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Chapter 65 - Arya V - S1 E9

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We finally get to find out what happened to Arya and let me tell you... I am hungry. She has been living on the streets and she is dang hungry. She has gotten her pigeon killing leveled up but sadly her bartering skills are very rusty. Hopefully she can level up in that cause it's not going so well. Basically we get to learn about Arya living on the street. She finds that pigeons are the best way to get your grub on and than people are gonna steal your stuff. You have to admit that this girl is pretty dang tough through out all of this. She went from having it all to having nothing and she has stayed pretty together. She has slept on roofs and in barns, dealt with other punk kids on the street, figured out where to get her bowl of brown and all in all she is at least able to stay alive. She is hanging around and she heads down to the galley's to watch the ships and she sees one that shouldn't be there. She asks a guard passing which ship it is and he says it's the Sea Witch, the one that was suppose to bring Arya and Sansa home. She heads to the docks and sees some men dressed in Winterfel clothing. At this point we get a Obi Wan Kenobi moment and Syrio's voice tells her to see look with her eyes. She notices that she does not recognize a single one of the guards of Winterfell... and she knows her guards. So I'm assuming this is a trap that was laid for Arya or possibly for Ned. It's a pretty fleeting moment to be honest but it is mainly used to show that Arya is still retaining the lessons that Syrio has taught her.


Arya is cruising down the street when a bell from the Red keep begins to ring. People start chatting and tan a whore opens the curtains and asks what is going on while the dude is behind her trying to get her back to bed. Some people assume it is another death but it turns out it is a summoning for the people. So the crowd starts to bustle to Baelor and rumors are flying everywhere and Arya is taken with the tide and brought there as well. She gets through the crowd and climbs the statue of Baelor the Blessed and sees her father and most of the court up on the steps. Ned is looking pretty feeble and miserable and he begins to speak. He than confesses that he had plotted to put himself on the throne and than declares that Joffery is the true Heir. As he finishes a rock is thrown at him and has him bleeding. One thing that seems very similar among the deaths in Game of Thrones, at least i think, is that the main characters are usually injured or crippled in some way before they die, hence Ned's cast and now the injury to his head.


The Great Septopn rolls up and is like 'hey so the God's are pretty merciful and all but what would you have us do king.' Joffery than just pulls it out and he commands Ned to be killed and than all hell breaks loose. Varys is rushing over to counsel him, Sansa is crying, Cersei rushes to her son as well, Joffery is just confident in his command, and Illyn Payne goes to take Ned's head. Arya has this fight reaction and she gets her sword out and she starts shoving through the crowd to get to her dad to save him. As she is heading there someone is tailing her and trying to stop her but she keeps eluding her. She looks over the crowd and sees that the sword Illyn Payne is using to execute Ned is his own sword, Ice. This is probably one of the biggest insults that can be made to Ned, at least that is my first reaction, just brutal.


She is almost there when a hand yanks her back holds her clost to restrain her. She tries to fight back but this guy has got her held tight and he is willing her to not look as her father is executed. He drags her off and Arya discovers that it is Yoren, a member of the night's Watch, who has taken her. He brings her in alley and he begins to cut her hair and begins to call her 'boy'. Now let's think about this. I doubt Yoren was casually strolling to an execution and decided to grab Ned's daughter to save her and keep her from seeing's Ned's death. He must have been told to find her and take her away but by who? Was Ned possibly thinking a lot farther ahead than we are lead to believe? Did Varys set thus up or Littlefinger? It is just confusing to me as to why Yoren would do this unless he was doing it under orders. Whatever the answer is the big deal that happens ins that Ned Stark was just killed. Joffery just set off a barrel of gun powder and the shit is gonna hit the fan. Robb and his army was already on their way just cause they imprisoned him but now they are going to have more fury. Sansa is 100% on her own now with Arya gone and Ned being dead. This death was the one where we all knew that George is not messing around and was probably one of the top 5 most shocking deaths of the books and show. Ned played the game, lost, and died. R.I.P. Ned



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+1 to Arya for keeping Syrio's teaching in her mind.

-2 to Joffery. Seriously... He is doing this just to make a point that he is king.

+1 to Yoren for saving Arya and preventing her from seeing her father die. That is a memory no one should have and sadly Sansa will have that image of her father dying in her mind forever.

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I'm caught up! RL sucks.

With Robb calling in all of his banner men he has had plenty of their leaders mock and not trust him because of Robb's age. Lots of them try and get more land out of him or bully him out of leadership so they can lead. One of them was Greatjon who had a problem with Robb and refused to take orders from someone so green. Robb basically says that they will defeat the Lannisters without you and come back for Greatjon and take his castle from him. Greatjon pulls out his sword but with a casual whisper Grey Wind pounces and bites off a few of Greatjon's fingers. Must be one of those dude things where you respect someone who can take you down in a fight cause Greatjon basically turns into Robb'ss right hand man and becomes one of his most loyal men. Robb later tells Bran that he was scared out of his mind when Greatjon pulled his sword out. Robb has two faces, the regular boy him and Lord Robb. Curious to see if these two personalites will clash and how long he can keep up this act. We shall see.

I love watching Robb learn to be a leader through Bran's eyes. I also loved the line he said about how the one he really fears is Roose Bolton. In retrospect, how right he was...

They pull up to an inn and a women is hung outside almost eaten completely to bone by crows and her teeth are stained red. Back to the crossroads inn people and Tyrion is okay with all this. This was where he was originally captured so we are back square one. This is kind of cool because George took that side story and made it a completely separate story with a definitive beginning and a definitive end before it flowed back into the main story.

I feel like that scene highlights what an a-hole Tyrion can be sometimes, I remember he was just looking up at the woman's corpse and was like, "I just wanted a room, was that too much to ask?" I was thinking, "way to make this woman's (probable rape and) brutal murder about yourself."

Varys is very careful and powerful. He knows when to make his plays and he has his own motivations. First off his priority is not necessarily his own risk to power but more of his safety which may possibly lead to his demise (I don't know if he has a demise but he does it might be because of this). One difference between Littlefinger and Varys is that Littlefinger is in it for his own power and is willing to get his hands dirty. Varys is more about keeping himself safe and doing things behind the curtains. Varys's main motivation is to serve the realm and what he wants is peace and he will do what it takes to have that. Varys knows that if Ned is executed than the North is going to rebel. He tells Ned that he needs to confess to being a traitor and that Cersei will most likely let him live the rest of his life at the wall as a member of the Night's Watch. Ned pretty much says he can't do that and this is when we learn how far Varys will go. He basically says well Ned you have to remember your daughter and if Ned defies the crown the he can't guarantee her safety. While he is not threatening his daughter he will use her as leverage to get what he wants.

