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A lot of people think that Azor Ahai is ultimate hero of Westeros. They think that he is the promised prince and the ultimate savior, the one who serves R'hllor.

-R'hllor has an arch enemy, the Great Other.

-R'hllor has a profit like figure in Azor Ahai

Therefore, The Great Other must have an anti-profit. "Otho Ozzi", Lord of Winter

The Drowned God is often proposed to be the same as the Great Other, who in turn in the same as the Old Gods. Therefore, he would be the Lord of Winter and the Sea.

Otho Ozzi should then be someone who embodies both of these traits: Theon Greyjoy. Born of sea, grew in winter.

Also, a lot of people think Jon is Azor Ahai, and Theon is pretty much just evil Jon, so it would make sense for him to be the Anti-Profit.

I think I'm pretty spot on with this, except for the name, but I made that up using similar lettering and using the letters of Other.

Theon will lead the Others on an assault on Westeros, only to be struck down by Jon Snow.

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(gods, not again)



First of all:





-R'hllor has a profit like figure in Azor Ahai



Therefore, The Great Other must have an anti-profit.



Also, a lot of people think Jon is Azor Ahai, and Theon is pretty much just evil Jon, so it would make sense for him to be the Anti-Profit.




Either Theon is making the North and the Iron Islands a hell of a lot of bank, or you meant the word "prophet".



Second of all: What?


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why is Theon evil Jon?

Jon is a bastard, Theon is pretty much a bastard in all but title. Jon leaves Winterfell and misses it, Theon leaves Winterfell, comes back and burns it. And, he gets beaten up by a bastard like Jon probably would've done to him too

(gods, not again)

First of all:

Either Theon is making the North and the Iron Islands a hell of a lot of bank, or you meant the word "prophet".

Whoops yeah sorry

Second of all: What?

Theon is the evil prophet of Westeros

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Jon is a bastard, Theon is pretty much a bastard in all but title. Jon leaves Winterfell and misses it, Theon leaves Winterfell, comes back and burns it. And, he gets beaten up by a bastard like Jon probably would've done to him too

Umm no, he's heir to one of the Great Houses of Westeros. That's about as far from a bastard as you can get. Being a hostage doesn't equate at all to being a bastard.

Apart from them both living at Winterfell I'm not seeing many parallels.

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Jon is a bastard, Theon is pretty much a bastard in all but title. Jon leaves Winterfell and misses it, Theon leaves Winterfell, comes back and burns it. And, he gets beaten up by a bastard like Jon probably would've done to him too

Ah yes. I am surprised I missed all these spot on parallels. Well done.

Edit: Ninja'd!

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Umm no, he's heir to one of the Great Houses of Westeros. That's about as far from a bastard as you can get. Being a hostage doesn't equate at all to being a bastard.

Apart from them both living at Winterfell I'm not seeing many parallels.

Both tried to achieve glory (Jon went to the Wall, Theon went to Pyke and then to Winterfell) but were disappointed (Jon became a steward, Theon's dad was mean). Both were taken in by Ned at the end of a war (Jon-Robert's Rebellion, Theon-Greyjoy Rebellion). Jon reaches his highest point when he becomes Lord Commander and Theon reaches his lowest when he becomes Reek

Ah yes. I am surprised I missed all these spot on parallels. Well done.

Edit: Ninja'd!

Thanks I thought they were good

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Othor Ozzi has a nice ring to it. How did you ever come up with it?



I can see the parallells between Theon and Jon, Theon being an anti-Jon. I've thought about it myself:



- Both are brought up as outcasts in Winterfell. Jon because he's a bastard, Theon because he's a hostage.


- Both are young men who are good at fighting.


- Both recieve less love than the "real" children.


- Both are heirs to a throne.


- After Ned dies, they split in opposite directions. Jon accepts his outcastedness (is that a word?) while Theon decies to avenge it. Jon becomes more and more succesful, eventually becoming Lord Commander and friend of Stannis. Meanwhile, everything just gets worse and worse for Theon, and he ends up being the most tortured guy in the series as well as one of the most despised.


- Jon ends up being sworn to celibacy. Theon ends up being physically unable to have sex.


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Where did the name 'Otho Ozzi' come from? Is 'Night's King' too mainstream now?

Nah those are two different things

is Otho Ozzi italian?

I was thinking more Valyrian

This is assuming R'hllor and the Great Other are real, and that's silly.

Fair enough

Indeed. Lord Paramount, by chance were there some floating..."veggies" in this soup?

Yes I put broccoli in there

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