Lord Paramount Waffle Posted January 29, 2015 Share Posted January 29, 2015 A lot of people think that Azor Ahai is ultimate hero of Westeros. They think that he is the promised prince and the ultimate savior, the one who serves R'hllor. -R'hllor has an arch enemy, the Great Other. -R'hllor has a profit like figure in Azor Ahai Therefore, The Great Other must have an anti-profit. "Otho Ozzi", Lord of Winter The Drowned God is often proposed to be the same as the Great Other, who in turn in the same as the Old Gods. Therefore, he would be the Lord of Winter and the Sea. Otho Ozzi should then be someone who embodies both of these traits: Theon Greyjoy. Born of sea, grew in winter. Also, a lot of people think Jon is Azor Ahai, and Theon is pretty much just evil Jon, so it would make sense for him to be the Anti-Profit. I think I'm pretty spot on with this, except for the name, but I made that up using similar lettering and using the letters of Other. Theon will lead the Others on an assault on Westeros, only to be struck down by Jon Snow. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TallTyrion Posted January 29, 2015 Share Posted January 29, 2015 why is Theon evil Jon? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reynestorm Posted January 29, 2015 Share Posted January 29, 2015 (gods, not again) First of all: -R'hllor has a profit like figure in Azor Ahai Therefore, The Great Other must have an anti-profit. Also, a lot of people think Jon is Azor Ahai, and Theon is pretty much just evil Jon, so it would make sense for him to be the Anti-Profit.Either Theon is making the North and the Iron Islands a hell of a lot of bank, or you meant the word "prophet". Second of all: What? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Paramount Waffle Posted January 29, 2015 Author Share Posted January 29, 2015 why is Theon evil Jon? Jon is a bastard, Theon is pretty much a bastard in all but title. Jon leaves Winterfell and misses it, Theon leaves Winterfell, comes back and burns it. And, he gets beaten up by a bastard like Jon probably would've done to him too (gods, not again) First of all: Either Theon is making the North and the Iron Islands a hell of a lot of bank, or you meant the word "prophet". Whoops yeah sorry Second of all: What? Theon is the evil prophet of Westeros Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TallTyrion Posted January 29, 2015 Share Posted January 29, 2015 Jon is a bastard, Theon is pretty much a bastard in all but title. Jon leaves Winterfell and misses it, Theon leaves Winterfell, comes back and burns it. And, he gets beaten up by a bastard like Jon probably would've done to him too Umm no, he's heir to one of the Great Houses of Westeros. That's about as far from a bastard as you can get. Being a hostage doesn't equate at all to being a bastard. Apart from them both living at Winterfell I'm not seeing many parallels. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reynestorm Posted January 29, 2015 Share Posted January 29, 2015 Jon is a bastard, Theon is pretty much a bastard in all but title. Jon leaves Winterfell and misses it, Theon leaves Winterfell, comes back and burns it. And, he gets beaten up by a bastard like Jon probably would've done to him too Ah yes. I am surprised I missed all these spot on parallels. Well done. Edit: Ninja'd! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Paramount Waffle Posted January 29, 2015 Author Share Posted January 29, 2015 Umm no, he's heir to one of the Great Houses of Westeros. That's about as far from a bastard as you can get. Being a hostage doesn't equate at all to being a bastard. Apart from them both living at Winterfell I'm not seeing many parallels. Both tried to achieve glory (Jon went to the Wall, Theon went to Pyke and then to Winterfell) but were disappointed (Jon became a steward, Theon's dad was mean). Both were taken in by Ned at the end of a war (Jon-Robert's Rebellion, Theon-Greyjoy Rebellion). Jon reaches his highest point when he becomes Lord Commander and Theon reaches his lowest when he becomes Reek Ah yes. I am surprised I missed all these spot on parallels. Well done. Edit: Ninja'd! Thanks I thought they were good Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Cactus Posted January 29, 2015 Share Posted January 29, 2015 ...I...I just... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Paramount Waffle Posted January 29, 2015 Author Share Posted January 29, 2015 ...I...I just... Do you think it is solid then? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reynestorm Posted January 29, 2015 Share Posted January 29, 2015 So was this theory also thought up over a bowl of cereal? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Paramount Waffle Posted January 29, 2015 Author Share Posted January 29, 2015 So was this theory also thought up over a bowl of cereal? No it was over soup Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reynestorm Posted January 29, 2015 Share Posted January 29, 2015 No it was over soup Ah. Chicken noodle? Cooked in a rather cracked pot? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Victarion Chainbreaker Posted January 29, 2015 Share Posted January 29, 2015 Where did the name 'Otho Ozzi' come from? Is 'Night's King' too mainstream now? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
H.P. Posted January 29, 2015 Share Posted January 29, 2015 Othor Ozzi has a nice ring to it. How did you ever come up with it? I can see the parallells between Theon and Jon, Theon being an anti-Jon. I've thought about it myself: - Both are brought up as outcasts in Winterfell. Jon because he's a bastard, Theon because he's a hostage.- Both are young men who are good at fighting.- Both recieve less love than the "real" children.- Both are heirs to a throne.- After Ned dies, they split in opposite directions. Jon accepts his outcastedness (is that a word?) while Theon decies to avenge it. Jon becomes more and more succesful, eventually becoming Lord Commander and friend of Stannis. Meanwhile, everything just gets worse and worse for Theon, and he ends up being the most tortured guy in the series as well as one of the most despised.- Jon ends up being sworn to celibacy. Theon ends up being physically unable to have sex. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JonCon's Red Beard Posted January 29, 2015 Share Posted January 29, 2015 is Otho Ozzi italian? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LordStoneheart Posted January 29, 2015 Share Posted January 29, 2015 This is assuming R'hllor and the Great Other are real, and that's silly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reynestorm Posted January 29, 2015 Share Posted January 29, 2015 is Otho Ozzi italian? It appears to be latin for "Otho Ozzie" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Cactus Posted January 30, 2015 Share Posted January 30, 2015 Ah. Chicken noodle? Cooked in a rather cracked pot? Indeed. Lord Paramount, by chance were there some floating..."veggies" in this soup? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Paramount Waffle Posted January 30, 2015 Author Share Posted January 30, 2015 Where did the name 'Otho Ozzi' come from? Is 'Night's King' too mainstream now? Nah those are two different things is Otho Ozzi italian? I was thinking more Valyrian This is assuming R'hllor and the Great Other are real, and that's silly. Fair enough Indeed. Lord Paramount, by chance were there some floating..."veggies" in this soup? Yes I put broccoli in there Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JonCon's Red Beard Posted January 30, 2015 Share Posted January 30, 2015 I was thinking more Valyrian Then wouldn't be Othis Oezzi? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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