Mladen Posted June 11, 2015 Share Posted June 11, 2015 I confess I had no idea that Stannis/Agamemnon idea was so well-established in the fandom until episode 9 of the show came out... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Wolves Posted June 11, 2015 Share Posted June 11, 2015 In respect to recent show events, it has made it hard for me to really care about the future books. It really just seems that Martin has a fixation on making all of the sympathetic and likable characters suffer horrendously. At this point is starting to come off as just unrealistic as the stereotypical good guys always prevail narrative. Only less pleasant of a read.I agree Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dire Dawg Posted June 11, 2015 Share Posted June 11, 2015 My Confession: I hate Cat and all the Tullys. Well, I do like the Blackfish and can completely understand why he bailed on them. Bunch of jerks and morons that have no control over the riverlands. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Twenty of House Goodmen Posted June 11, 2015 Share Posted June 11, 2015 I'm starting to care less and less about Winds and Dream. Not liking where the story seems to be headed. Any hype I had for the Battles of Winterfell and Meeren is almost completely dead at this point. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Wolves Posted June 15, 2015 Share Posted June 15, 2015 My love for this series is seriously diminishing so much that I'm afraid that by the time WOW is out I won't care anymore :-( Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lost Melnibonean Posted June 16, 2015 Share Posted June 16, 2015 I met a gal today who had one green eye and one blue one. She did not look like Shiera though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Grandmaster Posted June 16, 2015 Share Posted June 16, 2015 I'm not unhappy Renly died. He was a fool who could have gotten a lot of people killed just because he wanted to play king, and had tried to jump the line of succession just because he could. If anyone believes Renly was in it for anyone other than Renly, then they are kidding themselves. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lost Melnibonean Posted June 17, 2015 Share Posted June 17, 2015 If Stannis sacrifices Shireen in his effort to save humanity from the dark, and if Jojen is paste, who is worse? Stannis or Bloodraven? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Isobel Harper Posted June 21, 2015 Share Posted June 21, 2015 Confession (sort of): Finally! I can review my Content history. It's been down for weeks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nihlus Posted June 21, 2015 Share Posted June 21, 2015 I read a bit about the War of the Roses today. fAegon seems like a pretty good counterpart to Henry VII, which makes me think Stannis is going to die in battle against him, as Stannis himself is a pretty good match for Richard III. On the other hand, GRRM compared Stannis to Henry VII, so no idea what's going on there. I feel like I should read more about it; all I know is the very minimum I needed to ace APEH tests back in high school. Seems like an interesting conflict. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lost Melnibonean Posted June 26, 2015 Share Posted June 26, 2015 As my two boys were arguing over whether Batman has super powers or could turn into a bat or had bat children, I was stuck by how similar their arguments sounded to our arguments in this forum. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Isobel Harper Posted July 4, 2015 Share Posted July 4, 2015 I blocked skbaba so I wouldn't be able to read his spamming in the forums. Didn't work. :crying: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
calo760 Posted July 4, 2015 Share Posted July 4, 2015 I have always wanted Jon and Danaerys to die more than any other characters. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ben H'gahr Posted July 4, 2015 Share Posted July 4, 2015 I cannot understand how people can have sympathies for Theon or Jaime. I wish them the cruelest death of all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Isobel Harper Posted July 4, 2015 Share Posted July 4, 2015 I cannot understand how people can have sympathies for Theon or Jaime. I wish them the cruelest death of all. I can understand their sympathy; I think that's GRRM's goal - to open up the possibility for redemption to "non-redeemable" characters, that is. I'm not so sure how these two end up as some readers' favorite characters, however. But one can enjoy a character arch, without white-washing their flaws or without liking a character on a moral level in and of themselves. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roddy Darwin Posted July 5, 2015 Share Posted July 5, 2015 I guess this might have been said before as I'm sure I'm not the only one around here, but...Sometimes I can't help but doubt GRRM is just the one person.(I mean I know he is, but that the GRRM we know and see at conventions really is the only person behind ASOIAF, just, you know?)I am a total fanboy to some posters around here, to the point where I'll sometimes read a theory and go "what? That's ridiculous" and then see them agree a few posts down and reread the OP cause hey, if they think it's good, it's probably good. (I know, this is terrible)I cannot understand how people can have sympathies for Theon or Jaime. I wish them the cruelest death of all.Well, I really love both of them. For what it's worth...Have you ever fucked up? I'm not talking about some minor lie, or inadvertently hurting someone you love. I'm talking real, massive fuck up that you just can't take back.And then you realize how badly you've fucked up, and you realize just how scary it is that you didn't even realize how terrible what you were doing was, and you know what? There's nothing you can do.You can try to be a better person from now on, you can try to fix some of the mess you've created, you can try to do right by some people that were affected by your fucking up, even though you know they will never, ever forgive you. But that's about all you can do.I don't whitewash everything Jaime and Theon did. They did some pretty fucked up things. I think the key, though, is that at the time, they didn't realize. Why rabbitskins? he had meant to ask, but being spat on had made him forget his questions.That's one of my favourite lines in the whole series so far. Theon just betrayed Robb, his childhood (and pretty much only) friend, invaded the North, slaughtered Benfred's whole group. And yet, he expects to just walk up to the guy and chat like they used to. You know? He doesn't have a clue just how terrible what he's doing is. He's just doing it.I'm not saying that makes his crimes any less terrible, I'm not trying to find him any excuses - another confession is that I love to do just that, though, and I think he has plenty.I'm just saying, sometimes, you do stupid things, and sometimes you do terrible things, just because you don't realize. And then you do. And that's a pretty terrible spot to be in, and GRRM writes about it wonderfully, and Jaime and Theon have not always been good persons, no, but I still can't help liking them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BRANDON GREYSTARK Posted July 5, 2015 Share Posted July 5, 2015 That the last book will be called A Time For Wolves . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dark Lord of Stygai Posted July 5, 2015 Share Posted July 5, 2015 I cannot understand how people can have sympathies for Theon or Jaime. I wish them the cruelest death of all. THIS. Jaime is an asshole. He pushed a kid through a window (possibly to his death), sleeps with his own sister, had kids by selfsame sister, kills Ned's men to "teach him a lesson", tried to killed Robb, and he STILL kept on working for a fake king when we last see him in ADwD. I'm supposed to feel sorry for him because his hand was cut and his sister no longer wants him? Boo hoo. I sometimes wish he was a character in Goodkind's books so he'd get the Mord-Sith treatment or his ass kicked by Richard, Kahlan and Co. He made me reference Goodkind, THAT'S how much I hate him. Theon too, only I think he's getting what he deserves with Ramsay and all. I also think that maybe Arya will be vital in saving a character during the Last Battle. Like, someone would be trying to kill Jon or Dany or something from behind their back while they're busy fighting White Walkers, and she saves them by killing the assailant. I also have a feeling that amidst battle, Dany is gonna get into a tough spot and thinks about giving up. Then she says :"I'm the blood of the Dragon. I will NOT die" or something equally dramatic. Dunno just a hunch. I kinda of also want there to be like 5 Melisander POV's instead of just maybe 1. I want somebody to gut Euron like a fish. I like Brienne, but her AFFC chapters were SO boring. Same for Sam. That's all for now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ahai Ahoy Posted July 5, 2015 Share Posted July 5, 2015 ^ Jaimie ain't that bad. He had good reason for pushing Bran. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Wolves Posted July 5, 2015 Share Posted July 5, 2015 ^ Jaimie ain't that bad. He had good reason for pushing Bran.No his reason was not good when it's his fault that he's in that situation anyways plus what's the excuse for trying to hunt Arya? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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