OceanRunner Posted April 2, 2015 Share Posted April 2, 2015 Ok, gotta ask: I love Brienne and her storylines as well as reading her POVs but whats her importance to the series? I feel that you could take her character out after her returning Jamie and the story woukd go on unless she's needed for some important roll. I know she's going after Sansa but could you take her out and not rupture the story of asoiaf? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Posted April 2, 2015 Share Posted April 2, 2015 A lot of people seem to think she may be the Valonqar. Brienne the Beauty. Its possible. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Reaper oOo Posted April 2, 2015 Share Posted April 2, 2015 I liked her more pre-Jaime. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chrisdaw Posted April 2, 2015 Share Posted April 2, 2015 At base level I believe she was created because GRRM had too much for Jaime to do and wasn't going to fit it in. He couldn't have Jaime both becoming Tywin Lannister and looking for Sansa and so he split Brienne from Jaime and gave her the searching for Sansa role. There's no mention or even any allusion to Brienne in AGOT, her character arc is essentially Jaime's pre-Aerys, her Aerys is her leading Jaime to Stoneheart, a dishonourable deed done under difficult circumstances and ultimately for a greater good. Both swore oaths to Catelyn, and their journeys intertwine, GRRM pulls them together when he needs to, Brienne is like an extension of Jaime's will as she searches for Sansa. What her greater role will end up being? Well her womb seems conspicuously primed to be Jaime's legacy carrier, but she will become one of the finest knights in the realm, defending Sansa's honour in her trial of Seven, becoming a KG member and probably outliving Jaime in the war for the Dawn. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedShirt47 Posted April 2, 2015 Share Posted April 2, 2015 She isn't merely a McGuffen there as a plot device for a single purpose. But I think her two main impacts on the story are:1. Influence on Jaime. Jaime couldn't reconcile his oaths to protect the innocent and obey the King and thus had given up on being a good knight. Whereas Brienne who was never knighted acted as a proper knight and was a shining example to Jaime.2. World building. Her journey through the Crownlands and Riverlands introduced a lot of history, geography, characters etc. We get The Quiet Isle, Duskendale, Septon Meribald, The Gravedigger (if you spotted him) et al.This could well have been achieve rather more efficently with fewer Red Herrings but still...And this is before we get to LSH and BWB. There is still plenty of potential left in Brienne as a character. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Posted April 2, 2015 Share Posted April 2, 2015 She isn't merely a McGuffen there as a plot device for a single purpose. But I think her two main impacts on the story are:1. Influence on Jaime. Jaime couldn't reconcile his oaths to protect the innocent and obey the King and thus had given up on being a good knight. Whereas Brienne who was never knighted acted as a proper knight and was a shining example to Jaime.2. World building. Her journey through the Crownlands and Riverlands introduced a lot of history, geography, characters etc. We get The Quiet Isle, Duskendale, Septon Meribald, The Gravedigger (if you spotted him) et al.This could well have been achieve rather more efficently with fewer Red Herrings but still...And this is before we get to LSH and BWB. There is still plenty of potential left in Brienne as a character.I agree, Brienne has a huge part to play and she is an example for Jaime, she is everything he wanted to be. A female Arthur Dayne as it were. I'm sure by the end of the books she will be an even bigger hero than she is now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thelittledragonthatcould Posted April 2, 2015 Share Posted April 2, 2015 After the deaths of Stannis, Shirreen, Tommen, Myrcella and Dany she and her father will be revealed to be next in line for the Throne. She will have to marry for the good of the Kingdom. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PurpleLynch Posted April 2, 2015 Share Posted April 2, 2015 No,she's important. She helped Jaime with his inner change,plus her journey was instrumental to introduce new characters and places. Brienne has a lot of potential,personally I'd like her at the helm of Dany's Queensguard,after Barristan's death. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Modesty Lannister Posted April 2, 2015 Share Posted April 2, 2015 Someone has to give birth to new lions of the Rock. