The Bastard of Walton Posted March 30, 2015 Share Posted March 30, 2015 A Second Dance is supposed to be coming. Presuming it is between Dany & Aegon, which Westerosi Houses/Regions declare for who?At the minute the two complete powers left are Dorne & The Vale. It looks as if the Dornish may go for Aegon, The Ironborn have opted for Dany, The Reach seems ready to be spilt in two thanks to Aegons "friends", who would the deposed Lannisters go for?Interested in seeing who you guys think would side with who. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aryagonnakill#2 Posted March 30, 2015 Share Posted March 30, 2015 I don't think Dorne will go anywhere as a whole, I think we will get a reversal of previous Blackfyre rebellions where the Martells support the Blackfyre's but the Yronwoods support the Targs. I do think that Aegon will be popular at first mainly in the Reach and the Riverlands but that eventually Dany will get people on her side. The Vale will be Danys via Tyrion, and possible the Westerlands as well, as Aegon will hate the Lannisters. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aryagonnakill#2 Posted March 30, 2015 Share Posted March 30, 2015 I don't think Dorne will be a whole entity, the Yronwoods will throw in for Dany and the Martells for Aegon. The Reach will be Aegons as well as the Crownlands but Dany will get the Vale, Riverlands, Dragonstone, and Westerlands. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Krusty Kraken Posted March 30, 2015 Share Posted March 30, 2015 I honestly don't think there's gonna be a second dance of the dragons, there's not enough time, not enough dragons, and it would weaken the realm too much for the incoming battle against the others. We've already had a civil war of huge proportions. And I just don't know how it would advance the story, also I don't think Aegon's a Blackfyre either Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Bastard of Walton Posted March 30, 2015 Author Share Posted March 30, 2015 I don't think Dorne will go anywhere as a whole, I think we will get a reversal of previous Blackfyre rebellions where the Martells support the Blackfyre's but the Yronwoods support the Targs. I do think that Aegon will be popular at first mainly in the Reach and the Riverlands but that eventually Dany will get people on her side. The Vale will be Danys via Tyrion, and possible the Westerlands as well, as Aegon will hate the Lannisters.That would be interesting, Houses splitting regions, can definitely see it going that way. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Bastard of Walton Posted March 30, 2015 Author Share Posted March 30, 2015 I honestly don't think there's gonna be a second dance of the dragons, there's not enough time, not enough dragons, and it would weaken the realm too much for the incoming battle against the others. We've already had a civil war of huge proportions. And I just don't know how it would advance the story, also I don't think Aegon's a Blackfyre eitherSee I was of the same mindset, I just kept reading that GRRM had confirmed it, so thought I'd ask. Also I'm glad to see another member of TEAM AEGON THE LEGIT! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Krusty Kraken Posted March 30, 2015 Share Posted March 30, 2015 See I was of the same mindset, I just kept reading that GRRM had confirmed it, so thought I'd ask. Also I'm glad to see another member of TEAM AEGON THE LEGIT! Go ® Aegon!! I've seen the quote in which he is asked about the Dance of The dragons and he says that the first will come up every now and then and that the second will be the subject of a book, however, it was in 2002... Is there any more evidence supporting this second dance? It just doesn't feel like enough proof for me... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alex Storm Posted March 30, 2015 Share Posted March 30, 2015 Whoever wants to win will side with Dany Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Good Guy Garlan Posted March 30, 2015 Share Posted March 30, 2015 Off the top of my head (and assuming there'll be a Dance):Starks: AegonTullys: AegonSwanns and miscellaneous Stormlords: AegonMartells: AegonHightowers: AegonIronborn: DanyLannisters: DanyYronwoods: DanyVale: it's a toss up, but I think DanyCrownlands: DanyTyrells: neutral Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SeanF Posted March 30, 2015 Share Posted March 30, 2015 Off the top of my head (and