Yeah, I think this is where the show & books differ. The show seems to make Varys's motivations to be about the good of the realm, in the books I don't think it's so simple, but yes that is what he superficially professes to Ned is his concern. Also, I'm not sure if he was just playing on Ned's emotions vs. overtly threatening Sansa's life to coerce him. We'll never know, I guess.

So the fighting is over, Tywin is sipping some tea by the river and a rider shows up and informs him that had captures a few of the leaders and turns out Robb has taken basically his whole army across the twins and is headed for Riverun to defend it against Jamie and his army... so ya... Tywin kind of got schooled here.

I love Robb's tactics. It just makes me so nostalgic to read these parts of the book and then think what happens later on down the road...

This death was the one where we all knew that George is not messing around and was probably one of the top 5 most shocking deaths of the books and show. Ned played the game, lost, and died. R.I.P. Ned

Yeah, I think it had a lot of power coming from Arya's POV. This was the death of her innocence and then it just gets so much worse down the road when she gets inundated with slaughter after slaughter after slaughter.

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One thing I forgot to add is that I think it is very important that Ned's death was by Arya's POV because if it was from Ned's we as the reader would feel like it is the end of the book. But since it is from Arya's we feel like it is more of the beginning of her story.


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You may have noticed i Haven't done a Book Vs Show add in latley. I am going to be forgoing this until I finish the book and doing just the chapter review. I am going to be doing some editing of previous posts and changing the formatting of it all. Sorry I know that is super annoying especially to those who have read through all of my chapter analysis, which I very thankful for. But I will let yall know which chapters I made major changes too. You'll see it'll work out. Anyways, here's Brans last chapter of A Game of Thrones.

Chapter 66 - Bran VII - S1 E10

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Bran and Maester Luwin are chilling and looking down at the training yard; Ser Rodrick going red in the face as he trains the nooks in sword fighting. Bran looks down at them while Luwin is checking out a comet that is flying low, which I'm sure is the comet that is seen in the beginning of a Clash of Kings. Bran is our pretty gloomy. Whole family is gone, dad taking all the cool guys and Robb taking all the guys you hang out with when your best buds are busy. He says that if he could walk he could beat all them in swordplay. Than we get a branazord comment, he wants to be trained with a pole axe and ride on Hodor and be a killer Knight. This is a bit of foreshadowing as Bran will be able to Warg into Hodor later on.

Maester Luwin brings Bran to reality, explaining that the story of the blind Knight that Bran brings up is just a story and than he needs to not let dreams like that carry him away. Speaking of dreams Bran brings up that he dreamt that Ned was down in the crypts of Winterfell and that he was sad and it was something related to Jon. Now we don't get Ned's death from his perspective but this dream could indicate what he was thinking about. I go with the popular theory that R + L = J. Lyanna asked Ned to promise her something and I assume. I it is something to do with Jon. This sadness could be indication that he never fulfilled the promise that he made.

Bran tells Luwin that he tried to get Hodor down to the crypts but Hodor wouldn't go down the stairs cause the crypts frightened him. Luwin kind of has a attitude of 'he's not down there, let's go down and I'll show you.' I'm sure that's not how he is but in any case he has Osha carry Bran and they head to the crypts. As they are walking through the crypts Luwin challenges Bran to teach Osha about the Kings of Winter. Now this is a good move by George because it is a way to tell the back story and the history without it being out of place or setting up a scenario where we just listen in as Bran is taught by Luwin. Osha has a good line, she says that there are no Kings of Winter and Bran would know that if he ever saw a Winter.

They get down to the end we get a little jab of oh Ned what a guy. He had statues of his brother and sister made in the crypts which is usually reserved for the Lords of Winterfell, but he loved them so much he had them made. So there cruising along and Luwin points out that Ned isn't there and all of a sudden BOOM Luwin is attacked by Shaggy dog. Summer saves the day and Rickon comes out of the tomb and he is just sad and angry waiting for Ned to show up. Turns out that Rickon and Bran had the same dream. Rickon is quite a dark kid and I'm sure he will have some troubles later on because of what is happening to his family. I understand why but this kid still wigs me out. They decide to head to Luwin's tower which reminds me of Merlins tower from The Sword in the Stone, one of the best Disney movies out there. There's books everywhere, quills, ink pots and bird crap. Perfect place for the genius of Winterfell to live, and now I will never see Luwin the same.

What is interesting though is that Luwin is quite opposite from Merlin. Luwin takes a sort of Hermione attitude when it comes to knowledge. He gives logical reasons as to why the boys had the same dream and denies that dreams have any deeper meaning. Osha brings up the Children of the forest and than we get a good history lesson about them. First Luwin shows them a jar full of bits of Dragon Glass and tells them that they hunted with them. Now we an guess the Children lived a long time ago and this tells me that the White Walkers have been fighting against the Children, the reason for them to hunt and always use Dragon Glass.

Basic Children of the Forest History. They were the first to live in Westeros and than the First Men show up. They war and fight, magic and obsidian vs strength and Bronze. The First Men win but make a pact and the land was divided. Not only were not allowed to fight but the First Men promised to not even cut down trees in the land of children. The first Men seemed to gain respect for them because they eventually let their God go and took up worshiping what is now known as the Old God's. For a very long time there was peace until the Andals came. They took over the south, killed the children in those areas and brought over their Seven faced God. The North pushed back all assaults and preserved the faith of the Old God's.

Before we get anymore details a raven arrives. As Luwin goes to get the message about Ned's death Bran and Rickon already know what it is. There dreams points to the death of their father and the raven confirmed. Osha may have not had the dream but she is a bit more open minded than Luwin and has the sense to know what it is. It is so rough to read what the Stark family goes through and you just instantly sympathize with them.

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+ 1 to Branazord
+ 1 to Luwin for caring about Hodor
+ 1 to Ned for honoring his brother and sister.
- 1 to Rickon. I know he is just a kid but still he is going all crazy.
+ 1 to all Starks for sympathy over the death of Ned.