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Bastard of Walton Posted April 2, 2015 Share Posted April 2, 2015 I'd love to see a story arc involving Brienne,Jaime & The Hound teaming up to find Sansa.I think she definitely makes the endgame either way, she is one of my picks for POV survivors for the whole series. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chequy lion Posted April 2, 2015 Share Posted April 2, 2015 Brienne as an extension of the Jamie arc makes sense to me. I find her to be a critical character as she is truly honorable like so few are. She is very unique in that she has incredible honor and integrity, great loyalty and sincerity as well as genuine skill and strength in combat. And now she is armed and armored with great equipment. Despite all that promising stuff, she is very naive and has plenty of learning to do. Maybe she will even learn to forsake some honor to survive when required. She can learn some wisdom and tactics from Jamie about survival and getting results. Jamie can see someone who is truly what the Kingsguard is meant to be and learn to be how he should have been all along. . Side note, I'm a believer of the Ser Duncan heritage. As in, Brienne is a descendant of Ser Duncan the Tall. Anyone else? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PurpleLynch Posted April 2, 2015 Share Posted April 2, 2015 Brienne as an extension of the Jamie arc makes sense to me. I find her to be a critical character as she is truly honorable like so few are.She is very unique in that she has incredible honor and integrity, great loyalty and sincerity as well as genuine skill and strength in combat. And now she is armed and armored with great equipment. Despite all that promising stuff, she is very naive and has plenty of learning to do. Maybe she will even learn to forsake some honor to survive when required.She can learn some wisdom and tactics from Jamie about survival and getting results. Jamie can see someone who is truly what the Kingsguard is meant to be and learn to be how he should have been all along. .Side note, I'm a believer of the Ser Duncan heritage. As in, Brienne is a descendant of Ser Duncan the Tall. Anyone else?I actually like that theory. I'm not 100% sold,but I like it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leonardo Posted April 2, 2015 Share Posted April 2, 2015 It's all but confirmed.....Just look at the shield she picks up ffs lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mdw4950 Posted April 2, 2015 Share Posted April 2, 2015 im not that big on brienne but i do feel like shes going to have a big role in the endgame story line. unless she goes down in a blaze of glory kind of manner, i think shell live through the end too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Olligarchy Posted April 2, 2015 Share Posted April 2, 2015 She's the future Mother of Lions. Plus she's great for showing us around Westeros so she should change her name to Brienne the Travel Guide. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tyrion's Shrooms Posted April 2, 2015 Share Posted April 2, 2015 Try this excellent new episode of Radio Westeroshttp://radiowesteros.tumblr.com/post/115219017113/radio-westeros-e13-brienne-in-this-light-a Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luddagain Posted April 2, 2015 Share Posted April 2, 2015 The story line talks of about four "magical swords" as well as a number of Valyrian blades. We have Dawn to be wielded by Sword of the Morning - A Dayne We have Light Bringer (which may be Dawn from the name) We have ice - the original, to be wielded by a Stark We have Just Maid - an honourable Knight - i think this is Brienne Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sigbjorn Posted April 2, 2015 Share Posted April 2, 2015 Read the Astronomy of Planetos threads by Lucifer means Lightbringer. It's possible Brienne has some role to play in the whole Azor Ahai mythology. I won't go into the whole spiel, but consider this:- AA wielded a magic sword called Lightbringer.- The hereditary title of the Lord of Tarth is the Evenstar.- Brienne is the heir to Tarth.- Lightbringer and Evenstar were both names for Venus in antiquity. - Brienne wields a magic sword (I won't dive into the symbolism that equates the forging of Oathkeeper to Lightbringer).All credit to this theory goes to LML and contributors to the Astronomy threads. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A horsefaced girl Posted April 3, 2015 Share Posted April 3, 2015 Brienne is going to finish Jaimie's page in the white book for him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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