voltron Posted March 25, 2015 Share Posted March 25, 2015 I think the Vale is the first place Dany is going to land first, and since Robin is unwed, do you think a possible marriage between these two is possible. Besides, Robin is looking for a mother and is he's no threat to Dany, and the marriage would give Dany probably 45-50k men, including many great knights and a lot of money. I think Littlefinger's plan gonna fail and Robin is going to survive. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lyannaisalive Posted March 25, 2015 Share Posted March 25, 2015 I think the Vale is the first place Dany is going to land first, and since Robin is unwed, do you think a possible marriage between these two is possible. Besides, Robin is looking for a mother and is he's no threat to Dany, and the marriage would give Dany probably 45-50k men, including many great knights and a lot of money. I think Littlefinger's plan gonna fail and Robin is going to survive. Robin is a child and is very weak and could possibly be dead soon making Harry Lord of the Vale. He is currently controlled by LF. I don't see how it would be possible for Dany to create this alliance with the Vale. I do know there were some Vale lords who stayed loyal to the Targs in RR but I don't think that will matter. If anything I think the Vale would back Robbs heir apparent, but I doubt that will even happen. Sansa will likely take control of SR if he survives Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
voltron Posted March 25, 2015 Author Share Posted March 25, 2015 Robin is a child and is very weak and could possibly be dead soon making Harry Lord of the Vale. He is currently controlled by LF. I don't see how it would be possible for Dany to create this alliance with the Vale. I do know there were some Vale lords who stayed loyal to the Targs in RR but I don't think that will matter. If anything I think the Vale would back Robbs heir apparent, but I doubt that will even happen. Sansa will likely take control of SR if he survives Tommen is only one year older than Robin, and is betrothed to Margery who is two year older than Dany. So Dany and Robin is very possible. Second, Littlefinger control Robin for now, but anything can happen. Maybe Sansa is the one who going to save Robin from Littlefinger, i don't know, just a theory, but i think the vale is going to support Dany, and Robin is the key. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lyannaisalive Posted March 25, 2015 Share Posted March 25, 2015 Tommen is only one year older than Robin, and is betrothed to Margery who is two year older than Dany. So Dany and Robin is very possible. Second, Littlefinger control Robin for now, but anything can happen. Maybe Sansa is the one who going to save Robin from Littlefinger, i don't know, just a theory, but i think the vale is going to support Dany, and Robin is the key. I just cant see them declaring for Dany. The logistics are to difficult. Why would Dany think they would ally with her? Why would she ally with Jon Arryns son when she hates the Arryns and knows their part in RR. Dany tends to let her emotions get the better of her even when they aren't in her best interest. And Sansa is to big an obstacle. I dont mean to come of as an a** I just dont see why or how Dany would get the Vale on her side. Edit: IMO what makes LF plan so mysterious is that the Vale doesnt seem to have any connections to on going conflicts. The north has Stannis, Boltons, Starks and the reach and KL has Lannisters, Tyrells, and Targs. ITs so hard to tell what part the Vale has to play because I just dont see any thing that will draw them in to on going conflicts unless LF wants to do it. The reach has Tyrells dealing with the IB. and the Martells seem to be heading toward Aegon. Everybody is making some kind of move except the Vale at this point Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NOT A TARG I SWEAR Posted March 25, 2015 Share Posted March 25, 2015 We could always get SR some blue hair dye. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lyannaisalive Posted March 25, 2015 Share Posted March 25, 2015 Actually I take that back. I could see the Vale in a war against Aegon and Dany arriving so I could see them rallying to Danys side but even that would be unlikely Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lee-Sensei Posted March 25, 2015 Share Posted March 25, 2015 I just cant see them declaring for Dany. The logistics are to difficult. Why would Dany think they would ally with her? Why would she ally with Jon Arryns son when she hates the Arryns and knows their part in RR. Dany tends to let her emotions get the better of her even when they aren't in her best interest. And Sansa is to big an obstacle. I dont mean to come of as an a** I just dont see why or how Dany would get the Vale on her side. Edit: IMO what makes LF plan so mysterious is that the Vale doesnt seem to have any connections to on going conflicts. The north has Stannis, Boltons, Starks and the reach and KL has Lannisters, Tyrells, and Targs. ITs so hard to tell what part the Vale has to play because I just dont see any thing that will draw them in to on going conflicts unless LF wants to do it. The reach has Tyrells dealing with the IB. and the Martells seem to be heading toward Aegon. Everybody is making some kind of move except the Vale at this point How is Sansa a big obstacle? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lyannaisalive Posted March 25, 2015 Share Posted March 25, 2015 How is Sansa a big obstacle? Dany hates the Starks. at some point her identity will be revealed and its believed some already know. If Sansa controls SR at some point what the chances of a Sansa/Dany alliance. Not to mention dany wants to destroy the Arryns and Starks for their part in RR and Dany has been known to let emotions overrule good judgement. I think that will be Danys ultimate downfall Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