assuming there'll be a Dance):Starks: AegonTullys: AegonSwanns and miscellaneous Stormlords: AegonMartells: AegonHightowers: AegonIronborn: DanyLannisters: DanyYronwoods: DanyVale: it's a toss up, but I think DanyCrownlands: DanyTyrells: neutralI don't think any tortures known to man would satisfy Dany if Jaime fell into her hands. Which would rather sour any alliance with the Lannisters.That's a pity, as both Dany and Cersei both place Rhaegar on a pedestal, and that could be a bond between them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gibzit Posted March 30, 2015 Share Posted March 30, 2015 Off the top of my head (and assuming there'll be a Dance):Starks: AegonTullys: AegonSwanns and miscellaneous Stormlords: AegonMartells: AegonHightowers: AegonIronborn: DanyLannisters: DanyYronwoods: DanyVale: it's a toss up, but I think DanyCrownlands: DanyTyrells: neutralThe Tyrells just really don't like dancing huh? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OmnomnomPomelo Posted March 30, 2015 Share Posted March 30, 2015 Well, I think the Stormlands will declare to Aegon when they march against Storm's End, then they take the Reach by power which is weakened by Ironborn attacks, and then Lady Olenna happens, proposes an alliance to Aegon and they replace Mace Tyrell with either Willas or Garlan (the one who will be still alive) as the head of the house and the Reach. Then Dany arrives to Dorne, Doran Martell will be really sad that Quentyn died and didn't marry Dany, so he would prefer Aegon and marry Arianne to him, but he allied with the Reach so Doran chooses Dany, who will march to the Stormlands/Reach to meet Aegon and conflict happens.At the upper part of Westeros Sansa backstabs Littlefinger and gets the Vale as an ally. They send message to the riverlords that Sansa claims Riverrun for herself, they riot against the Freys, overtake Riverrun, march to the Twins and the Others appear.The Westerlands are between a combined Vale+Riverrun, Stormlands+Reach, and King's Landing where Cersei is, so it will be a hard time for them, their army is a great one and well equipped, and then comes Tyrion, who gives Casterly Rock to Daven Lannister in exchange for the Western army's support, and thus Tyrion will be the wildcard in the game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LordFriendzone Posted March 30, 2015 Share Posted March 30, 2015 I personally believe the second dance of dragons will be between Jon and Dany. Aegon's just a distraction to make us think he'll play a role in the 2nd dance, when in reality it's Jon and the white walkers versus Dany and the Dragons. (And I know. "Jon + white walkers" doesn't make a lot of sense since the dance of dragons is supposed to be between dragons, but I'm still fully confident it'll be Jon vs. Dany somehow) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MakeThemBurn Posted March 30, 2015 Share Posted March 30, 2015 I have no idea what is the purpose of Aegon since I can't see that there's enough time for a Dany vs Aegon battle. Could be that Aegon simply manages to make half of the realm excited over Targaryens and quickly gets exposed as a fake and all those allies move to Dany. This would hasten Dany's invasion and GRRM wouldn't have to write another book just to tell us how Dany collects allies one by one.Dance of dragons imo simply refers to dragons being used in battle. It could be something as simple as the Others vs dragons.I'm more of a team "let's wrap it up", though. Dany moves to Westeros, quickly gets the throne and off she goes to fight the Others. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leonardo Posted March 30, 2015 Share Posted March 30, 2015 I don't think any tortures known to man would satisfy Dany if Jaime fell into her hands. Which would rather sour any alliance with the Lannisters.That's a pity, as both Dany and Cersei both place Rhaegar on a pedestal, and that could be a bond between them. Depends on how much Tyrion is able to reveal to Dany and if she listens Aerys was insane and needed to go. If she ever hears Jaime out on what happened, she'll know it to be true from her visions in the house of the undying. Jaime was there for the line "let him be king over cooked bones and charred meat", and if he says that I think it will click with Daenerys. