Ser Taeser Celtigar Posted February 22, 2015 Share Posted February 22, 2015 Qohori steel is supposedly stronger than Westerosi steel but not as good as Valyrian steel. Do you think we may meet a character with a Qohori steel sword in TWoW? Or will someone acquire one? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bironic Posted February 24, 2015 Share Posted February 24, 2015 Tobho mott is from qohor. His steel work should be as good as any in Qohor.Like other Qohorik smiths he can rework Valyrian steel. He did just that with Ice. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leonardo Posted February 24, 2015 Share Posted February 24, 2015 Yeah this seems to be more about the art and craft of it than literally being strong enough to compare to valyrian steel, and may very well not be true, as Mott's work while good and exceptional in other regards doesn't seem to be that much better than other smiths work when talking of strength. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheSovereignGrave Posted February 24, 2015 Share Posted February 24, 2015 Yeah, it seems like the Qohorik smiths don't make better steel than their Westerosi counterparts. Their claim to fame is their ability to reforge valyrian steel. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
silvertone1484 Posted February 25, 2015 Share Posted February 25, 2015 I think it is pretty obvious that the fire from a dragon is needed to make the true Valyrian Steel. The Qohori seem to know a spell to rework it., meaning, the spell must cause it to retain some of the original dragon heat that is stored in the steel. This heat in the steel might always be why it can be used to slay an other. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vylarr Rivers Posted February 25, 2015 Share Posted February 25, 2015 Yeah, it seems like the Qohorik smiths don't make better steel than their Westerosi counterparts. Their claim to fame is their ability to reforge valyrian steel. Doesn't the world book say that the smiths in Qohor are superior to those in Westeros? And that they use blood sacrifices, which makes the steel better? I assume that the Valyrians used blood magic + dragonflame for creating valyrian steel and the Qohorik can rework valyrian steel through blood sacrifice + create a "worse copy" of valyrian steel because they lack the dragonflame. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aryagonnakill#2 Posted February 25, 2015 Share Posted February 25, 2015 ^It says the steal is better, and separately says the perform human sacrifices, the link is left to us to make, which I agree with you on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RumHam Posted February 25, 2015 Share Posted February 25, 2015 Do you think we may meet a character with a Qohori steel sword in TWoW? Or will someone acquire one? Maybe we already have? There's no indication that it also has the distinctive dark ripple pattern that Valyiran steel does. So it's possible characters have seen a Qohorik blade and not even noticed. Yeah this seems to be more about the art and craft of it than literally being strong enough to compare to valyrian steel, and may very well not be true, as Mott's work while good and exceptional in other regards doesn't seem to be that much better than other smiths work when talking of strength. Qohorik steel is said to be superior, but not necessarily stronger. Most likely it maintains an edge better than regular steel but not as well as Valyrian Steel. It probably isn't lighter like Valyrian Steel is, so there's no advantage in combat. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leonardo Posted February 26, 2015 Share Posted February 26, 2015 Yeah I'm going to chock this up to their steel being better than average westerosi, but Tobho Mott had apprentices and lives in westeros, as I imagine a few other Qohorik might, so there are definitely others outside of Qohor with the knowledge to make the same level of craft. It goes without saying Tobho ain't teaching them blood sacrifices hehe Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RumHam Posted February 26, 2015 Share Posted February 26, 2015 Yeah I'm going to chock this up to their steel being better than average westerosi, but Tobho Mott had apprentices and lives in westeros, as I imagine a few other Qohorik might, so there are definitely others outside of Qohor with the knowledge to make the same level of craft. It goes without saying Tobho ain't teaching them blood sacrifices hehe I actually read that part and then wondered "Did the spells Tobho used to reforge Ice require a sacrifice?" I really don't rule it out. We hear talk about unwanted children ending up in stews, Vary's Arbor Gold trade story (even if you believe it's bullshit, he wouldn't use it as a cover if it was unthinkable.) It's also possible that Tobho is/learned from a Qohorik smith who did not practice sacrifices and produced regular style steel. As you could imagine there were smiths in Valyria who only worked regular steel. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bironic Posted February 26, 2015 Share Posted February 26, 2015 Well perhaps Tobho was going to sacrifice Gendry, after all he has Kings blood... ;) :bs: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Man of Many Faces Posted March 26, 2015 Share Posted March 26, 2015 Vargo Hoat was from Qohor so I would assume that he used a Qohori forged weapon. Edited for spelling. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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