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Chapter 67 - Sansa VI - S1 E10



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We get to see the real aftermath of Ned's execution and it is really just a terrible thing. We look back on what Yoren did for Arya, keeping her from seeing her father die, and we wish that Sansa was able to have that same mercy. She is a dreadful state. Not eating, going through the cycles of crying and than sleeping and crying again. She dreams of her father dying and even gets to the point where she remembers the small details of his death. The smile that Joffery had on his face, the way Ned's legs twitched when the sword took off his head. You really feel for Sansa and this is the defining moment that will lead to her 'waking up' from her fairy tale land. No one came to save her father and she is basically on her own from this point on. This is the chapter where her transformation begins and I am excited to dive into this more, especially when I (hopefully) get to my POV reading.


Sansa is in a state where she is thinking of the worst possible scenarios and is a little paranoid, understandably. She dreams or imagine Ser Illyn Payne coming to kill her. She lays in bed naked, a sign of being vulnerable, as he climbs those stairs, with Ice in his hand, ready and willing to kill her. Turns out it isn't Ser Illyn but it's pretty much the worst thing about Ser Illyn... Joffery... oh that punk. He wakes her and tells her that she must attend court with him today. While Sansa refuses Joffery has The Hound get her out of bed. He does, noted eh does it gently, but Sansa refuses. Joffery, seeing this as okay, has Meryn Trant slap her, quite hard, and Sansa than obeys. The big thing we learn in this section is that Sansa and Joffery are still betrothed and will be married. This puts the nail in the coffin to Sansa's freedom. While Cersei didn't plan that Ned be killed she is doing the most strategic thing here and keeping Sansa as this hostage and using her as a tool to win a war with the North which we know is already on its way. As Joffery, Trant, and The Hound are leving, The Hound turns and gives Sansa some advice. He basically tells her to make Joffery happy, do what he says, and everything will get a lot easier. Sansa is quite good at this. Her survival instinct isn't to fight or flee but to fawn. She is going to do what it takes to make her captive be happy and be right, as long as it keep her alive.


A couple hours later we Meryn Trant is back to escort Sansa to the Court and we actually get a little character development with Trant. While Sansa is struggling obeying Jofferys Command she concludes that she must if she is live through this. She tells Meryn Trant that she will do whatever the King commands and Trant replies with 'as do I.' Sansa notices that Trant does not care for her in anyway. He doesn't hate her, he doesn't love her, he simply doesn't care. He in a sense is the kind of person that Sansa needs to become. A person who follows orders and not caring about how they make you feel. They get to court and she gets to see Joffery in action for the firs time. Any case that bored him he let his small council decide on. The one that did interest him were the ones he could either sentence to death or mutilate in some way. Two knights fighting to the death or a thief having his hand cut off. There is one lady who comes in wanting the body of a man she loved who was a traitor and has his head cut off so that she can bury him properly. she is sent the dugeons for loving a traitor (Ned Stark? ha ha I don't think so but you never know). Now... Why in the world does the council let Joffery do this, especially why does his mother let him do this? I mean compare this to the way Ned ruled? He heard everything out and made methodical sentences that were justly done. Cersei could be allowing this so that Joffery knows what it is like to be King, or maybe he is old enough that she can't control him like she can Tommen in later books. Either way the power is already getting to Joffery and getting out of hand.


As Sansa is watching all of this she spies on Janos Slynt. She has a hatred towards him as he was the one who held Ned down as he was executed. We do get some foreshadowing as she thinks 'I hope a hero comes and throws him down and cuts his head off' which is exactly what happens. Later in the series it is Jon Snow who becomes our classic hero that throws him down and executes him for disobeying orders. Sans is sitting there changing the way she thinks and it is hard to see someones realize the true reality of this life. The words of Littlefinger float through her mind that life isn't a fairy tale and than she thinks 'in life the monsters win.' This is such a sad thing because her character is getting a little darker as she begins to accept this way of thinking. Court is dismissed and Joffery and Sansa go for a walk... and man... This punk kid oh my goodness. So her father was just executed by his orders, she was hit by a knight of the Kingsguard on his orders, and on this littel stroll he asks 'so what are you getting for my birthday?' 'Sometimes your so stupid. Mother thinks you are'. This actually hurts Sansa emotionally. Like I said Sansa doesn't really have anyone and once you get rid of her family and all the men of Winerfell who came with them down to Kings Landing, the closest person to her was the Queen because to her she embodied all that a lady should be, which is what Sansa wanted to become. Than Joffery delivers the line of 'So i'm gonna get you pregnant as soon as I can and if it's a stupid child I'll kill you'. Seriously who says that! Demented little (Muble mumble). Anways...


Joffery leads Sansa to the balcony of the Gate and Sansa knows what Joffery is bringing her. She refuses to go but eventually takes the advice of the Hound and gives him what he wants. Joffery brings her to see the head of her fathers head. We get an awesome line here and is delivered very well in the TV Show. Sansa says 'How long do I have to look'. Joffery is actually disappointed by this, hoping he would get more a miserable reaction from her. Joffery goes down the line of heads and it here that we learn that Septa Mordane was killed as well and that Joffery has also left two spots open for his uncles, Stannis and Renly. This is a sign that Joffery has zero Baratheon in him. He has been raised by his mother his whole life and he has no respect for his uncles and I doubt he had any for his father, alive or dead. This just shows how corrupt he really is. He than tells Sansa that he will soon see Robb's head up there, for which Sansa replies basically that Robb will put Joffery's head up there. She is struck by Ser Meryn again and than Sansa has this moment. She sees that Joffery is right next to the edge of an 80 foot drop and she wants to push that worm lipped loser off of it, not even caring if she went over too. As she is thinking this The Hound comes up and kneels between Sana and Joffery and cleans up ehr broken lip and helps her up. Now was the Hound just doing this to be kind or did he sense the fact that Sansa was going to push Joffery? The relationship between the Hound and Joffery is kind of weird. The Hound is someone who defies orders later on and is just a bad ass really. To see him taking orders from Joffery and being okay with them surprises me. Maybe The Hound feels that he owes Joffery a debt since Joffery found a place for the Hound in Court? I dooubt the Hound truly cares for him but I am not 100% sure. What do you think?


Book Owns

+ 1 to Sansa for well deserved sympathy

+ 1 to the Hound. While he is following the orders of Joffery he does it in a more kind way and for the advice he gives her

-1 to Joffery for having Meryn Trant slap her.

