Red Rahloo Connington Posted February 24, 2015 Share Posted February 24, 2015 Was Robb Planning on having Catelyn marry again after the red wedding? I just finished reading the chapter in ASOS where Robb tells her that he is naming Jon his heir and that she is to go to Seaguard with Jason Mallister. Does anyone think he was hoping that she would find Jason or his son Patrek Mallister suitable for marriage? Catelyn is still fairly young. At least young enough to have more children, and in the same chapter she goes on in detail about how Jason Mallister is older but still very handsome. Also, and this is just far fetched speculation. Do any of you think it's possible that Robb wants her to marry Jon Snow? I mean she objects to Robb naming Jon his heir, stating that if he were to legitimize Jon, none of Robb's children seats will be secure. What if Robb proposed that she marry Jon and in doing so assuring that the Tully/Riverland alliance with the North survives through Catelyn even if Robb doesn't (we all know the Tullys dont like Jon). I think her argument that Jon's children being contenders for the northern throne against Robbs doesn't make sense. If it were, then the children of all of Robbs other siblings would be an equal threat and more so that she believed Sansa would bare a child for Tyrion. Maybe Robb, to ease her mind countered that argument with "What if Jon's children were also yours." and that was the trap he caught her in? I know that this is now irrelevant being that both Catelyn and Robb are dead (sort of). Just something that came to mind while reading. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dejat Posted February 24, 2015 Share Posted February 24, 2015 Jon Snow and Cat? Lol If they marry would she be Catelyn Snow? Haha Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mikkel Posted February 24, 2015 Share Posted February 24, 2015 Planning to have her marry again? Eventually, he might. I sincerely doubt he would ever try to force her in any way, I mean it's his mother :ack: As for the Jon + Cat thing... no, just no. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King of Vaes Tolorro Posted February 24, 2015 Share Posted February 24, 2015 Was Robb Planning on having Catelyn marry again after the red wedding? I just finished reading the chapter in ASOS where Robb tells her that he is naming Jon his heir and that she is to go to Seaguard with Jason Mallister. Does anyone think he was hoping that she would find Jason or his son Patrek Mallister suitable for marriage? Catelyn is still fairly young. At least young enough to have more children, and in the same chapter she goes on in detail about how Jason Mallister is older but still very handsome. Also, and this is just far fetched speculation. Do any of you think it's possible that Robb wants her to marry Jon Snow? I mean she objects to Robb naming Jon his heir, stating that if he were to legitimize Jon, none of Robb's children seats will be secure. What if Robb proposed that she marry Jon and in doing so assuring that the Tully/Riverland alliance with the North survives through Catelyn even if Robb doesn't (we all know the Tullys dont like Jon). I think her argument that Jon's children being contenders for the northern throne against Robbs doesn't make sense. If it were, then the children of all of Robbs other siblings would be an equal threat and more so that she believed Sansa would bare a child for Tyrion. Maybe Robb, to ease her mind countered that argument with "What if Jon's children were also yours." and that was the trap he caught her in? I know that this is now irrelevant being that both Catelyn and Robb are dead (sort of). Just something that came to mind while reading. No, this is what we call crackpot. Insane also works. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boarsbane Posted February 24, 2015 Share Posted February 24, 2015 He might of been thinking about a marriage with Jason Mallister but definitely not Jon Snow. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red Rahloo Connington Posted February 24, 2015 Author Share Posted February 24, 2015 No, this is what we call crackpot. Insane also works.Well, I called it speculation for a reason. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Petyr's Little Finger Posted February 24, 2015 Share Posted February 24, 2015 Don't think Robb would think about his mother marrying anyone let alone Jon Snow. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red Rahloo Connington Posted February 24, 2015 Author Share Posted February 24, 2015 Planning to have her marry again? Eventually, he might. I sincerely doubt he would ever try to force her in any way, I mean it's his mother :ack: As for the Jon + Cat thing... no, just no.Well Cat is a woman in her mid 30s. She doesn't have many birthing years left, so I doubt he would wait too long. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red Rahloo Connington Posted February 24, 2015 Author Share Posted February 24, 2015 Don't think Robb would think about his mother marrying anyone let alone Jon Snow. Why not? She could be useful in building alliances. You're telling me that Robb Stark who was okay with giving up his sisters lives for the the kingslayers is going to draw the line at letting his mother re-marry? