Fragile Bird Posted April 27, 2015 Share Posted April 27, 2015 I think one thing we are pretty certain about book Petyr Baelish is that he is very possessive of Sansa, that he cares about her in his own perverse way. GoT Peter Baelish made a fine speech to Sansa on the hillside before taking her to the Boltons, but behind closed doors it looks like Littlefinger is only doing things for himself. Or is he? Are we about to see some deep scheme unfolding here, or has Sansa just been sold out? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sb.69 Posted April 27, 2015 Share Posted April 27, 2015 I don't. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mithras Posted April 27, 2015 Share Posted April 27, 2015 No, show!LF does not care about her and he sold her like any of his girls at his brothels. He is obviously fooling her. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alaynsa Starne Posted April 27, 2015 Share Posted April 27, 2015 LF has only ever cared about Sansa in reference to himself, in both the show and the books. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
C.T. Phipps Posted April 27, 2015 Share Posted April 27, 2015 Littlefinger made a choice.Cat 2.0 or more power.He chose more power. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alex Storm Posted April 27, 2015 Share Posted April 27, 2015 Littlefinger made a choice.Cat 2.0 or more power.He chose more power.How is giving Sansa to the Boltons getting himself more power? How is giving Sweetrobin to the Royces getting himself more power? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Petyr Patter Posted April 27, 2015 Share Posted April 27, 2015 If thought the show had enough thought to military situations, I'd say it is a somewhat calculated gambit to stop Stannis. In the book Stannis hates Littlefinger, and in the show its hard to envision the two working together. So, by giving Sansa to the Boltons, he is hoping the North will rally around Sansa and keep the Boltons in power instead of siding with Stannis against the Boltons. Add some Freys and the planned Karstark betrayal and Stannis will die outside the walls of Winterfell. But, no, he doesn't care about Sansa, except perhaps as the toy he never got, but now that he has... kind of... he is already bored. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mistress of Lemon Cakes Posted April 27, 2015 Share Posted April 27, 2015 No. Littlefinger may have a fascination with her because she reminds him of Catelyn, but when all is said and done ... Littlefinger only cares about Littlefinger. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Envie Posted April 27, 2015 Share Posted April 27, 2015 In show, Myranda = Myranda royce The vale = WF Harry = Ramsay The plan is the same as books, the location has changed. Good comparison but the stakes are so much riskier and I don't mean Ramsay's cruelty risk towards Sansa. The political stakes are very high in such a gamble for many reasons already stated by many... the crown could nullify the marriage and have Sansa hauled back to KL for trial (not likely), or the Lords of the Vale could refuse to support Littlefinger's move ... I mean, they refused to support Robb Stark as king of the north too so why would they support a Bolton alliance via the Starks? It's a bluff hand and Roose Bolton may or may not call it. But back to the question asked by the OP - no, I don't think either book LF or show LF really 'cares' for Sansa the way we're being led to believe. Remember the ladder speech. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ummester Posted April 27, 2015 Share Posted April 27, 2015 Simple answer - no, LF does not genuinely care about Sansa. Complicated answer - LF cannot genuinely care about anyone that is not Cat. Sansa is his most favourite possession, like a gold plated Ferrari, his most viable investment. He loves (or possibly treasures, depending on how we use the word love) his gold plated Ferrari as a great investment but he will always be willing to risk it to trade up - because that is how he plays. One gold plated Ferrari is not as good as 2, or the factory, or better still, Italy itself. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mithras Posted April 27, 2015 Share Posted April 27, 2015 Anyone remembers Rosy and "Chaos is a laddah!" monologue? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ummester Posted April 27, 2015 Share Posted April 27, 2015 Anyone remembers Rosy and "Chaos is a laddah!" monologue? Yes, Sansa is like a super expensive Rosy and think of all the chaos if LF can get the North and the South at war with each other again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
C.T. Phipps Posted April 27, 2015 Share Posted April 27, 2015 How is giving Sansa to the Boltons getting himself more power? How is giving Sweetrobin to the Royces getting himself more power? 1. He has gained the alliance of the Boltons and permanently severed them from any alliance with Cersei due to her hatred of anything related to Tyrion and her belief Sansa is involved in Joffrey's death. 2. The Royces are completely trustworthy. Ergo, Littlefinger has them eating him out of his hand. They now believe he's NOT trying to use Robin as a puppet. Littlefinger is the Regent of the Reach because they AREN'T going to use Robin as a puppet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
voodooqueen126 Posted April 27, 2015 Share Posted April 27, 2015 If thought the show had enough thought to military situations, I'd say it is a somewhat calculated gambit to stop Stannis. In the book Stannis hates Littlefinger, and in the show its hard to envision the two working together. So, by giving Sansa to the Boltons, he is hoping the North will rally around Sansa and keep the Boltons in power instead of siding with Stannis against the Boltons. Add some Freys and the planned Karstark betrayal and Stannis will die outside the walls of Winterfell. But, no, he doesn't care about Sansa, except perhaps as the toy he never got, but now that he has... kind of... he is already bored. You would think, before sending her off to Ramsay, he would've sampled the goods, since he knew that there would be no way he would get her back from the Boltons. Atleast not in one piece. Interestingly, on Not A Blog, GRRM said that Book LF is a little bit like Jay Gatsby, where as Show Littlefinger is a whole different beast. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
C.T. Phipps Posted April 27, 2015 Share Posted April 27, 2015 You would think, before sending her off to Ramsay, he would've sampled the goods, since he knew that there would be no way he would get her back from the Boltons. Atleast not in one piece. Interestingly, on Not A Blog, GRRM said that Book LF is a little bit like Jay Gatsby, where as Show Littlefinger is a whole different beast. Book Littlefinger is a lovable rogue with no moral scruples whatsoever. Basically, Lando Calrissian with a heart of pure evil. TV show Littlefinger is Darth Sidious. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
voodooqueen126 Posted April 27, 2015 Share Posted April 27, 2015 Book Littlefinger is a lovable rogue with no moral scruples whatsoever. Basically, Lando Calrissian with a heart of pure evil. TV show Littlefinger is Darth Sidious. I wouldn't consider Book LF Lovable. but then short little men with an annoying sense of humour and a giant sense of entitlement have never been my thing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tywin Smokin a Blunt Posted April 27, 2015 Share Posted April 27, 2015 I think that, just like Harry the Heir, Ramsey Bolton is just another stepping stone to Littlefinger, a pretext to gain control of the North. I trust that in both instances, he has a deeper plan that I just can't see yet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
C.T. Phipps Posted April 27, 2015 Share Posted April 27, 2015 I wouldn't consider Book LF Lovable. but then short little men with an annoying sense of humour and a giant sense of entitlement have never been my thing. Obviously, the facade doesn't last once we see past it in AGOT. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dya of Oldstones Posted April 27, 2015 Share Posted April 27, 2015 I wouldn't consider Book LF Lovable. but then short little men with an annoying sense of humour and a giant sense of entitlement have never been my thing. :agree: I also suspect show LF knows about Ramsay and doesn't care one way or the other about Sansa. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Led Posted April 27, 2015 Share Posted April 27, 2015 the Lords of the Vale could refuse to support Littlefinger's move ... I mean, they refused to support Robb Stark as king of the north too so why would they support a Bolton alliance via the Starks? Lysa Arryn refused to support Robb Stark, because Littlefinger asked her to (which they don't know). Several of the Vale lords did want to join him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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