-1 to Joffery for being a pretty messed up king already.

-2 to Joffery for the things he says to Sansa

+ 1 to Sansa for waking up and realizing what kind of person Joffery is.

+ 1 to Sansa, How long do I have to look. This was definitely more a defiance than anything she has done.

+ 1 to Sansa 'Maybe he will bring me your head'

-2 to Joffery for bring Sansa to see her fathers head and having Ser Meryn hit her again.

+ 1 to the Hound for his care for Sansa

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Chapter 68 - Daenerys IX - S1 E10

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Dany is running... Her brothers voice is echoing in her mind throughout this dream. All she can hear is him screaming 'You don't want to wake the dragon do you!' and the fear of these words is affecting her. As she is running towrds the Red door, representing her home, and when she is with Drogo she hears Viserys's voice and it holds her back. Dany has spent her whole life with her brother belittling her and abusing her and it has greatly held her back from discovering who she is and what she is capable of. This is the chapter when I believe Dany understands that she is the 'dragon'. Basically she has the rights to the Iron Throne and that she does posses this mystical power of the dragon which we will see demonstrated in the next Dany chapter.


Than we get the process by which she fully understand her destiny. First we get Jorah telling Dany that Rhaegar was the last dragon in a pretty definitive way. Now at first glance this may seem like a negative point for Jorah. Since this is in Dany's dream this could show us how she think about Jorah. She possibly doesn't fully trust her and sees Jorah as someone who doesn't believe in her or someone who is holding her back from becoming the Dragon. We will come back to this in a moment. Next we get Viserys screaming at Dany, calling her a slut and that he is the Dragon. As he is screaming he slowly begins to melt and burn, showing us that Viserys is out of the picture and can no longer hod her back. She than sees her son, standing tall and strong with a strong resemblance to Drogo. He reaches out to her and begins to speak but the fire pours out and he slowly burns. Dany cries over this but her tears turn to steam, which represents her grief. When she wakes up she doesn't weep or grieve over her child because she had already spent it all in her dream. She turns and begins to run down this hall that is lined with ghosts. These ghosts had hair of Gold, possibly representing the Lannisters, hair of platinum, representing the Targaryans, and hair of silver, which may represent the Starks but I'm not sure. The Ghosts are yelling at her 'faster, faster' and eventually Dany sprouts wings and flies away from them; she has become the Dragon. She flies over Westeros, people flee in terror from her. She comes upon Jorah and her brother Rhaegar and Jorah once again says that Rhaegar is the last dragon. Dany goes up to her brother, lifts up her visor, and she sees herself looking back at her. So in a sense it was Jorah who led Dany to find out that she was the Dragon.


Dany waking up is an event that happens a few times throughout this chapter. first time she wakes up she is barely coherent, the second time they find her crawling towards the dragon eggs that were given to her by Illyrio and the third time is when it all comes clear as to what has happened. The basic low down is that Jorah brought Dany to Mirri to deliver the baby. The baby did not survive, which Dany was not shocked by, and the baby was deformed, had scales instead of a skin, a small tail, full of grave worms and so forth. It's very unsettling to hear about and it is a hint towards the real kind of children she will bring forth later. One thing this does bring up is the shame Jorah has for this. he feels responsible for the death of her child due to him bringing her into the tent for a pretty freaky ritual was going on. As they head out of the tent she comes to realize that her 40,000 strong Khalasar has left her, breaking up into smaller Kahls and leving only the weak and feeble. than we get a pretty ferocious response from Dany. Even in this state she is in she just goes off on all these people who left her and vowed that they would die screaming. Now most of those around her have this feel and look about them that is stating 'Khaleesi... you have nothing... it is not possible.' Dany has this confidence in her because of her dream. Just how she has accepted the fact that he son was going to be dead when she woke up she is confident in her abilities to be the dragon and conquer.


Than we get a pretty... just sad moment here. Dany and Mirri really have it out. To keep Drogo alive Mirri made Dany think that it was the horse that was the sacrifice, but it was really Dany's child. Now this changes show we view the previous chapter. it might not have been Dany going into labor that caused her to be brought to Mirri but it might have been the life of the child being sucked out that caused her that pain. She is brough to Drogo and he is basically an empty shell. While he is alive he does not respond to her in any way and is basically a blank body. Than we get a pretty intense conversation between her and Mirri. Basically this, Mirri knew that Drogo would end up like this. While Dany is saying 'look i saved your life and you owe me' Mirri is saying my life is basically like Drogo's is right now. Yall destroyed my city, I was raped, my temple was destroyed, I lost everything. Life without a purpose, a desire, a passion, or a path is absolutely nothing. The other thing she says is that now the Stallion who will Mount the World won't be able to destroy nations. Mirri wasn't to spare the world from that sort of life. Mirri is taken away and Dany takes Drogo and tries to basically get him back to his old self. She ends up basically trying to have sex with him but it doesn't work. Eventually she accepts that Drogo cannot live the life he is suppose to live and deserves to live so she eventually suffocates him death to release him from living a life of... well of not having a life.


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+2 to Dany for realizing her potential and moving past Viserys

+ 1 to Jorah. He could have left Dany to rot and joined another Kahl but he is that loyal to her it is mind blowing really

-3 to Mirri. She seeked out revenge, and while it is understandable as to why we still don;t like her because it affected Dany.

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Sorry for the delay again. Got married, Honeymoon, and so forth = ) Almost done! Only three more chapters left! And I have big plans for this. Possibly selling a hardcover copy of all these notes with a bunch of rivisions = )