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AryaWinchester Posted February 24, 2015 Share Posted February 24, 2015 I don't think Robb would have forced the issue like Tywin did, and I find it hard to believe she would want to re-marry after Ned. If it was neccessary for an alliance, she might though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Lannister Posted February 24, 2015 Share Posted February 24, 2015 The only scenario in which I could see Robb forcing Catelyn to marry is if it was to secure an alliance or something for the North. Beyond that, I think he'd just let her be free to seek whatever she wanted, if anything at all. As for Jon and Catelyn? I couldn't think of anything better calculated to make them both hate Robb forever. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mikkel Posted February 24, 2015 Share Posted February 24, 2015 Well Cat is a woman in her mid 30s. She doesn't have many birthing years left, so I doubt he would wait too long. Maybe because he might feel Cat has earned to right to choose for herself the second time around, rather than force the issue? I mean she has done everything that could be expected of any noblewoman, giving birth to no less than five children. IIRC this somewhat mimics what Cersei was arguing for with Tywin, but she did have a point. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Make Shadowbabies Not War Posted February 24, 2015 Share Posted February 24, 2015 If she consented, it would actually be quite a good idea to marry her to a river lord. The John Snow thing is something Robb would never make her do though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lee-Sensei Posted February 24, 2015 Share Posted February 24, 2015 The only scenario in which I could see Robb forcing Catelyn to marry is if it was to secure an alliance or something for the North. Beyond that, I think he'd just let her be free to seek whatever she wanted, if anything at all. Catelyn Tully Stark Frey, the ninth Lady Frey? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Lannister Posted February 24, 2015 Share Posted February 24, 2015 Catelyn Tully Syark Frey, the ninth Lady Frey? Yeah, I could picture Walder doing that to literally screw over those who wronged him. How much more horrifying would it be if Catelyn had to endure a wedding night with Walder only to have him "Heh" open his balcony door or something to give her a view of the slaughter in progress? Not to mention I think a parallel story arc of Cat in captivity not unlike what Joffrey did to Sansa would be a nice touch and more interesting than the Lady Stoneheart arc. Oh well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mino Posted February 24, 2015 Share Posted February 24, 2015 Also, and this is just far fetched speculation. Do any of you think it's possible that Robb wants her to marry Jon Snow? I mean she objects to Robb naming Jon his heir, stating that if he were to legitimize Jon, none of Robb's children seats will be secure. What if Robb proposed that she marry Jon and in doing so assuring that the Tully/Riverland alliance with the North survives through Catelyn even if Robb doesn't (we all know the Tullys dont like Jon). I think her argument that Jon's children being contenders for the northern throne against Robbs doesn't make sense. If it were, then the children of all of Robbs other siblings would be an equal threat and more so that she believed Sansa would bare a child for Tyrion. Maybe Robb, to ease her mind countered that argument with "What if Jon's children were also yours." and that was the trap he caught her in? I know that this is now irrelevant being that both Catelyn and Robb are dead (sort of). Just something that came to mind while reading. Go to bed. You're drunk. :P Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShadowCat Rivers Posted February 24, 2015 Share Posted February 24, 2015 I think that a marriage to Jason Mallister is very much implied. Now, I don't think he would force her, but there would be some (genteel) pressure, to be sure... Anyway, she was supposed to stay at Seaguard, under what in truth is castle confinement. Now, the crackship Cat / Jon Snow... No, I don't think Robb is creepy enough for that :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
James Arryn Posted February 24, 2015 Share Posted February 24, 2015 Don't think robb hates Jon or Cat enough to force that, no. Lol. Cat marrying overall's possible, but I don't think it's in the forefront of his mind at the time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mithras Posted February 24, 2015 Share Posted February 24, 2015 With enough dreamwine, Jon would look like the Young Ned. Just saying :hat: ETA: and he has a Lord's kiss. ETA 2: By all accounts, Old Ned was dull in the bed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SeanF Posted February 24, 2015 Share Posted February 24, 2015 By the time of the Red Wedding, Catelyn and Robb were on poor terms. Essentially, she was going to be sent into house arrest at Seagard. I still see no reason why he would want to force her to marry Jon Snow, something that neither of them would want. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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