Vee Stark Posted January 17, 2015 Share Posted January 17, 2015 Re-watching season 1 and came upon an interesting theory that may be a stretch...or not. In S01 Ep01 Cersei tells Catlyn a story about a son that her and Robert "had" that describes alot like Gendry. The story does indeed make Cersei sad, but I am wondering if either (1. she is sad because the child is still alive and she had to give it up in order to save him from Jaime? OR (2. she is sad because she believes this baby boy did die but in truth was hidden away by Robert or someone else? What also pushes me into the idea that it is Gendry was in S01 Ep04 when Ned is speaking with Gendry in KL, Gendry tells Ned his mom "died" when he was little and she had "yellow hair". Let me know what you think. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
knwoolf Posted January 19, 2015 Share Posted January 19, 2015 I am new to this site read all of the book series and watched all the tv series. Just starting to watch the tv series over again ready for s5.I thought exactly the same about Gendry.However, another theory I am starting to think about which may be stupid but what if Jon Snow isn't actually Neds son but Roberts son that ned has sworn to protect???? There is no reference from what I can remember only in the world of ice and fire in the family tree. Does any one else share this view or am I plainly just being stupid??? My gut instinct is telling me its stupid. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dsug Posted January 19, 2015 Share Posted January 19, 2015 That is interesting. I've always hoped something came of the story of their child. I always assumed Cersei killed it, and that she was just lying to Catelyn. But maybe your onto something Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
knwoolf Posted January 19, 2015 Share Posted January 19, 2015 Cersei also has all of Roberts bastard children searched for and killed so she would not have sent guards after gendry if she truly thought he was still alive. My other thought is that even if she believed he was alive Cersei would have him killed to protect hers and jamies secret (not giving away anymore incase people read this thread who only watched series) or would have him killed to protect tommens claim to the throne? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FreeParking Posted January 19, 2015 Share Posted January 19, 2015 Cersei also has all of Roberts bastard children searched for and killed so she would not have sent guards after gendry if she truly thought he was still alive. My other thought is that even if she believed he was alive Cersei would have him killed to protect hers and jamies secret (not giving away anymore incase people read this thread who only watched series) or would have him killed to protect tommens claim to the throne? Joffrey in the show had the bastards killed, not Cersei. Now Cersei's responses to Tyrion's questions about both the bastard killings and the attempt on his life were vague, but Tyrion perceived them to mean that Joff gave the orders. With Joffrey dead now, I don't see what the payoff would be to reveal that Cersei was behind them. There are two issues that I have with Gendry being Robert and Cersei's son. First, Cersei and Robert talked about their marriage in a scene in season one where she brings up the death of their child, so it must be true. Secondly, Melissandre informs Gendry that he is Robert's bastard in season three. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
knwoolf Posted January 19, 2015 Share Posted January 19, 2015 Fair point I am not that far up to reminding myself what happens in the show :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eddard Scissorhands Posted January 19, 2015 Share Posted January 19, 2015 I was just thinking about this today. I just can't shake the feeling that Gendry will have a significant role to play. No Varys involvement/switcheroo theories on this one? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FreeParking Posted January 19, 2015 Share Posted January 19, 2015 I do think Gendry will play a future role, but what that role is, where he shows up, and when he shows up are big questions that I can't begin to answer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wyman Manderly's Meat Pies Posted January 19, 2015 Share Posted January 19, 2015 I was just thinking about this today. I just can't shake the feeling that Gendry will have a significant role to play. No Varys involvement/switcheroo theories on this one? Robert thought the baby was dead, Cersei had Varys dump the baby somewhere or have it killed because she wasn't as bitter and evil yet and Varys let it live because reasons. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JonCon's Red Beard Posted January 19, 2015 Share Posted January 19, 2015 In show universe, could be. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Uncia Posted January 20, 2015 Share Posted January 20, 2015 I like that theory. Makes sense. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steelborn Posted January 20, 2015 Share Posted January 20, 2015 :mellow: I never understood the point of that Cersei's story anyway. I wonder if the showrunners had something in mind back in season 1. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cody Posted January 20, 2015 Share Posted January 20, 2015 I like the theory, it makes sense my only question is how would he ever find out or prove it? Assuming he ever tried to claim the throne. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cody Posted January 20, 2015 Share Posted January 20, 2015 double post Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lady Meliora Posted January 20, 2015 Share Posted January 20, 2015 I suppose that could be yet another non-canon addition in the show. It'd make as much sense as anything else they've changed/added. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fury Burns Posted January 20, 2015 Share Posted January 20, 2015 I thought this a long while back, and think they might replace Aegon with Gendry in the show, and make up a new Jon Connington to help him like he does for Aegon in the books. The actor for Gendry put a post on some social media that said "still rowing" or something to that effect, meaning he's still in the show and will play a part I guess. I think the part will be filling the role of Aegon, since I believe Aegon is a fake, D&D might already know if he is or isn't, and if he is a fake I don't think they would go through the time of making a new character just to find out he's a Blackfyre, who the viewers don't even know about. So I do think Aegon is out of the show and Gendry will fill his place, but that also makes me think Aegon will lose the coming battles for the throne, since they're just going to cut him and replace him with Gendry, which also means Gendry will lose... maybe... I dunno, just my little theory. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vee Stark Posted January 20, 2015 Author Share Posted January 20, 2015 No Varys involvement/switcheroo theories on this one?Good question...someone help me, but I think it was either revealed or hinted at on the show that it was Varys who smuggled Gendry away from his blacksmith boss, and "planted" him with Yoren to join the NightsWatch during the time the "bastards" were all being killed by the City Watch? If so, why would Varys be involved unless he knows something more about Gendry other than just being another of Roberts bastards? Idk... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Viperblood Posted January 20, 2015 Share Posted January 20, 2015 It would be really nice if this come true in the show universe. Joe Dempsie would be a charming king. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FreeParking Posted January 21, 2015 Share Posted January 21, 2015 Good question...someone help me, but I think it was either revealed or hinted at on the show that it was Varys who smuggled Gendry away from his blacksmith boss, and "planted" him with Yoren to join the NightsWatch during the time the "bastards" were all being killed by the City Watch? If so, why would Varys be involved unless he knows something more about Gendry other than just being another of Roberts bastards? Idk... Gendry just said that his master got tired of him. That is all we know on that front. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Dragon has three heads Posted January 21, 2015 Share Posted January 21, 2015 Show universe, it's possible he could stand in as young griff. I will be super disappointed if they do this though, cause it's a huge spoiler. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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