Chapter 69 - Tyrion IX - S1 E10

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While Jamie was getting his butt kicked in the Whispering Woods Tywin and his army basically tried to book it down the Green Fork and try to make it to the other side so that they can back Jamie up, even at the cost of the weak and feeble that are left behind on their march. They make it back down to the ruined Inn at the crossroads and they receive a courier from Riverrun informing them that Jamie and his army had been taken. I believe Tywin knew he would never had made it in time but it shows that he is willing to sacrifice the weak and injured to save face and not have people say that Tywin Lannister gave up on his son. The honor of House Lannister stand above all else in the eyes of Tywin Lannister... by the way it just doesn't sound as cool just saying Tywin... you gotta say Tywin Lannister. So they get the rundown. To take Riverrun you need to have your army split into three groups and have them in each alcove of the rivers. With Jamie's army split once Robb took the main host the other two for easy picking, it is as simple as that.
Than we get some arguing among his counsel and a kind of awkward moment. So one of Tywin's counselors is basically asking how did the scouts not spot Robb army from coming and the courier just says they never reported I cause they kept disappearing. Than the Mountain comes in and is like, tear out the eyes of those that failed you and give them to the next. If he fails you tearful their eyes and give them to the next so they have six eyes. Than the whole counsel does that slow turn and stare, including Tywin, and Tyrion is sitting there thinking, what the he'll was that? Than we get a freak out, some saying we need to make peace, others saying we need to get our prisoners back and trying to figure out how to barter for them. Tyrion has the sense of reason here and has a good oversized head on his shoulders. He takes his wine up and shatters it on the floor, after drinking it all of course, and telling them the chances of them having is peace was shattered when they hung Ned Starks head on the walls of the Red Keep. Tywin stands up, yells they have my son, and dismisses them all other than Tyrion and Tywin brother Kevan
Tywin offers his wine cup to Tyrion before he can go after more. Tyrion is set back by this. This is the closest thing to love he has ever received from his father. Tywin brings them both up to date on more recent news. We find out that after Renly left Kings Landing and proceeded to marry Margaery Tyrell daughter to Mace Tyrell, Lord of Highaldn. With this alliance Renly has crowned himself king and plans to march on Kings Landing and take the Iron Throne for himself. Tywin throws a compliment towards Tyrion and an insult. While he is glad Tyrion is not so much a fool as Joffery, who wants to take the City Watch to fight Renly and leave Kings Landing defenseless, he also is glad Joffery hasn't married a whore yet like Tyrion did. They pull out the map to show us how much I a pickle they are. Robb is in control of the East, blocking them off from Lannisport and Casterly Rock, Roose Bolton has the North, Renly has an army in the South and Stamina has the West with his army waiting on Dragonstone. Tywin decides to head to Harrenhal to set up camp and see what needs to be done.
Tywin send Kevan to give the orders and he gets some time with Tyrion. Tywin looks at Kings Landing and see's it being ruled by a true fool. Janos Slynt is rewarded for his betrayal of Ned Stark, taking a bloody spear as his sigil to show how he gained his 'glory', The Hound is placed at the high table, and the counsel has no discipline. Tywin has decided to send Tyrion in his place as Hand of the King. Now why in the world would he do this? Tywin controls the other half of the army that defends Kings Landing and needs to command it directly. Tyrion is shocked but he thinks he knows why. He believe Tywin has given up on Jamie, believing him to be dead or something, and that Tyrion is all he has left. Let's think of it in another way. Compare Tywin and Jamie. What do they have in common? Both great leaders in battle but Jamie is it the one to scheme and rule In a political way like Tywin can, who can pull off political and military. When you compare Tywin to Tyrion, especially in the later part of the series, you see that they both have the ability to rule politically and be a strong ruler. In essence Tyrion is Tywin's real son but Tywin doesn't want to admit it. Tyrion is soon to be off to Kings Landing to rule.
Book character rating
+1 to Tyrion for bringing them to their senses
+1 to Robb. He really messed Tywin up and it is intense to see such a young Lord fool Tywin Lannister.
+1 to Tywin. Varys, the cockless wonder.
+1 to Tywin for giving Tyrion some power
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Chapter 70 - Jon IX - S1 E10
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Jon is saddling up his bags in the dark of night. Same is nearby begging him to stay and not leave the Night's Watch and possibly be caught for desertion. Jon is determined though at the moment we don't know his motivation we can assume that he has heard the news of the death of his father and wishes to exact some revenge for the wrong that was done. Now I'm wondering, why is Sam there? it is the dead of night and I'm sure that Jon didn't invite him to his little departure. Pretty sure they don't sleep near by but it was probably just a coincidence. Jon rides past Sam, causing Sam to dive into the hay nearby, and Jon is off. we get to go through some of his thoughts. His saddest thoughts go to Mormont who has assumed the position of a father to Jon. The biggest thing we learn is that Jon decided to leave Longclaw back in his cell so as to not bring dishonor to the sword or House Mormont for being a deserter. This is pretty noble of Jon, respecting the honor he was given and realizing he wasn't worthy to wield it. He has done this previously with the Direwolves and I'm sure he will do it again. We get pretty thought provoking insight into the religions of Westeros. Jon compares how the Old Gods answer prayers and the New God's do. The New God's have septons to represent them and give out counsel verbally while the Old God's is more of a spiritual manner. Jon wishes he could just receive the counsel now instead of having to be at a heartwood tree but Jon is young and most people that young have that sort of mentality.
We than get the thoughts of any young boy in this situation, the world is about me and they are all going to be after me. This brings me back to the third Harry Potter book. When Harry performs unintentional magic he departs the Dursley's and every worse case scenario floods through Harry's mind and the same is with Jon in this moment. Jon see's Winterfell not even accepting him, that ravens would flood the sky with news of his departure and that everyone will be looking for him. It's teenage paranoia. He rides through Moles Town and he sits and thinks about all the other members of the Night's Watch who have come here for the whore house. Not to be all bashing on Jon but this should have been a hint towards him that all those members who went to moles Town weren't killed or called traitors so at this point it is not all that big of a deal that he has left. Ghost comes along with Jon and follows him most of the way but eventually he lags behind. Now this could possibly be that Ghost just wants to hut but it could also mean that Ghost doesn't agree with what is happening at the moment and is trying to find a way for Jon to turn back.
Jon rides past Moles Town and it is in this town that Jon would have normally realized something very important but his teenage determination made him blind to it. Moles Town is the closest city to the wall and the whore house here has had many members of the Night's Watch visit from time to time. Jon knows this and consciously thinks about his brother doing this. Jon doesn't believe that Commander Mormont knows that his men have done this which is Jon's mistake. After Grenn, Pyp and a couple of others ride out to bring Jon back, who reluctantly does, he gets to sit down and chat with Mormont. Mormont straight up asks Jon how is night ride was and than proceeds to tell Jon that he of course knew he would desert. Mormont basically says that if he killed every man who deserted for a day or made a rash decision like that than the Wall would be guarded by ghosts. Mormont knew that Jon fled because of his honor to the Starks and he knew his friends would bring Jon back because of his honor. Mormont knows his men, you can't deny that. Mormont than basically brings Jon down to reality, telling him that your just one kid among an army and your not going to change the war by yourself, unless you have a grumpkin in your pocket making your sword magical... still don't know what a grumpkin is.
Mormont gives Jon a rundown of what has been really happening around the Wall lately. Hundreds and hundreds of elk and mammoths have been migrating to places they usually don't go, strange footprints were seen around Eastwatch, and Huge bonfires can be seen deep in the forest. Mormont plans to take a huge chunk of the Night's Watch to find Benjen Stark, ride against the King-Beyond-The-Wall and to figure out what is going on so that they can be prepared for anything to come. Mormont wants Jon to come with him and we get almost a fourth Wall breaking moment here. Mormont tells Jon that the war that is going on in the south means nothing if the Wildlings and the White Walkers come after the Wall. When Dead men are rising nad trying to enter the realm, the war for the Iron throne is insignificant. We as the audience forge that in the series because we only get one, soon to be two, perspectives of what is going on at the Wall and beyond the Wall. More than 75% of the book is about Kings Landing and the political and literal war in the South and it is easy to forge about the North. Jon than agrees that this is the place for him to be and he goes forth to prepare himself to go Beyond the Wall.
Book Character Ratings
+1 to Jon for leaving Longclaw and not being greedy or selfish.
+1 to Mormont for know his men.
+1 to Mormont for havign a plan and bringing Jon back to reality
+1 to Jon for realizing where he needs to be and stays.
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Chapter 71 - Catelyn XI - S1 E10