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Holy Goat Posted March 30, 2015 Share Posted March 30, 2015 If there's a genuine Second Dance, I believe that Aegon, Daenerys, Tommen, Stannis and Euron are all important contenders for various thrones. Also, I'd say that the Second Dance of the Dragons has already started, only Daenerys hasn't arrived to the party yet. ASOS essentially ended the War of the Five Kings, with the Lannister sieges of Riverrun and Raventree being the last battles in that particular war (since thosetwo sieges were first mentioned in ASOS). The Dance began concurrently with the end of the War, and on several fronts, with the Boltons marching past Moat Cailin, Stannis marching from Castle Black, the Ironborn setting sail towards the Reach, the Lannisters making an effort to take Dragonstone and Storm's End, and Aegon landed in the Stormlands. Now, for how I believe the various factions will be grouped, at least initially... well, it's not very straightforward or clearcut like the WOTFK was, and as different contenders and other VIP's die there will be shifts in the political landscape. Daenerys Targaryen (Targaryen faction)House Arryn and the rest of the Vale.Most of the Crownlands but Crackclaw Point and Blackwater Bay houses mainly.Her Unsullied.Her sellswords (Stormcrows, Second Sons, Windblown)Her freedmen (Free Brothers, Mother's Men, Stalwart Shields)Volantese (slaves and the Fiery Hand?)Dothraki (Jhaqo's khalasar?)The Iron Fleet? Aegon Targaryen (Blackfyre faction)House Martell and the rest of Dorne.Most of the Stormlands, though some few will probably side with either Tommen or Stannis.Parts of the Reach, mainly House Hightower and their vassals, and House Peake, as well as some more like Tarly(?) and Rowan(?).The Golden Company.The Faith Militant. Tommen Baratheon (Lannister faction)House Lannister and the rest of the Westerlands.House Tyrell and others from the Reach, like Redwyne(?), Oakheart (?).House Frey from the Riverlands and House Bolton from the North.Most houses from around King's Landing (Stokeworth, Rosby, Hayford etc) Stannis Baratheon (Baratheon faction)The North mainly (barring the Boltons and their lackeys), as well as some Florents and crownlanders and stormlanders.Sellswords from Braavos?Perhaps the wildlings and the NIght's watch?Seriously though, I'm not sure Stannis will be that involved with the war. He might turn his gaze north and make common cause with the ones who defend the realm. Or he might die soon. Euron Greyjoy (Greyjoy faction)The Greyjoys and the rest of the Iron Islands. The Riverlands will be doing their own thing or coordinating with the Northmen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JonCon's Red Beard Posted March 30, 2015 Share Posted March 30, 2015 Depends on how much Tyrion is able to reveal to Dany and if she listens Aerys was insane and needed to go. If she ever hears Jaime out on what happened, she'll know it to be true from her visions in the house of the undying. Jaime was there for the line "let him be king over cooked bones and charred meat", and if he says that I think it will click with Daenerys. Yes, but I doubt Jaime will tell Dany his reasons. He's more likely to simply say "yes, I did it" and that's it. Look at his reaction when he faced Rhaegar in a dream. He was very much in tears, feeling guilty. And while Aerys was an asshole, he was Dany's father, and his dead caused her to suffer a lot. It's more likely he will see her as a second chance to not fail Rhaegar this time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lojzelote Posted March 30, 2015 Share Posted March 30, 2015 I kinda think it's possible Aegon will get a "surprise, bitch!" death before most people of Westeros even register that Dany's there. :dunno: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AryaNymeriaVisenya Posted March 30, 2015 Share Posted March 30, 2015 There will be a dance but it won't be as big as the Dance of Dragons. Aegon has the golden company, the Stormlands and Dorne. He will likely get the Crownlands too. Dany will get the westerlands, Iron Islands, her unsullied, freedmen and Dothraki Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JonCon's Red Beard Posted March 30, 2015 Share Posted March 30, 2015 I kinda think it's possible Aegon will get a "surprise, bitch!" death before most people of Westeros even register that Dany's there. :dunno: "Surprise, bitch... I bet you thought you saw the la---" *gets killed* Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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