King Tyrion Targaryen Posted April 23, 2015 Share Posted April 23, 2015 In my short time browsing these forums, I have come across many a theory that are being widely accepted as fact. So I ask you, what if you're all wrong?What if R + L doesn't = J?What if Stannis IS AA?What if Aegon actually IS Aegon? What if Jaqen Isn't in Oldtown?What if everyone that is perceived to be dead ACTUALLY IS DEAD (Ned (can't believe this is actually a theory btw), Sandor, Jon, etc...) If everything in the story actually is how it appears, what does that change? Do we really need everything and their mothers to end up being a twist? Would the lack of a twist inherently become a twist then because we all expect there to be a twist (twistception)?ETA: The purpose of this thread is not to debate the validity of any particular theory (although I do enjoy hearing the defenses of some of them). The purpose of this is to discuss what plot implications would come from a generally accepted theory being found to be false. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheLightning Lord Posted April 23, 2015 Share Posted April 23, 2015 i will enjoy the nerdrage videos Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Ser Septon Maester Posted April 23, 2015 Share Posted April 23, 2015 Then we're wrong, I doubt anyone on this board will write off the series if their theories don't come to fruition. Gotta pass the time somehow. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheMaester Posted April 23, 2015 Share Posted April 23, 2015 One does not simply kill Jon Snow. The rest can be thrown out the window xD. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Ser Septon Maester Posted April 23, 2015 Share Posted April 23, 2015 I will add, borderline everyone on here accepts that Ned is dead. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Ser Septon Maester Posted April 23, 2015 Share Posted April 23, 2015 One does not simply kill Jon Snow. The rest can be thrown out the window xD.I doubt Jon is permanently dead but anyone who says "One does not just kill..." needs to remember it's George RR Martin we're dealing with here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mourneblade Posted April 23, 2015 Share Posted April 23, 2015 In my short time browsing these forums, I have come across many a theory that are being widely accepted as fact. So I ask you, what if you're all wrong?What if R + L doesn't = J?What if Stannis IS AA?What if Aegon actually IS Aegon? What if Jaqen Isn't in Oldtown?What if everyone that is perceived to be dead ACTUALLY IS DEAD (Ned (can't believe this is actually a theory btw), Sandor, Jon, etc...) If everything in the story actually is how it appears, what does that change? Do we really need everything and their mothers to end up being a twist? Would the lack of a twist inherently become a twist then because we all expect there to be a twist (twistception)? lol we can what if all day long, however those theories are pretty much fact... although Ned is most certainly Dead lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DJE Posted April 23, 2015 Share Posted April 23, 2015 I think the Ned's not dead is just wishful thinking, I don't buy into that theory. But, I don't disregard any theories until they are confirmed or denied. As for R+L=J, I think that the clues and foreshadowing to that are just too overwhelming for it not to be true. If it isn't true, it won't change the way I feel about the story. This is my favorite set of books I have ever read and have read them at least once a year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Corpse Sniffer Posted April 23, 2015 Share Posted April 23, 2015 Ned is dead AF, but I do think Aegon is a blackfyre. There is something big we don't know about him that'll be revealed the higher he ascends. Jon's death has prophecy written all over it, and if Stannis the Mannis is AA im certainly cool with that. Im cool with whatever happens because these books are AMAZING Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mladen Posted April 23, 2015 Share Posted April 23, 2015 We can't be all wrong, though ;) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Tyrion Targaryen Posted April 23, 2015 Author Share Posted April 23, 2015 I will add that I am definitely a believer in many of these theories (as my username probably suggests). I just wanted to spark some kind of conversation about the potential aftermath that would come from (for example) it is discovered that Jon really is a bastard. That would eliminate him as a potential head of a dragon and totally change a lot of theories about the conflict at the wall and how he will defeat the others. I'm not saying that I don't buy the theory (it is pretty convincing), just curious is all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grayce Hornwood Posted April 23, 2015 Share Posted April 23, 2015 I'm sure there are a lot of theories presented on these boards that will turn out not to be true. But, as stated above, there are some (Ned is dead, R+L=J) that can be taken as close to canon as possible. As with R+L=J, like someone upthread said, there is too much evidence supporting the theory for it not to be true. If the Mannis turns out to be AA, I will be surprised, but not upset. He's awesome. :laugh: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grayce Hornwood Posted April 23, 2015 Share Posted April 23, 2015 I will add that I am definitely a believer in many of these theories (as my username probably suggests). I just wanted to spark some kind of conversation about the potential aftermath that would come from (for example) it is discovered that Jon really is a bastard. That would eliminate him as a potential head of a dragon and totally change a lot of theories about the conflict at the wall and how he will defeat the others. I'm not saying that I don't buy the theory (it is pretty convincing), just curious is all. Well, if Jon turns out to really be a bastard, then that likely means he really is dead and won't be resurrected. So if he's not a secret Targ, that then begs the question of who are the other two heads? That then shifts the focus onto Tyrion (love your username, by the way), and would put it into new perspective that maybe, just maybe, he really is a secret Targ. But then who is the third head? Makes one wonder if Aegon really is who he says he is? Very thought provoking. ;) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KINGpanther Posted April 23, 2015 Share Posted April 23, 2015 I will add that I am definitely a believer in many of these theories (as my username probably suggests). I just wanted to spark some kind of conversation about the potential aftermath that would come from (for example) it is discovered that Jon really is a bastard. That would eliminate him as a potential head of a dragon and totally change a lot of theories about the conflict at the wall and how he will defeat the others. I'm not saying that I don't buy the theory (it is pretty convincing), just curious is all.I will be overjoyed if Jon turns out to be Ned's bastard. I dont want Jon anywhere near the Targaryen shit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JonCon's Red Beard Posted April 23, 2015 Share Posted April 23, 2015 "w--rong"?... what's... what's that? I don't understand. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kienn Posted April 23, 2015 Share Posted April 23, 2015 Everything is as it appears.Jon has 3 different mothers.Wait... Wouldn't that qualify as a twist itself? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DigitalCount Posted April 23, 2015 Share Posted April 23, 2015 I'm pretty much counting on the leading valonqar theory being wrong, so I'm hoping that's the case. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dragon Seed Posted April 23, 2015 Share Posted April 23, 2015 When the dust settles, 1/2 the people will be right and 1/2 wrong.The big question is will 1/2 the people who got it right actually get all of their theories right or maybe some other amount, like maybe 1/2 :idea: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedShirt47 Posted April 23, 2015 Share Posted April 23, 2015 GRRM will win the Troll tourney... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Viserys Targaryen IV Posted April 23, 2015 Share Posted April 23, 2015 We cant all be wrong, there are some crazy ass theories on here and if the common one are wrong then they would be right? Maybe? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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