Bendubz Posted March 20, 2015 Share Posted March 20, 2015 Just wondering what religious views everybody has and why they have them. Please don't hate on people because of their beliefs, it doesn't affect you and it's very childish. Right I'll start. I believe in the Greek/Roman gods. I say Greek/Roman and not just one because they are very similar and minus a couple of changes (EG Athena = Tactical Warfare but Minerva = Wisdom) the Roman equivalents are just stolen from the Ancient Greeks. I believe this because it makes more logical sense that there is one God for each separate thing than one to control it all, and it is IMO, though I may be wrong, illogical to believe that there is nothing. Also as the Ancient Greeks were one of the earliest civilisations, and a lot of the legends we know now are based around their gods and children (12 Labours of Heracles, Trojan Horse etc.). Obviously science has proven some of the initial beliefs wrong, such as Apollo/Helios pulling the sun across the sky in a chariot, but it's not like that was the only job Apollo had in the stories, he is still the god of the arts. And the technological advances we have seen can still be connected to the gods, like the link between Mobile phones and the goddess Iris. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
baxus Posted March 20, 2015 Share Posted March 20, 2015 I'm an atheist/agnostic.I don't think there is a bearded man in the sky who created us in his own image, nor that Mohammad really spread the word of God, nor that I'd be reincarnated as a worm or an eagle or an octopus depending on my actions in this lifetime etc. On the other hand, I don't hate or ridicule people if they choose to believe in any of those options or any other for that matter, as long as they don't start with "holier than thou" attitude and preaching to me. My belief is that science has the answer, not religion and that we should invest our efforts in experiments instead of prayer and build research institutes instead of churches/mosques/synagogues/altars/etc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ser Scot A Ellison Posted March 20, 2015 Share Posted March 20, 2015 Baxus,How can science answer questions about which, of necessity, no data experimential or observational can become available? I'm not arguing "God of the Gaps" I'm pointing out that as valuable as science is it is as limited as any other human construct.One of my favorite quotes is that, "the Universe is not only stranger than we image, it is stranger than we can imagne". I agree with David Deutsch to this extent, human knowledge will always stand at "the beginning of infinity".:) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Errant Bard Posted March 20, 2015 Share Posted March 20, 2015 How can science answer questions about which, of necessity, no data experimential or observational can become available?Scot, are you denying the validity of your sacred texts? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nymeria10k Posted March 20, 2015 Share Posted March 20, 2015 I'm a muslim. I have my own beliefs, some people will agree and some people will disagree. That is fine. I respect everyone's belief and everyone has the right to believe (or lack of belief) as they wish :) It's enforcing one's belief on another person believing that theirs is superior that I don't agree with. It is one thing to inform people who are interested and another to force them. Although sometimes the line is hard to draw and the distinction between information and coercion can become blurred. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hello World Posted March 20, 2015 Share Posted March 20, 2015 Inverse Firism. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ser Scot A Ellison Posted March 20, 2015 Share Posted March 20, 2015 EB,No. They aren't hypothesises. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ser Flowers Posted March 20, 2015 Share Posted March 20, 2015 I was raised by a Christian family but by 16 I had become agnostic. I have issues believing in a single all knowing Creator. I just recently actually started reading Buddhist text and am very seriously thinking of converting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bendubz Posted March 20, 2015 Author Share Posted March 20, 2015 I'm a muslim. I have my own beliefs, some people will agree and some people will disagree. That is fine. I respect everyone's belief and everyone has the right to believe (or lack of belief) as they wish :) It's enforcing one's belief on another person believing that theirs is superior that I don't agree with. It is one thing to inform people who are interested and another to force them. Although sometimes the line is hard to draw and the distinction between information and coercion can become blurred. ^this. The I Agree emoji does not do how correct you are justice. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ser Scot A Ellison Posted March 20, 2015 Share Posted March 20, 2015 Nymeria,t's enforcing one's belief on another person believing that theirs is superior that I don't agree with. It is one thing to inform people who are interested and another to force them. Although sometimes the line is hard to draw and the distinction between information and coercion can become blurred.Well said. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deleted01 Posted March 20, 2015 Share Posted March 20, 2015 I'm agnostic/atheist, having never been fully introduced to or impressed by any religion. However, I'm still open to the idea of my belief (or lack of) being proved wrong. I like the Greek/Roman/Viking stories, and enjoy hearing about most religions, but none of them are for me. And agree with Nymeria. I'm always keen to hear about different religions and cultures, but I don't expect someone to attempt to convert me. Satisfy my curiosity, if you wouldn't mind, and accept that people have different beliefs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
