At least 10 years must past in the next books, correct?

[Sando25]

Hey everyone. Don't know if this has been covered in here already but according to ASOIAF's seasons and years. If there is a 10 year summer then there is around a 10 year winter. So if winter is just now coming at the end of DWD or at most a year in, doesn't that mean GRRM most cover a time span of around 8-10 years in the next 2 books? If this is true then how in the world is he going to be able to do this??

[Flackbish]

Or Winter Comes and goes with the White Walkers. Others dead = Winter over

[JoeyBanana]

See, this is why german neologism is superior

To properly make a snarky comment about this question, i would now have to quack about discourse and narrative time like i didn't just google the translations

whereas in german all i need to do is write a single word

[Humble Maester]

If, as some heterodox maesters believe, the long seasons are some kind of an magical anomaly (a belief I share), then it could be possible that by the end of the last book the seasons will be restored to their normal earth-like balance. After all the celestial movements of Planetos seem to be fairly similar to ours.

[IdoTheChoombi]

Nah, the seasons are going to be fixed sometimes during the last 25% of ADWD, why make a world with broken seasons if you're not planning to ever fix them?

[TheNorthRemember]

It is a failure that is usually mentioned mucho.Durante books are told that about a long winter but a supposed victory is achieved against the Other is supposed to Abara soon tiempo.La solution: get the victory but remains saga.seria finish the winter when a mild winter with hopes for a better spring. (hence the name of the last book)

[Caspoi]

TheNorthRemembers@ you know you can use google translate instead of leaving half the words spanish. This makes it easier for people to understand it.

[Syphon the Sanitator]

@JoeyBanana:

Then why not share that word with us? You tease!

[Rhaenys_Targaryen]

At the end of A Dance with Dragons, winter is just beginning. The white raven in the last chapter brings that news.

The supposed title for the seventh book should give a hint that winter either won't be over yet by the time the story ends, or is starting to end.. leaving people to 'dream for spring' after that harsh winter..

But whether that winter will need to last for many years... We don't even know whether we will see the entire thing, not what makes them last so long,and whether that will still be in place when the series are done.

[TheKingoftheSevenKingdoms]

It is a failure that is usually mentioned mucho.Durante books are told that about a long winter but a supposed victory is achieved against the Other is supposed to Abara soon tiempo.La solution: get the victory but remains saga.seria finish the winter when a mild winter with hopes for a better spring. (hence the name of the last book)

english, my good spanish man

[Mithras]

Not necessarily. Seasons are bitch in ASOIAF.

[Ser Walter of AShwood]

At the end of A Dance with Dragons, winter is just beginning. The white raven in the last chapter brings that news.

The supposed title for the seventh book should give a hint that winter either won't be over yet by the time the story ends, or is starting to end.. leaving people to 'dream for spring' after that harsh winter..

But whether that winter will need to last for many years... We don't even know whether we will see the entire thing, not what makes them last so long,and whether that will still be in place when the series are done.

I have to completely agree with this post.

TWOW will be about the period where "Winter is Coming" changes to "Winter has come".

In ADOS, winter will be ended (somehow, somewhere by someone(s)).

Also, I think that at the end of ADOS, seasons will somehow be 'fixed' and return to their normal length (comparable with earth seasons).

This will mean that the Stark words "Winter is Coming" will have lost their value, because the long, hard and dangerous winters will be gone.

Could that imply that the Starks themselves will also loose their value, or even worse, cease to exist?

[The_lost_arryn19]

That's probably why the last book is titled A DREAM OF SPRING

[SevasTra82]

Something to think about....the last book at one point was supposed to be titled "A Time For Wolves" but GRRM changed it because he felt it was too obvious to the story.

There very well could be a time-jump in the story. He planned one once in the original trilogy, so I don't think it's too far-fetched to believe he would have one between the 6th and 7th books. But I would caution people not to read too much into the titles, and GRRM seems to want to keep them vague. (Just look at "A Dance with Dragons"....how did that make sense for the 5th book?)

[Lord Cadwan]

I think A Dream for Spring means that clearly Spring has not arrived yet and that instead people are dreaming of springtime whilst the horror and death of the next two books are coming to a close and people's fortunes are getting better.

[The_lost_arryn19]

I think A Dream for Spring means that clearly Spring has not arrived yet and that instead people are dreaming of springtime whilst the horror and death of the next two books are coming to a close and people's fortunes are getting better.

Agreed

[The Sword of the Evening]

I think A Dream for Spring means that clearly Spring has not arrived yet and that instead people are dreaming of springtime whilst the horror and death of the next two books are coming to a close and people's fortunes are getting better.

This.

Also the climax could cause the seasons to normalize.

[The Ned's Little Girl]

I think the point of the seasons is that they are out of whack and nobody can tell how long each will last. hence the need to send special ravens to everybody when it's clear that winter is about to arrive. Also the need to carefully manage crop harvests to ensure that a certain portion is stored away each year, just in case winter decides to start. Also, getting things like the Year of the False Spring.

The weather isn't predictable, like 10 years on and 10 years off. That would be normal. This world is messed up on more than just the political level and the first indicator of that is the crazy weather.

[Lykos]

If there is a 10 year summer then there is around a 10 year winter.

No, the length of winter is not the same as the preceding summer, it rarely has been in the history of Westeros. The longest Winter mentioned (apart from the Long Night) might have lasted four to five + years 130 AC to 135 /136 AC which is directly cotradicted by Ser Arlan's statement in The Hedge Knight 209 AC.

The summers have been shorter since the last dragon died, and the winters longer and crueler.

The last Dragon died 153 AC.

The longest summer before the current one was King Maekar's (reign 221-233) summer that broke in it's seventh year.

Tyrion (born 273) has the following conversation with Jeor Mormont.

"You are a young man, Tyrion," Mormont said. "How many winters have you seen?"

He shrugged. "Eight, nine. I misremember."

"And all of them short."

"As you say, my lord." He had been born in the dead of winter, a terrible cruel one that the maesters said had lasted near three years, but Tyrion's earliest memories were of spring.

"When I was a boy, it was said that a long summer always meant a long winter to come. This summer has lasted nine years, Tyrion, and a tenth will soon be upon us. Think on that."

"When I was a boy," Tyrion replied, "my wet nurse told me that one day, if men were good, the gods would give the world a summer without ending. Perhaps we've been better than we thought, and the Great Summer is finally at hand."

Apart from that, as other posters have pointed out, you can start dreaming of spring whenever you like, even at the beginning of winter.

[Warrewal Halfaxe]

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