Jon Snow is the Mad King' s Son

[Black Dragons]

I believe he is product of rape because why all big secret ok if Rhaegar's was the father yes I see why, but Ned have NOT thought about the prince in years, if you are raise his son would you not think about the father once in while?. I think Rhaegar was trying to help Lyanna out situation that his father got himself into. This tie in what the actor who plays Theon said it Luke and Leia situation.

[DSB]

if my dad had raped a teenage girl and got her pregnant, i would send/take her to a remote location, provide elite bodyguards, then fight her fiance to the death without question.

but i cant play the harp.

[JPJK79]

Huge problem with this is the only time that we know of in the written text that Aerys was near Lyanna was at the tourney. Lyanna died two years later and Aerys never left KL with the exception of for the tourney. So no very unlikely he is the Mad King's son.

[DSB]

if the maeters had turkey basters, and liquid nitrogen, could anyone be anyones?

with fastidious care in distribution, a single nocturnal emission could father the entire realm.

disturbing.

[Jon Dovahkiin Snow]

If Jon is Aerys' son, consider me Miles Davis.

[Black Dragons]

Do you know that for a fact? who knows how long Lyanna was in King Landing? and what happen after Tourney? I heard lot different timelines of where was Lyanna during this time some people have said that she was kidnapped a year after the Tourney.

[Rhaenys_Targaryen]

Between the tourney and Lyanna's disappearance, a year passed.

It was Rhaegat with whom she disappeared, though, and nothing indicates that Rhaegar went to KL. He already kept his family away from Aerys, and tenstions between father and son were building and building. Nothing hints to the idea of taking Lyanna to KL ever crossed Rhaegars mind.

Ned had not thought of Rhaegar for years', comes after multiple times where Ned spoke of Rhaegar, and recalled the Trident. Rhaegar featured in those thoughts. It doesn't seem to be a matter of 'he hadn't thought about Rhaegar at all'.

And even if it did. Ned barely knew Rhaegar. It wouldn't be too weird for him to think about Lyanna when seeing Jon, and not Rhaegar.

[Northbound3.0]

I have come to the conclusion that Jon; is the product of a secert organization, hell bent on creating the perfect offspring and world domination. The really freaky part, is that his creation...has real world ramifications. GRRM is a former member of the ILLUMINATI and after years of brain washing, he has escaped their reach and is now trying to warn us, through his novels!

In Jon's world; the Others are a major threat to humanity and the leaders of Westeros hatched a plan to defeat them. Aerys, Ned, Brandon, Rhaegar, Lyanna and Ashara all gathered at Harrenhal to discuss the impending doom. Robert and Stannis were invited too. But Robert got to shit faced and Stannis got his feelings hurt, about something. So these brilliant head's of state all came up with a genius plan.

The men all ejaculated in to an empty wine horn of Robert's(Hey! Robert helped, after all) and Lyanna and Ashara each contributed an egg, each. Qyburn then took the wine horn shook it, until the contents were mixed thoroughly. He then took the two eggs and split them in two and spliced them together. Qyburn then rode to Winterfell and combined the contents of the wine horn and the super egg and then injected the results into the Ice Dragon(which have gestation time of almost two years), that lives beneath the ancient city. Jon was born almost two years later, thus creating a super Humragon. Now, here is where things go horribly wrong!

Jon will defeat the Others, as planned. However, during his time fighting them; he will become "self aware." Upon doing so, he uses his uber Humragon powers and summon Neo Bahamut from the outer reaches of space, who will in turn; knock a massive asteroid out of it's orbit....that slams in to the planet, killing all life. Now this is where GRRM's real world situation comes in to play.

From the northern, frozen, barren lands of Canada, a threat has been building. The threat of Canadian Pop Stars! Specifically Justin Bieber. The Illuminati(remember, GRRM was a former member), foresaw the coming calamity and created a super human, to destroy the threat. Her name....is.... Taylor Swift.

Taylor, after leaving country music and making the jump to full time pop star; will destroy the Bieber and rid the world, of his filth. However, like Jon; Taylor will become self aware and eventually, will the destroy the world with her "sick beats!"

http://youtu.be/nfWlot6h_JM

[SevasTra82]

Even GRRM himself has pretty much stopped denying the R+L=J theory when asked about it. At this point, It's the worst-kept secret in this entire series.

