ForeverLost Posted May 3, 2015 Share Posted May 3, 2015 I am sorry if it has been discussed before, but it just occurred to me that it in the show it could be Tommen whom Varys kills at some point instead of Kevan. Tommen will show himself as quite capable ruler after HS arrests Cersei. Also common people love Margery, so they might like him as well. Varys will not be happy, because it makes less chance that people will follow Daenerys when she arrives in Westeros. What do you think? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Udvarnoky Posted May 4, 2015 Share Posted May 4, 2015 Damn, that would be bold and amazing. I'd support that. Kevan and Pycelle are still going down though. I loved the moment in last night's episode where Pycelle halfway talks back to Cersei. Dude's getting fed up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Eunuch Posted May 4, 2015 Share Posted May 4, 2015 I don't think he will kill Tommen, but Pycelle and Littlefinger! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dronuspk Posted May 4, 2015 Share Posted May 4, 2015 If he took out all 3? Or just Tommen?I'd support all 3. That'd be awesome, and would shock the Unsullied who love Varys. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Eunuch Posted May 4, 2015 Share Posted May 4, 2015 Why kill Tommen? He's still a naive teenager, he doesn't know how to rule by himself. The scene when he tried to enter the Great Sept was clear about that. I don't think Varys will go on a rampage and kill everyone in the Red Keep, he'll just kill the persons who could help Tommen : Pycelle, and maybe Littlefinger. Tommen would be totally alone and lost! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ni2tre Posted May 4, 2015 Share Posted May 4, 2015 Kevan and Pycelle, same as in the ADWD epilogue.Tommen has to live until before Dany arrives, unless Aegon shows up out of no where. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HodoringHodor Posted May 4, 2015 Share Posted May 4, 2015 Kevan and Pycelle, same as in the ADWD epilogue.Tommen has to live until before Dany arrives, unless Aegon shows up out of no where.This is the answer. The show brought Kevan back and Pycelle is now giving the lip to Cersei. There's no need to change that. It's been theorized that Trystane is taking the role of Aegon, being the Dornish masterplan. With Quentyn gone, I can see this happening, Doran has to have an ace up his sleeve anyway. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Janicia Posted May 4, 2015 Share Posted May 4, 2015 I imagine the show will follow GRRM's death for Tommen pretty closely. It will be a big deal when it happens, in both show and book. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ForeverLost Posted May 4, 2015 Author Share Posted May 4, 2015 Ok, i made post before Episode 4 aired, it seems people are not into Tommen too much however. Initially i thought with Margery so popular and Tommen doing alright it would prevent people to support Dany after she lands in Westeros. Now not so sure anymore, but let' s see. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RenlyTheOneTrueKing Posted May 4, 2015 Share Posted May 4, 2015 I think those Tommen-Haters were all Faith Millitants or people spurred on by them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ruin Posted May 4, 2015 Share Posted May 4, 2015 In the books, my money is on Tyene. With the changes to the show, it could be up in the air, but I'm still betting on Tyene. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wavey Sauce Posted May 5, 2015 Share Posted May 5, 2015 Well Kevan and Pycelle are for sure going down. Kevan because he is the last person who is a head commander for the Lannisters, and is also a very smart guy. Pycelle just because he knows he is a snake and wants to make Cersei paranoid by the chaos. Tommen and his sister will both die before Cersei does, we can know that for sure Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheKitttenGuard Posted May 5, 2015 Share Posted May 5, 2015 This was my crackpot. Until I saw Kevan.So No Varys will not kill Tommen. If the scene occurs then I wonder if Olenna will die also since she will be in KL. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Lannister Posted May 5, 2015 Share Posted May 5, 2015 Tommen's not a bad kid, and could very well turn out alright. The fact that he didn't slaughter the sparrows shows that he's not an asshole like his (presumed)dad or his brother. Sure he's indecisive, but a lot of kids are. If Varys killed him.... wow, that would be shocking and put Varys in a negative light that the show often seems blind to. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheKitttenGuard Posted May 5, 2015 Share Posted May 5, 2015 Tommen's not a bad kid, and could very well turn out alright. The fact that he didn't slaughter the sparrows shows that he's not an asshole like his (presumed)dad or his brother. Sure he's indecisive, but a lot of kids are. If Varys killed him.... wow, that would be shocking and put Varys in a negative light that the show often seems blind to. He could of caused a riot if he order an attack. The people in the crowd were calling him a bastard and born in sin. He is not his beither but the action weaken him severly. Still better than starting a riot. Tommen end could be quite monstrous and best seeing an 18 yo. Actor playing a 12-13 yo. getting it is ok. Tears too be saved for the books. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
averde Posted May 5, 2015 Share Posted May 5, 2015 No. If that was going to happen I don't see why Kevan was reintroduced at the beginning of this season. He's a unnecessary addition to the cast who, if Tommen was going to replace him in the killing by Varys, could be replaced by more capable Tommen as ruler. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mithras Posted May 5, 2015 Share Posted May 5, 2015 1. No, Tommen will never show himself to be a capable king. Things will get worse.2. A Sandsnake is more likely to kill him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kn1tt3r Posted May 5, 2015 Share Posted May 5, 2015 @OP: No. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ForeverLost Posted May 5, 2015 Author Share Posted May 5, 2015 After thinking it carefully out, it indeed would not be good idea for Varys. Because if Tommen dies, then Myrcella is a heiress. And if that happens, Doran Martell probably could have second thoughts about "fire and blood" alliance (if there is such in the show, but i believe there is). On the other hand, Varys killing Tommen would be more effective on TV than Varys killing Kevan. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SayGen Posted May 5, 2015 Share Posted May 5, 2015 If he took out all 3? Or just Tommen? I'd support all 3. That'd be awesome, and would shock the Unsullied who love Varys. 4chan spoilers for the lose. Also I doubt it will happen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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