Ser Scot A Ellison Posted April 24, 2015 Share Posted April 24, 2015 As the prior thread was almost at 400 anyway and there appears to be desire to discuss this again with the whole SP/RP Hugo kerfulffle, I thought I'd start this as an escape valve for this discussion.Were there really people who, after finding out about ROTH's harrassment and gaslighting, wanted to defend Benjanun Sriduangkaew's antics? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Reckoner Posted April 25, 2015 Share Posted April 25, 2015 It seemed like career suicide on his/her part. One thing to address an author's misrepresentation of one's politics, another to make threats and wish bodily harm on the individual (as opposed to educating them as to where they went wrong). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord of Rhinos Posted April 25, 2015 Share Posted April 25, 2015 Sriduangkaew just lost the British SF award for short fiction earlier this month. So despite last years outing she is still being nominated for awards. And there's plenty of SF authors that have rallied around her from day one of her doxxing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ser Scot A Ellison Posted April 25, 2015 Author Share Posted April 25, 2015 Here's a link to Laura J. Mixon's report:http://laurajmixon.com/2014/11/a-report-on-damage-done-by-one-individual-under-several-names/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lightysnake88 Posted April 25, 2015 Share Posted April 25, 2015 Frankly, I don't qite buy that to be 'doxxing' (Connecting one pseudonym to another). And I am quite disgusted at any writer supporting Sriduangkaew at this juncture. Stross doing it made me lose a lot of respect for the man. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Little Valkyrie Posted April 25, 2015 Share Posted April 25, 2015 Frankly, I don't qite buy that to be 'doxxing' (Connecting one pseudonym to another). And I am quite disgusted at any writer supporting Sriduangkaew at this juncture. Stross doing it made me lose a lot of respect for the man. IIRC Stross has been pretty critical of her--he was before the big report came out because of the whole "friending people under one persona who she'd slagged off under another", and then after he made some "live by the sword, die by the sword" comments. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ser Scot A Ellison Posted April 25, 2015 Author Share Posted April 25, 2015 Interestingly, Benjanun Sriduankaew is starting to push back at her detractors and is now openly admitting to having run ROTH:http://file770.com/?tag=benjanun-sriduangkaew Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lightysnake88 Posted April 25, 2015 Share Posted April 25, 2015 IIRC Stross has been pretty critical of her--he was before the big report came out because of the whole "friending people under one persona who she'd slagged off under another", and then after he made some "live by the sword, die by the sword" comments. News to me. He was pretty "eh, no big deal, gonna hold my nose and vote for her" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sologdin Posted April 25, 2015 Share Posted April 25, 2015 well, yaknow, that's the SP/RP claimed principle: textual merits irrespective of author's politics. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lightysnake88 Posted April 25, 2015 Share Posted April 25, 2015 It's not her politics I have issue with. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sologdin Posted April 25, 2015 Share Posted April 25, 2015 oh, sure, she's a dick. but she's our dick. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darth Richard II Posted April 25, 2015 Share Posted April 25, 2015 I don't think anyone here supported her AFTER the harassment issues came to light. There were certainly many defenders of her blog here though. It caused quite a...it was bad.Edit: I always thought Stross was against her, unless I missed something. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lightysnake88 Posted April 25, 2015 Share Posted April 25, 2015 oh, sure, she's a dick. but she's our dick. No, she isn't. We have to divest ourselves of people like her as well. Her pretensions to social justice were rarely anything but cynical manipulation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darth Richard II Posted April 25, 2015 Share Posted April 25, 2015 I think he was joking. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lightysnake88 Posted April 25, 2015 Share Posted April 25, 2015 Silly me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Little Valkyrie Posted April 25, 2015 Share Posted April 25, 2015 News to me. He was pretty "eh, no big deal, gonna hold my nose and vote for her" He did initially say that, but I think he changed his position to more critical as time went on. I admit that I'm still curious as to what the official biography of Benjanun is going to be from this point forward, because I'm fascinated by the high literary taste naif to SF/F persona she was presenting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cubarey Posted April 25, 2015 Share Posted April 25, 2015 Hmm, she seems to have included GRRM as one of those who have been "keeping up" the attacks on her. "I don't believe that. I'm speaking out only because things have been kept up for 6 months and escalated to GRRM promoting a hit piece on me.1:21 AM - 12 Mar 2015" http://file770.com/?tag=benjanun-sriduangkaew Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Myshkin Posted April 25, 2015 Share Posted April 25, 2015 She should just shut up and let her writing do her talking for her. Because whatever else she is, she's a good writer. But whining about how she's currently being treated after all the years of complete assholery on her part? Yeah, that ain't gonna win anyone over. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darth Richard II Posted April 25, 2015 Share Posted April 25, 2015 I'm kinda of indifferent to her writing but yeah, hit piece? I...don't have words. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
polishgenius Posted April 25, 2015 Share Posted April 25, 2015 She should just shut up and let her writing do her talking for her. See, that's what I thought she was gonna do - after the initial reveal, she played it just right, putting up apologies and then disappearing. If she just shut up for long enough, well, it'd never be forgotten, but people would start to care less. But she just can't resist, apparently. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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