Seaworth'sShipmate Posted March 27, 2015 Share Posted March 27, 2015 Stannis and Randyll Tarly have a lot in common: Both are harsh, stern no nonsense men who take don't take back sass from anyone. My question is, would Stannis have done a better job raising Sam, or would the end result have been the same? Im inclined to think Stannis would do a better job. While he is harsh, biting, and insensitive, he seems to have less of the deliberate emotional cruelty of Randyll, and is unlikely to say someone deserves to be raped. He is also more of a shrewd intelligent person, and more inclined to value people who aren't necessarily red-blooded, muscular, war-like alpha males. Unlike Stannis, I am not sure that Randyll is really all about "justice." He is not just as much as he is harsh and unmerciful, and doesn't necessarily think about giving people what their due. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GallowsKnight Posted March 27, 2015 Share Posted March 27, 2015 It's going to be better. 1. Stannis while likely a capable warrior is not obsessed with the martial traditions like Randyl Tary, Robert etc.2. Stannis feeling the way he does about Storm's End is not going to try and screw Sam out of his inheritance.3. Stannis has a healthy respect for maesters and history4. Stannis is not above utilizing people with less than conventional skills. His chief advisers are a smuggler and a foreigner priestess. I can see Sam being a lord like Rodrik the Reader. Wise. Knowledgeable. With his own type of non martial courage. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrandonStark's bastard Posted March 27, 2015 Share Posted March 27, 2015 I know he would have treated Sam better than Randyl. Too bad Stannis didn't marry Melessa Florent, instead. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shagwell Snow Posted March 27, 2015 Share Posted March 27, 2015 Stannis is intelligent enough to see Sam as no warrior early on and would then concentrate on Sam's intelligence,not saying it'd be an easy ride though as stannis can be sharp with that mouth o' his, but I can't see him being malicious.after all he's not a cunt with shireen.imagine tarly with a daughter like that? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dorian Martell Posted March 27, 2015 Share Posted March 27, 2015 Stannis and Randyll Tarly have a lot in common: Both are harsh, stern no nonsense men who take don't take back sass from anyone. My question is, would Stannis have done a better job raising Sam, or would the end result have been the same? Im inclined to think Stannis would do a better job. While he is harsh, biting, and insensitive, he seems to have less of the deliberate emotional cruelty of Randyll, and is unlikely to say someone deserves to be raped. He is also more of a shrewd intelligent person, and more inclined to value people who aren't necessarily red-blooded, muscular, war-like alpha males. Unlike Stannis, I am not sure that Randyll is really all about "justice." He is not just as much as he is harsh and unmerciful, and doesn't necessarily think about giving people what their due. This is what happens when an author takes 5 years to write a book Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eyenon15 Posted March 27, 2015 Share Posted March 27, 2015 Well he would have probably left Sam alone on Dragonstone while he worked in KL.Which would have been a million times better than Randys psycho shit.being around Patchface might give him some self esteem "at least I'm not like that guy" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Damian Posted March 28, 2015 Share Posted March 28, 2015 Sam is smart and very, very literate, he would be made Daavos's deputy administrator. The Hand's Hand sort of speak. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rhaeligar Posted March 28, 2015 Share Posted March 28, 2015 Stannis would be thrilled to have a son. Also, like others have said, much more likely to utilize Sams true talents. What a great older brother he would be for Shireen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tseka Posted March 28, 2015 Share Posted March 28, 2015 This is what happens when an author takes 5 years to write a book lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ser Creighton Posted March 28, 2015 Share Posted March 28, 2015 Stannis cuts off all Sam' fingers because he eats to much and he told him to lose weight. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Taenqyrhae Posted March 28, 2015 Share Posted March 28, 2015 Stannis would definitely realize that focusing on martial skill would not be wise, but he would not want him to become a maester, especially if he had no other male children. I think the primary reason Sam got fat was the abuse he suffered from his father, and having a mental block on enjoying physical activity, especially since so many popular physical activities at that time are the kind of thing Sam finds unpleasant. Sam seems to be good with maps and caring towards living things, he could be encouraged to spend time hiking through the wilderness mapping and cataloguing his father's domain. That with some steward-like responsibilities around the castle to keep him busy enough to miss meals when he's not in the field and Sam could become a very fit and capable man. He would keep him close and expose him to his future role as a leader from a young age, just like Ned Stark. I doubt Sam Baratheon would be very squeamish, as he would witness the justice of Stannis on a regular basis growing up. He'd probably be at least as good an archer as Theon as Stannis would be perceptive enough to pick up on his inherent ability with archery. He would be shaping up to be an awesome lord about the time Stannis sacrificed him for favorable winds or something like that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ser Belwas The Strong Posted March 28, 2015 Share Posted March 28, 2015 Well, it was not Randyll's fault that Sam was a complete lazyass kid, Stannis is all about duty, so he will not take that lazyness well, he will force Sam to do his dutys but ultimately will fail of course. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hos the Hostage Posted March 28, 2015 Share Posted March 28, 2015 Stannis is the man who posted Onion Knight as his Hand. And look what a badass Hand Davos is. Stannis will have raised Sam better, although if Sam had King's blood Stannis would have not hesitated to burn him, either.But take that away, Stannis would know exactly to deal with a misfit, himself being one amidst Robert and Renly's merry irresponsible ways. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Batbob45 Posted March 28, 2015 Share Posted March 28, 2015 is it sad that Sam would be better off at DS with Patchface than with Randyll. He would also get along with Edric Storm, Shireen,and Davos. Stannis read more books than his brothers and Sam is a bookworm. I do you one better. what if Brienne sided with Stannis over Renly, I don't see Stannis saying means thing like Randyll said to her. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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