voltron Posted March 25, 2015 Author Share Posted March 25, 2015 I just cant see them declaring for Dany. The logistics are to difficult. Why would Dany think they would ally with her? Why would she ally with Jon Arryns son when she hates the Arryns and knows their part in RR. Dany tends to let her emotions get the better of her even when they aren't in her best interest. And Sansa is to big an obstacle. I dont mean to come of as an a** I just dont see why or how Dany would get the Vale on her side. Edit: IMO what makes LF plan so mysterious is that the Vale doesnt seem to have any connections to on going conflicts. The north has Stannis, Boltons, Starks and the reach and KL has Lannisters, Tyrells, and Targs. ITs so hard to tell what part the Vale has to play because I just dont see any thing that will draw them in to on going conflicts unless LF wants to do it. The reach has Tyrells dealing with the IB. and the Martells seem to be heading toward Aegon. Everybody is making some kind of move except the Vale at this point Robin, Sansa and Dany have no history, none of them were present during the rebellion, so i don't see the problem with an alliance, i'm sure Dany and Sansa can share some history and pain, and Robin is too young to understand what's going on. Once Dany land in Westeros, she will have no choice to stop this rhetoric of usurpers because this will serve her no purpose for alliance. Once thing for sure, the vale has no reason to go to war unless Robin is in danger or betrothed to Dany. And Dany would be very dumb to skip this occasion, the vale army is stronger than Dorne. And i don't believe Littlefinger will succeed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lyannaisalive Posted March 25, 2015 Share Posted March 25, 2015 Robin, Sansa and Dany have no history, none of them were present during the rebellion, so i don't see the problem with an alliance, i'm sure Dany and Sansa can share some history and pain, and Robin is too young to understand what's going on. Once Dany land in Westeros, she will have no choice to stop this rhetoric of usurpers because this will serve her no purpose for alliance. Once thing for sure, the vale has no reason to go to war unless Robin is in danger or betrothed to Dany. And Dany would be very dumb to skip this occasion, the vale army is stronger than Dorne. And i don't believe Littlefinger will succeed. Dany HATES the "usurpers". She has said she will take revenge on those who destroyed her family even after learning of the deaths of Ned, Robert and Jon. Unless someone like Barriston finally gets through to Dany I dont see her suddenly be willing to forgive and accept them as allies. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ViserionsFire Posted March 25, 2015 Share Posted March 25, 2015 Dany hates the Starks. at some point her identity will be revealed and its believed some already know. If Sansa controls SR at some point what the chances of a Sansa/Dany alliance. Not to mention dany wants to destroy the Arryns and Starks for their part in RR and Dany has been known to let emotions overrule good judgement. I think that will be Danys ultimate downfall If Tyrion is with Dany, it would be interesting to see how he, Sansa and Littlefinger all get along. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lyannaisalive Posted March 25, 2015 Share Posted March 25, 2015 If Tyrion is with Dany, it would be interesting to see how he, Sansa and Littlefinger all get along. wow allow me to eat crow. I COMPLETELY forgot the possible Tyrion connection. I still dont think its likely but if does happen it will have to go through Tyrion. Possibly he is the one to break through her hatred and make her see the truth of RR. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lee-Sensei Posted March 25, 2015 Share Posted March 25, 2015 Has she said she wants to kill the descendants of the Usurpers dogs? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lyannaisalive Posted March 25, 2015 Share Posted March 25, 2015 Has she said she wants to kill the descendants of the Usurpers dogs? she wants to destroy their houses. She knows they are dead but she continues to speak about them and destroying those who betrayed her family. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hodor the Articulate Posted March 25, 2015 Share Posted March 25, 2015 she wants to destroy their houses. She knows they are dead but she continues to speak about them and destroying those who betrayed her family. Can we stop this with this? It's JonCon that wants to "Castamere" the usurpers; Dany has never even thought about their families. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ser Creighton Posted March 25, 2015 Share Posted March 25, 2015 Has she said she wants to kill the descendants of the Usurpers dogs?Well she did not appear to like Joff from what Selmy had told her about him, the young Usurper, but that just proves she is normal. I keep telling people she will not be in Westeros for some time yet, there is just to much for Martin to conver in Essos with her and still to many plots and sub plots going on in Westeros, that need to resolve first. He can't make bigger and bigger knots. It is not her time to be there just yet, we are seeing the end of a lot of different sub plots begining to form even FAegon, people sometimes think it's just getting started with him, but he is actually just part of Varys' plan which goes back to thrones. The long night will have set in before she arrives and Westeros will be a giant mess when she gets there. Even if she marched now it would take her 6 months or more to get there, probably a year.I doubt Robin is even alive when she gets there or that Sansa will be there if she is even alive. She may land in Dorne first as winter is already starting and she needs open ports to land troops. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AdmiralKyrd Posted March 25, 2015 Share Posted March 25, 2015 I think the Vale is the first place Dany is going to land first, and since Robin is unwed, do you think a possible marriage between these two is possible. Short answer... no, he's meant for a different queen. Hopefully he'll be the knight she's always wanted. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Good Guy Garlan Posted March 25, 2015 Share Posted March 25, 2015 Harry the Heir would be a far more tempting option, although he lacks the bonus of having blood connections to other Great Houses, as Sweetrobin does Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lee-Sensei Posted March 25, 2015 Share Posted March 25, 2015 Harry the Heir would be a far more tempting option, although he lacks the bonus of having blood connections to other Great Houses, as Sweetrobin does And he's not the LP. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Good Guy Garlan Posted March 25, 2015 Share Posted March 25, 2015 And he's not the LP.Yeah, that too, but I was thinking in the event of Sweetrobin's death Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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