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Catelyn and Robb have taken care of the Lannister army and are headed back to Riverrun by taking a boat up the river. This place floods her mind with all of these great memories. With the death of her husband they mainly focus on the day her and Ned departed for Winterfell. People were cheering her and calling out her and Robb's name. They get into Riverrun and Edmure, her brother, is waiting for her. They immediately embrace and than he heads her to go see her father. Catelyn is than informed that her father is on the brink of death which angers her. Hoster Tully avoided letting that information get out, to avoid the notion that Riverrun's king was weak and would fall easily. As she is going up she starts to realize what her actions have caused. She blames quite a lot on herself since she was the one who kidnapped Tyrion and started this whole mess. She goes to see her father and he is just miserable. Constant pain, sleeps a lot, lotso f dream wine and milk of the poppy. Catelyn does catching up with her father and heads to the Hall to see her son.


Theon is sitting with Catelyn's men reliving the battle at the Whisper Woods and directs Catelyn to the Godswood to find Robb. Catelyn is extremely moved by the fact that Robb is doing what Ned would have done. She see's him kneeling before the Heart tree praying with his men around him. Catelyn now has a resentment towards the Gods instead of just finding them queer. She blames the death of Ned on them and for the sickness that is on her father. Once again religion is such an interesting thing in this land because there really hasn't been any religious discrimination or hatred. Both sets of Gods seem to be accepted and Catelyn has now decided that the Old Gods have brought her no good basically. While she is waiting for Robb is he begins to have memories come back to her. we forget sometimes that Littlefinger did grow up with Catelyn. She has a memory of LF kissing her and her sister, even gave them some tongue the sly dog.


Robb finishes up and delivers the news that Renly Baratheon has crowned himself king and that Highgarden and Storm's End support him. Robb calls together a War Council and many idea are thrown out there. Who to ally with, what direction they should go, should they stay, should they peruse Tywin Lannister, and so forth. Robb is unsure as to what to do. he tells them he has prayed to the Gods about their situation and a answer hasn't been received. Robb has a mind like his father. He sees Joffery as the true King and attacking him would mean they would be labled as traitors to the crown. some call for peace but the others push them down. Catelyn brings up a treaty and the men immediately shut her down because she is the gentler sex and so on. Catelyn continues to persuade them but too many of the leaders bring up their concerns. If they sign a treaty and Renly becomes King than they will be traitors in his eyes, or the thought of the Lannisters getting away with what they have done in the River Lands. The Lannisters have a crossed a point where respect and honor will be received by the Men in the North. The Greatjon rises and declares that the Lannisters and Renly will never receive his vows of fealty. He pulls out his great sword, keels before Robb and declares him King in the North, the only man he will bend the knee too. The birth of the King in the North and the movement of the North becoming separate from the other Seven Kingdoms has begun, and Robb Stark is going to lead them. KING IN THE NORTH!


Book Character Ratings

+1 to Catelyn for admitting she was at fault.

+ 1 to Robb or relying on his faith for an answer

+1 to Catelyn for her, give me Cersei Lannister and I'll show you how gentle I can be.

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Chapter 72 - Daenerys X - S1 E10



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This is a chapter in which what is exactly happening is unfolded before us as we read. We make assumptions based on the little info we are given so I will write as such. Daenerys has ordered that a pyre be built so that they can send Kahl Drogo to the Night Lands properly. Drogo's treasured possessions are placed in the pyre along with a horse that was not his own but was worthy to be. In this process she also has Mirri tied as she is telling Daenerys that she cannot perform this blood magic she plans to do and that only she can do it. So Dany is possibly doing something pretty freaky here with the pyre that is being built. Jorah goes before Daenerys and swears fealty to her and begs her not to go through with it. Jorah believes that Dany is to climb into the pyre along with Drogo so that they may die together, but Dany reassures him she won't. With Dany's child gone and passed away she realizes that is she who is the dragon, that she has this power to resist fire and not be burned. She knows what is up and we shouldn't doubt her.


