playing the game for himself and doesn't have weaknesses like littlefinger( his obsession with sansa/cat and power). This is very simple: If littlefinger lose the game or makes a mistake, dies. But when it comes to varys I can see him surviving very well even with the defeat.



In my opinion, Varys, Arya, jon snow and sansa are the only characters that cannot be killed or at least it's very unlikely. I bet that even GRRM cannot kill these four characters.


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In my opinion, Varys, Arya, jon snow and sansa are the only characters that cannot be killed or at least it's very unlikely. I bet that even GRRM cannot kill these four characters.

Ssh! *Looks around* He might be listening.

On a serious note, I think LF will outlive Varys. Varys is disliked and distrusted enough just because he's a eunuch, not to mention him commanding a legion of spies. LF on the other hand makes open efforts to make friends and allies, even if the arrangements further his agenda as well as.

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I would love for them to both end up in the Night's Watch. Realistically I think they'll both die. Arya will kill Varys.

By the old gods, that would be hilarious listening to them bicker over chores, and attempt to play a mock game of thrones with Builders vs Stewards.

Realistlicly, I see LF as either dead or wishing he were. He has one weakness, and for some reason he put her clone right next to him.

Varys is 50/50. He's good at not burning as many bridges as LF, so when he inevitably fails, he might be able to sneak away in exile without anyone caring too much.

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I think LF will surely die, he's overreaching himself and can't even begin to control what he's started. (And he has a giant blind spot in Sansa that will come to haunt him)



Varys is difficult. I keep thinking that for all his plans his death will be more or less an accident, a stray arrow or something like that, or maybe Arya will kill him. Might be he disappears like Nettles, but I don't really believe it.


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It's interesting that the last two books (AFFC and ADoD) showcase the game cyvasse as a literarily substitute a game of thrones. With many of the "players" losing (dying) during the time of these two books, the players left are increasingly (or rather decreasingly) just Varys and Petyr Baelish. (In the game of thrones, you either live or die.)



I personally would love to see Petyr Baelish lose. It's somewhat "personal" as Sansa is one of my favorite characters. She is already being sexually molested, even if it's only throught kissing at the moment. The molestation will probably progress in AWow. I know Varys is not to be trusted (and this is sort of picking the greater of two evils), but I would love to see LF's downfall.


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