[Ferocious Veldt Roarer]

Oh, goody, yet another "I have a brilliant, even if totally unsupported idea, X raped Y". :ack:

This is a seriously, seriously unpleasant read. You know what? There are several sites on the Internet that will host your rape fantasies, and free of charge, too. You don't have to put them here.

[Northbound3.0]

At this point, It's the worst-kept secret in this entire series.

Well, it wasn't really a secert for the readers. It's been there for us to figure out, since the beginning. :-)

[Deadlines? What Deadlines?]

"I'm the Mad King's son and so is my wife!"

[JonCon's Red Beard]

Oh, goody, yet another "I have a brilliant, even if totally unsupported idea, X raped Y". :ack:

This is a seriously, seriously unpleasant read. You know what? There are several sites on the Internet that will host your rape fantasies, and free of charge, too. You don't have to put them here.

I think the theory is absurd, but it's not like believing a character like Aerys would rape someone is having "rape fantasies".

[J. Stargaryen]

Do you know that for a fact? who knows how long Lyanna was in King Landing? and what happen after Tourney? I heard lot different timelines of where was Lyanna during this time some people have said that she was kidnapped a year after the Tourney.

Lyanna was never in KL that we know of.

Between the tourney and Lyanna's disappearance, a year passed.

It was Rhaegat with whom she disappeared, though, and nothing indicates that Rhaegar went to KL. He already kept his family away from Aerys, and tenstions between father and son were building and building. Nothing hints to the idea of taking Lyanna to KL ever crossed Rhaegars mind.

Ned had not thought of Rhaegar for years', comes after multiple times where Ned spoke of Rhaegar, and recalled the Trident. Rhaegar featured in those thoughts. It doesn't seem to be a matter of 'he hadn't thought about Rhaegar at all'.

And even if it did. Ned barely knew Rhaegar. It wouldn't be too weird for him to think about Lyanna when seeing Jon, and not Rhaegar.

Ned had clearly thought about Rhaegar, but in his own mind he hadn't really thought about him, whatever that means. Though, like Lady Gwyn, I'm pretty sure it has to do with Jon's parentage; i.e., Ned hadn't really thought about Rhaegar as Jon's father in years.

Here is a link to her essay on the subject.

Oh, goody, yet another "I have a brilliant, even if totally unsupported idea, X raped Y". :ack:

This is a seriously, seriously unpleasant read. You know what? There are several sites on the Internet that will host your rape fantasies, and free of charge, too. You don't have to put them here.

Calm down.

I think the theory is absurd, but it's not like believing a character like Aerys would rape someone is having "rape fantasies".

This.

[Rose of Ice]

"I'm the Mad King's son and so is my wife!"

hahaha!

[The Mother of The Others]

It's settled then. Another puzzle piece falls into place.

[Ferocious Veldt Roarer]

I think the theory is absurd, but it's not like believing a character like Aerys would rape someone is having "rape fantasies".

Well, unless the author bothers with finding some evidence regarding Aerys and Lyanna, it's exactly that.

[JonCon's Red Beard]

Well, unless the author bothers with finding some evidence regarding Aerys and Lyanna, it's exactly that.

Look. I don't want to go into that kind of debate, but you come up a bit rude assuming that implying a character could have raped someone (and we know Aerys was sexually violent) is saying that the poster has rape fantasies. It's the same as saying that wanting X character to kill Y means the one postulating the theory is secretly a vicious murderer. I'm all of Cersei going and burning KL. Does that mean I have fantasies in which my city burns to the ground and everybody dies screaming? Saying that is kind of insulting. This is not about the possibility of Aerys abusing someone (which text indicates is not) but saying something negative about the one posting the theory. It's not the first time a poster makes a mistake about a timeline. Telling them "you're wrong" because this or that is enough.

[Ferocious Veldt Roarer]

Look. I don't want to go into that kind of debate, but you come up a bit rude assuming that implying a character could have raped someone (and we know Aerys was sexually violent) is saying that the poster has rape fantasies. It's the same as saying that wanting X character to kill Y means the one postulating the theory is secretly a vicious murderer.

How on Earth? How could you possibly make that leap?

OK, you wish to use an analogy. Fine. Let's do it right, simply substitute "rape" with "murder" and what do we get? That's right, "murder fantasies". Not "being a (vicious) murderer". Very different things.

I'm not implying anything, I'm stating a fact. It has no basis in the text, hence it's just fantasy. It's about rape. So, "rape fantasy". That's what this "theory" is. No more, no less.

[JonCon's Red Beard]

I'm ending it here, because this conversation is ridiculous, tbh.