Dany brings all of the remaining people to her and frees them from there slavery if they are in it and from any obligations they have ot her. She asks them to stay if they want to but that no harm will come to those that leaves. she brings forth her past husband's bloodriders. In turn she gives a whip, a Arkah, and a dragon Bone Bow to these men and declares them to be her bloodriders. After each gift the men declare that they are grateful but that they cannot accept the call to be her bloodriders because she is a women. She than asks Jorah to swear his allegience to her and he does, offering his services and his life if needed. She promises him a Valaryian Steel sword someday and than she gives him a small kiss. After this plenty of the Dothraki are puzzled and start whispering among themselves. Dany has spent so much time with these people that she has learned their language, customs, and become them. Having her ask men to be in her guard and to have her kiss Jorah is a way of Dany showing that she is basically shedding off her old skin and becoming someone new now. `


Dany than goes to prepare for whatever to plans to do. she takes a bath and the moment is slightly ruined by wear her servants place the perfume on her. Dany than goes and washes Drogo and hangs all of the bells in his hair, which is slightly ruined by the fact that his hair smells like semen. Though she does make the observation that Drogo's hair was never cut, which is a very rare thing for any Dothraki to achieve. Now this is pretty cool but it still doesn't cover up the fact that he died from an infection. The hard thing about this series is that most of the time, people die in ways that do no glorify them... almost like real life. They place the body of Drogo on the pyre and Mirri is tied to the Pyre as well. Dany pours the oil over her herself and Dany tells her that the one lesson she learned from her was that only death can pay for life. In this pyre we have Drogo, his horse, and Mirri. Along with these three lives are the three dragon eggs that Dany has placed. As the fire is going she hears Mirri scream in agony. She walks to the fire, Jorah screaming at her to come back, and Dany goes in to join her husband. she does not burn, she does not die, but she survive, hearing three loud cracks as what I think to be as the dragon eggs hatching. the fire dies down, Jorah finds dany with three dragons wrapped around her, protecting and feeding off of her. Jorah falls to his knees along with the bloodriders and all of the Dothraki. The Dragons sing and the scene ends. This first book has been compared to a prologue and I believe it is. it sets up everything that needs to be done for the rel story to begin the next book, A Clash of Kings.


Character Ratings - Book

+1 to Jorah for his loyalty and for giving Daenerys his heart

+ 1 to Dany for sticking it to Mirri

+ 1 to Dany for her bravery

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Well everyone I finished it! All 73 chapters of the first book in The Song of Ice and Fire Series are on this thread! It too me about 5.5 months to do the first book and I truly feel I have only scratched the surface of this series. I have a lot on my mind as to what to do next, I have new ideas, new angles as to how to read these books and study them. What you see posted here is basically my rough draft. The final Draft I can hopefully get done in about 2 months or so, adding maps, marking up my book to make it easy to read throguh characters, a whole new rating system that will not only integrate how much we like a character but also where they stand morally as well. So as for now you may not hear from me for the next few months, but I will be back to work on A Clash of Kings along with the episodes that coincide with those chapters. The way I do Book Vs show has changed a lot in my mind so I will sadly not include Episode 10 in this thread at least for now. I haven;t decided if I will post my final draft with all the extra cool things on this site yet, I have a good friend who wants to talk about possibly selling my notes to people and also to recreate copies of the books the way I have them marked up. http://i.imgur.com/2lX4V6F.jpg http://imgur.com/pFZGj1V



Excited for Book 2! I'll be posting it in the Re Read Project and link this one so that people can go through this one and possibly get a little more traffic. Hope to see you all in a few months!


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Here is an excerpt from my essay analyzing Martin’s shifting points of view in his narratives, starting with “The Prologue” from AGoT.



YOU SAW HOW YOUNG HE WAS”



Pronoun Shift, Dangling Modifier, and Skewed Logic



The final illustration of Martin’s shifting from third- to second-person-point-of-view appears in a sentence that he opens with a dangling modifier. The usually perspicuous Martin composes a confusing, illogical passage wherein pronoun usage errors are the compelling offenses.



Martin writes:



“Royce’s body lay face down in the snow, one arm out flung. The thick sable cloak had been slashed in a dozen places. Lying dead like that, you saw how young he was. A boy” (10).



The introductory participial phrase “lying dead like that” functions as an adjective and technically should modify the subject of the main clause [YOU saw how young he was], which is YOU. Martin’s poor wording in modification is an oversight an editor should have caught; that is, unless Martin means more in his subtext.



“YOU”, or the reader(s), is/are NOT “lying dead”. Ser Royce is the unfortunate chap lying dead. The error could have been corrected easily with a little wordsmithing as follows:



“Lying dead like that, he looked young, like a boy”.



The next issue with the same sentence is the pronoun THAT in “Lying dead like that”. The antecedent of “that” is unclear. Martin narrows the scope with a few options:



  1. “Royce’s body lay face down in the snow, one arm out flung”.
  2. “The thick sable cloak had been slashed in a dozen places”.
  3. Both A and B


With Royce’s face down, Will cannot feasibly assess Royce’s countenance to determine that he “looked young, like a boy”. After all, the face is the aspect people usually scrutinize when gauging the age of another. So, if not Will’s face, the pronoun that may refer to Royce’s final repose and/or to Royce’s shredded sable cloak. However, neither of these options communicate that Royce “looked young, like a boy” when “lying dead”.



Will might mean that Royce’s spent corpse beneath his shredded cloak makes Royce look “young, like a boy” in contrast to Royce’s formidable stature astride his warhorse, where he towers over Will and Gared. With his arm out flung and with his face down, Royce appears helpless and smaller in stature “like a boy”. Royce reaches out in death for a weapon, for help, or for the unattainable dreams he had in life. Thus, the once intensely driven ranging commander succumbs to the great leveler of all men, death.



However, Will mentions Royce’s youth frequently in the “Prologue”. For example, Will refers to Royce as a “young knight” (4) and lordling, a term for a young, minor lord: “Down below, the lordling called out suddenly, “Who goes there?” Will heard uncertainty in the challenge”. Perhaps Will hears fear in Royce’s uncertain challenge, or perhaps the advent of the White Walkers affects Royce’s voice.



Next, as Royce looks upon his foe, his breath leaves him in a hiss, which causes his voice to crack “like a boy’s”:


“‘Come no farther,’ the lordling warned. His voice cracked like a boy’s”. Royce’s voice returns him to puberty. Royce has finally “felt them”, and their presence, and his fear takes away his breath. A dry mouth accounts for his voice cracking.



Royce graduates from a boy to a “man” of the Night’s Watch as he dances with the White Walker: “His hands trembled from the weight of it [sword], or perhaps from the cold. Yet in that moment, Will thought, he was a boy no longer, but a man of the Night’s Watch. The “that” modifying “moment” limits greatly the length of time Will sees Royce achieve his “manhood” as a Sworn Brother of the Night’s Watch. After a short interval of time, Royce returns to looking young and like a boy.



Despite his name, his expensive wardrobe, his castle-forged longsword, his moleskin gloves, his ring mail, and his impressive warhorse, the antagonistic, vain, insensitive, and unreasonable Royce is laid low by an enemy he hardly challenges in combat. Readers sometimes forget, so Martin reminds them, just as he reminds Will of “the boy” in Royce.



