Carllav Posted January 12, 2015 Share Posted January 12, 2015 There have been others in the story that were. Could brienne also be? She almost says, at one point, that's she's her fathers son, but stops herself. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DutchShamrock Posted January 13, 2015 Share Posted January 13, 2015 I would have a hard time believing that her father would actively try to wed her if she were in fact a hermaphrodite. Maesters would have enough knowledge of the condition to understand she would be infertile and it would be a black mark on their house when the condition was discovered in the bedding. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
House Obama Posted January 13, 2015 Share Posted January 13, 2015 I’m sorry, but no she is not. If Brienne was, Jaime would have mentioned it while she rose in front of him naked, during Jamie’s confessional in the hot tub. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JonCon's Red Beard Posted January 13, 2015 Share Posted January 13, 2015 Yes. She is a Hermaphrodite Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lady Meliora Posted January 15, 2015 Share Posted January 15, 2015 ...There is some value to this question, actually. While we're not told that Brienne has external male genitalia (which I'm sure Jaime would have noticed and commented on), her general build and apparent lack of secondary female sex characteristics (higher-pitched voice, breasts, et cetera) might point toward a intergendered condition such as 5-alpha-reductase deficiency, in which the child is karyotypically male (XY chromosomes) but develops physically as a female until puberty, when testosterone production ramps up and male secondary characteristics begin to appear. I'm not saying I think this must be the case with Brienne, but it's a possibility that would explain some things about her appearance and behavior. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
House Obama Posted January 15, 2015 Share Posted January 15, 2015 ...There is some value to this question, actually. While we're not told that Brienne has external male genitalia (which I'm sure Jaime would have noticed and commented on), her general build and apparent lack of secondary female sex characteristics (higher-pitched voice, breasts, et cetera) might point toward a intergendered condition such as 5-alpha-reductase deficiency, in which the child is karyotypically male (XY chromosomes) but develops physically as a female until puberty, when testosterone production ramps up and male secondary characteristics begin to appear. I'm not saying I think this must be the case with Brienne, but it's a possibility that would explain some things about her appearance and behavior.There are many women with deep voices and male features, but a true hermaphrodite have a (let's be mature here) penis and vagina... I would be completely shock if she is one though lol. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lady Meliora Posted January 15, 2015 Share Posted January 15, 2015 There are many women with deep voices and male features, but a true hermaphrodite have a (let's be mature here) penis and vagina... I would be completely shock if she is one though lol. Oh, I don't personally think she is intersexed to any degree. But there's always a chance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
House Obama Posted January 15, 2015 Share Posted January 15, 2015 Oh, I don't personally think she is intersexed to any degree. But there's always a chance.Lol okay, I was just making sure. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Sapna Posted January 15, 2015 Share Posted January 15, 2015 If your going to make silly theories on hermaphrodites why not do it on characters that have never been mentioned as naked. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
donald*rain Posted January 15, 2015 Share Posted January 15, 2015 Transgender is what I've imagined Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Bear Posted January 15, 2015 Share Posted January 15, 2015 I wouldn't even say Brienne is transgendered. She's never given any hint of hating her breasts. She doesn't really spend any time thinking 'I wish I were male', in fact, Cersei dwells more on the whole 'I should have been a boy' thing than Brienne does. I think she's just unusual for her world, she's a female who is an excellent fighter, who prefers male clothing, and who wants to be taken seriously in spite of her gender. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steelborn Posted January 16, 2015 Share Posted January 16, 2015 I wouldn't even say Brienne is transgendered. She's never given any hint of hating her breasts. She doesn't really spend any time thinking 'I wish I were male', in fact, Cersei dwells more on the whole 'I should have been a boy' thing than Brienne does. I think she's just unusual for her world, she's a female who is an excellent fighter, who prefers male clothing, and who wants to be taken seriously in spite of her gender. Cersei is the hermaphrodite then? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lady Meliora Posted January 17, 2015 Share Posted January 17, 2015 Cersei is the hermaphrodite then? Cersei obviously isn't a hermaphrodite, as she's given birth to three children. I also don't think she's transgendered. It's more like Cersei doesn't realize how inept she is, so she blames her plans being ignored/reviled on "they hate me because I'm a woman! if only I were a man, I'd show them!" She assumes she'd be better off as a man because she sees her gender as the only thing standing in the way of her certain conquest of all of Westeros, not because she actually feels uncomfortable being a woman. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Bear Posted January 17, 2015 Share Posted January 17, 2015 Cersei obviously isn't a hermaphrodite, as she's given birth to three children. I also don't think she's transgendered. It's more like Cersei doesn't realize how inept she is, so she blames her plans being ignored/reviled on "they hate me because I'm a woman! if only I were a man, I'd show them!" She assumes she'd be better off as a man because she sees her gender as the only thing standing in the way of her certain conquest of all of Westeros, not because she actually feels uncomfortable being a woman. Exactly what I meant, though I think the question was tongue in cheek :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mad Madam Mim Posted January 18, 2015 Share Posted January 18, 2015 I wouldn't even say Brienne is transgendered. She's never given any hint of hating her breasts. She doesn't really spend any time thinking 'I wish I were male', in fact, Cersei dwells more on the whole 'I should have been a boy' thing than Brienne does. I think she's just unusual for her world, she's a female who is an excellent fighter, who prefers male clothing, and who wants to be taken seriously in spite of her gender. Agree. Arya also dresses as a boy and wants to be a fighter. It may be rare in Westeros but it does happen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steelborn Posted January 18, 2015 Share Posted January 18, 2015 Agree. Arya also dresses as a boy and wants to be a fighter. It may be rare in Westeros but it does happen. I think Asha is a hermaphrodite too. She wanted to be Balon's heir no matter what, the OP clearly opened my eyes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mad Madam Mim Posted January 18, 2015 Share Posted January 18, 2015 I think Asha is a hermaphrodite too. She wanted to be Balon's heir no matter what, the OP clearly opened my eyes. Asha boinks Qarl. No mention of manly bits. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheGreenseersOfWesteros Posted January 20, 2015 Share Posted January 20, 2015 Edit: double post oops Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheGreenseersOfWesteros Posted January 20, 2015 Share Posted January 20, 2015 I always thought Brienne was just a descendent of Sir Duncan the tall. Theres a theory on it somewhere. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Durran Durrandon Posted January 20, 2015 Share Posted January 20, 2015 While we are at it, i don't think the Mormont women are hermaphrodites either .Brienne is just tall and awesome. And clearly, Cersei is biiter about her lack of control over her life and Robert's repeated drunken rapes . As awful of a person as she is, she is also the victim of serial abuse. (And yes, of course, she is an incompetent leader. ) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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