matt b Posted March 20, 2015 Share Posted March 20, 2015 I'm a card carrying member of the Church of the SubGenius, followers of J.R. "Bob" Dobbs. It combines religions, cults, get rich quick schemes, self help books, Lovecraftian nightmares, and conspiracy theories into one big joke. We pull the wool over our own eyes because no matter what system you subscribe to, you're going to get screwed, so why not have a say in how? Some ways can be fun! Seriously, though, I'm an atheist. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Larry of the Lawn Posted March 20, 2015 Share Posted March 20, 2015 Inverse Firism. I worship the spaces between the gods. But really, agnostic atheist. I believe in AAA, Western Union, and bigfoot. I like the quote (think its Frank Lloyd Wright but might be John Muir) about "I believe in god and I spell it n-a-t-u-r-e)." And Bob Braudis: "life is a gradual release from ignorance." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Egalitarianism Always Posted March 20, 2015 Share Posted March 20, 2015 Baxus,How can science answer questions about which, of necessity, no data experimential or observational can become available? I'm not arguing "God of the Gaps" I'm pointing out that as valuable as science is it is as limited as any other human construct.One of my favorite quotes is that, "the Universe is not only stranger than we image, it is stranger than we can imagne". I agree with David Deutsch to this extent, human knowledge will always stand at "the beginning of infinity". :)If as I do you go with infinity, this means there is no God who could fulfill that, nothing can, even an infinity sits within a greater infinity, which sits within an even greater infinity and so on and so on and so on..... It is never ending. Atheism is an equally bunk concept because natural selection and evolution mean logics exist, and so with ethics, choice by an always limited sentient being. Nihilism is also bunk as it needs a limited sentient being to say "I am not omniscient thus everything I do is limited." Well you've actually made a choice so you've discredited nihilism by that act. The multiverse itself is limited as new universes are born all the time. What exists right now is not the sum total of everything. The true nature of all encompassing infinity is it is constantly creating new things, that is the nature of all encompassing infinity. A God can not be as they could not be something which is unbounded completely. If you limit God then they become an individual just like us, albeit one who has specific types of power. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Mance Posted March 20, 2015 Share Posted March 20, 2015 I belong to the church of at least pretending to follow the intentions of thread starters instead of belligerently ignoring their clearly stated wishes in the second reply to their thread. Just wondering what religious views everybody has and why they have them. Please don't hate on people because of their beliefs, it doesn't affect you and it's very childish. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andrew_ Posted March 20, 2015 Share Posted March 20, 2015 I'm a Movementarian. All Hail The Leader! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Weeping Sore Posted March 20, 2015 Share Posted March 20, 2015 Raised Unitarian, about 12 years as an Athiest/Agnostic, now Buddhist. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
baxus Posted March 20, 2015 Share Posted March 20, 2015 Baxus,How can science answer questions about which, of necessity, no data experimential or observational can become available? I'm not arguing "God of the Gaps" I'm pointing out that as valuable as science is it is as limited as any other human construct.One of my favorite quotes is that, "the Universe is not only stranger than we image, it is stranger than we can imagne". I agree with David Deutsch to this extent, human knowledge will always stand at "the beginning of infinity". :)Sure, there are things we can't imagine at this point in time, but there were so many things our ancestors couldn't imagine that are every day routine for us.Science does not have all the answers, and I don't think it ever will since every new discovery will raise another question or two or a thousand.It is, by definition, delving into the unknown and trying to push the limits of human understanding and imagination. Science is a human construct developed to discover the secrets of the universe.Religion is a human construct developed to give us answers some people agreed upone hundreds/thousands of years ago and which became obsolete a long time ago. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Larry of the Lawn Posted March 20, 2015 Share Posted March 20, 2015 The Mance, just really wielding the iron fist in the velvet glove with style and humor. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Mance Posted March 20, 2015 Share Posted March 20, 2015 My fan club is not a religion. Also, you're behind on your dues. :P Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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