If Martin’s pronoun shift, dangling modifier, and skewed logic serve higher purposes, then perhaps the author wants “the readers” to note the “boy” who once wears the handsome features of Ser “Way More” Royce. In this way, Martin aspires to “shock” his readers along with Will when Royce rises as a wight to reveal his disfigured face.



To emphasize Royce’s cyclopean views, Martin writes: “A shard from his [Royce’s] sword transfixed the blind white pupil of his left eye” (11).



Royce’s narrow mindedness is evident as the commander is “blind” to reason; he belittles seasoned rangers and ridicules their wise counsel, yet he is a boy, a youth whose faults cannot be excused. Martin creates characters just as, and even more flawed, than Royce, young people whose circumstances empower them before they have been adequately prepared to make good judgements, to lead others, and to respect fear.

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Here is an excerpt from my essay analyzing Martin’s shifting points of view in his narratives, starting with “The Prologue” from AGoT.

YOU SAW HOW YOUNG HE WAS”

Pronoun Shift, Dangling Modifier, and Skewed Logic

The final illustration of Martin’s shifting from third- to second-person-point-of-view appears in a sentence that he opens with a dangling modifier. The usually perspicuous Martin composes a confusing, illogical passage wherein pronoun usage errors are the compelling offenses.

Martin writes:

“Royce’s body lay face down in the snow, one arm out flung. The thick sable cloak had been slashed in a dozen places. Lying dead like that, you saw how young he was. A boy” (10).

The introductory participial phrase “lying dead like that” functions as an adjective and technically should modify the subject of the main clause [YOU saw how young he was], which is YOU. Martin’s poor wording in modification is an oversight an editor should have caught; that is, unless Martin means more in his subtext.

“YOU”, or the reader(s), is/are NOT “lying dead”. Ser Royce is the unfortunate chap lying dead. The error could have been corrected easily with a little wordsmithing as follows:

“Lying dead like that, he looked young, like a boy”.

The next issue with the same sentence is the pronoun THAT in “Lying dead like that”. The antecedent of “that” is unclear. Martin narrows the scope with a few options:

  1. “Royce’s body lay face down in the snow, one arm out flung”.

  2. “The thick sable cloak had been slashed in a dozen places”.

Both A and B

With Royce’s face down, Will cannot feasibly assess Royce’s countenance to determine that he “looked young, like a boy”. After all, the face is the aspect people usually scrutinize when gauging the age of another. So, if not Will’s face, the pronoun that may refer to Royce’s final repose and/or to Royce’s shredded sable cloak. However, neither of these options communicate that Royce “looked young, like a boy” when “lying dead”.

Will might mean that Royce’s spent corpse beneath his shredded cloak makes Royce look “young, like a boy” in contrast to Royce’s formidable stature astride his warhorse, where he towers over Will and Gared. With his arm out flung and with his face down, Royce appears helpless and smaller in stature “like a boy”. Royce reaches out in death for a weapon, for help, or for the unattainable dreams he had in life. Thus, the once intensely driven ranging commander succumbs to the great leveler of all men, death.

However, Will mentions Royce’s youth frequently in the “Prologue”. For example, Will refers to Royce as a “young knight” (4) and lordling, a term for a young, minor lord: “Down below, the lordling called out suddenly, “Who goes there?” Will heard uncertainty in the challenge”. Perhaps Will hears fear in Royce’s uncertain challenge, or perhaps the advent of the White Walkers affects Royce’s voice.

Next, as Royce looks upon his foe, his breath leaves him in a hiss, which causes his voice to crack “like a boy’s”:

“‘Come no farther,’ the lordling warned. His voice cracked like a boy’s”. Royce’s voice returns him to puberty. Royce has finally “felt them”, and their presence, and his fear takes away his breath. A dry mouth accounts for his voice cracking.

Royce graduates from a boy to a “man” of the Night’s Watch as he dances with the White Walker: “His hands trembled from the weight of it [sword], or perhaps from the cold. Yet in that moment, Will thought, he was a boy no longer, but a man of the Night’s Watch. The “that” modifying “moment” limits greatly the length of time Will sees Royce achieve his “manhood” as a Sworn Brother of the Night’s Watch. After a short interval of time, Royce returns to looking young and like a boy.

Despite his name, his expensive wardrobe, his castle-forged longsword, his moleskin gloves, his ring mail, and his impressive warhorse, the antagonistic, vain, insensitive, and unreasonable Royce is laid low by an enemy he hardly challenges in combat. Readers sometimes forget, so Martin reminds them, just as he reminds Will of “the boy” in Royce.

If Martin’s pronoun shift, dangling modifier, and skewed logic serve higher purposes, then perhaps the author wants “the readers” to note the “boy” who once wears the handsome features of Ser “Way More” Royce. In this way, Martin aspires to “shock” his readers along with Will when Royce rises as a wight to reveal his disfigured face.

To emphasize Royce’s cyclopean views, Martin writes: “A shard from his [Royce’s] sword transfixed the blind white pupil of his left eye” (11).

Royce’s narrow mindedness is evident as the commander is “blind” to reason; he belittles seasoned rangers and ridicules their wise counsel, yet he is a boy, a youth whose faults cannot be excused. Martin creates characters just as, and even more flawed, than Royce, young people whose circumstances empower them before they have been adequately prepared to make good judgements, to lead others, and to respect fear.

Personally, I think the "you" there, it is instead of using "Anybody"...like "Anybody could see how young he was"

Just thought of leaving my input.

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I support everyone making their own theories and yours is an intriguing one(Ned and 8 graves) i will just nudge you a bit. The 3 Kingsguard werent in Kings Landing and they werent at the Trident. So why were they at the Tower of Joy? Who were they guarding? It has to be someone very very important. Rhaegar named that tower,the Tower of Joy. Why? Why was Ned there in the first place? Connect those dots and you will see why that chapter is huge.

I wasnt calling you out or anything,it was just an advice. I could have let you continue and not say a thing but that chapter is just so important. You are doing an awesome job man.

Hey, I just started reading this thread, along with the first book in the series, and your post caught my attention. Let me know if I am totally wrong here, but are you implying that Lyanna Stark is at the Tower of Joy, Ned is going to save her, and the Kingsgaurd is there to maybe protect a child (possibly Jon Snow?)

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