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so what exactly is the point of (f)Aegon?


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seems like a whole lot of filler to me.



oh he's a targ!



no wait he's not.



he's a blackfyre!



a who?



you know, the blackfyres?



i really don't



they had a few failed rebellions against the throne a few generations ago



fair enough. shall we just kill him or something?



ok.


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New theory that he's the bastard of Ned and Ashara Dayne. If Rob's dying edict legitimizes "Ned Stark's bastard" without mentioning Jon Snow by name, Aegon would become Aegon Stark, Lord of Winterfell and King in the North. As Ashara Dayne's son, he'd also likely wield the Sword of the Morning.



http://asoiaf.westeros.org/index.php/topic/129346-new-theory-lovely-crackpot/


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I would guess that his purpose is most likely as a stepping stone in the development of another character. To that end, I tend to believe he'll get a firsthand introduction to a dragon soon after Dany lands in Westeros and that, after having him killed, she'll have to deal with not knowing for sure if he really was a Targaryen or not.


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He is specifically created to have Dany fight someone formidable once she lands in Westeros (given how much disarray it is in now), and also to have Dany fight Jon because out of sudden all these pretenders claiming to be Rhaegar's heirs keep popping up. But her battle with Jon won't end well for her,because he will claim Drogon from her by warging him. After that she either submits to Jon or dies.


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Aegon is likely to take King's Landing before Dany even gets to Westeros. The truth of his identity likely will not matter much to most of the realm, but may be a challenge for Dany now that Aegon has chosen not to link up with her first. However she chooses to approach Aegon, she is likely to be approaching an Aegon that has already been crowned king.



Whatever his ancestry, there is a chance that many people, especially the commoners, welcome Aegon as a hero, as Rhaegar's son having escaped death and returned to restore peace and justice to Westeros. The rebels against the Targaryen regime plunged Westeros into war less than two decades ago removing the Targs, and their houses have torn Westeros to shreds over the last year or two.



Though some higher ups have reason to hate Aerys, and to dislike Targs, most have probably never been wronged by a Targ, while the wrongs done by the Lions, Stags, Wolves, etc. are fresh in everyone's mind. Perhaps Dany could have taken advantage of this, but she will be too late, and how will she approach Aegon then?


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He's the walking personification of Varys' comment about 'Power residing where men believe it to reside'.



In short you (like both Stannis and Dany) can have a really strong claim to the throne, but that doesn't stop someone else showing with an army and telling a pack of lies that says that they have an even better one and if they put on a good enough show they will be believed and maybe end up ruling anyway despite being complete imposters. The whole Royal imposter deal puts all rightful claims into sharp perspective and if we are presented with the possibility that the imposter ruler may on purely meritocratic grounds actually be a better candidate for the job than the 'real' one raises some interesting questions in the narrative regarding the whole legitimacy of hereditary succession.



I can definitely imagine some seismic political developments in Westeros should Faegon briefly sit the Iron Throne and be seen as a good King, before Dany showing up to expose him as a fraud then put him to death and prove to be just as unsuitable a ruler in Westeros as she was Mereen.


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Why is Aegon even considered fake? Jon Connington doesn't consider him fake. Why give up at least twelve years of your life for a mummery? The Golden Company doesn't consider him fake. Why hold a contract current for a fake? Doran has some doubts but is sending heir to meet with Aegon.


Until such time as proven different Aegon is Rhaegar's son and with that goes the Iron Throne.


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Why is Aegon even considered fake? Jon Connington doesn't consider him fake. Why give up at least twelve years of your life for a mummery? The Golden Company doesn't consider him fake. Why hold a contract current for a fake? Doran has some doubts but is sending heir to meet with Aegon.

Because everyone knows Aegon was murdered, so anyone claiming to be Aegon must be suspected to be fake. AeGriff must overcome that. And what Jon Connington thinks is irrelevant. Connington may believe it is Rhaegar's son, but he no more knows his true identity than anyone else who has been or will be asked to believe it is Rhaegar's son. Had Aegon grown up all his life in the public eye like Viserys and Dany that would be one thing. But the real thing is universally believed to have been murdered, and this person is coming out of nowhere with only Varys and Illyrio to vouch for his "rescue."

Until such time as proven different Aegon is Rhaegar's son and with that goes the Iron Throne.

Nope. But he will probably become king despite uncertainty about whether he is real or not. Fake Aegon, Fake Arya, the truth of their identity is not important if people are willing to accept them in their role.

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We don't know yet.



When Varys is monologuing to Kevan at the end of Dance we are led to believe that all of his plans have lead to setting up Aegon as the conqueror of Westeros who will take the Iron Throne. So obviously that is not what is going to happen.


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Why is Aegon even considered fake? Jon Connington doesn't consider him fake. Why give up at least twelve years of your life for a mummery? The Golden Company doesn't consider him fake. Why hold a contract current for a fake? Doran has some doubts but is sending heir to meet with Aegon.

Until such time as proven different Aegon is Rhaegar's son and with that goes the Iron Throne.

You tell 'em Gerg!
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Because everyone knows Aegon was murdered, so anyone claiming to be Aegon must be suspected to be fake. AeGriff must overcome that. And what Jon Connington thinks is irrelevant. Connington may believe it is Rhaegar's son, but he no more knows his true identity than anyone else who has been or will be asked to believe it is Rhaegar's son. Had Aegon grown up all his life in the public eye like Viserys and Dany that would be one thing. But the real thing is universally believed to have been murdered, and this person is coming out of nowhere with only Varys and Illyrio to vouch for his "rescue."

Nope. But he will probably become king despite uncertainty about whether he is real or not. Fake Aegon, Fake Arya, the truth of their identity is not important if people are willing to accept them in their role.

Hell, Connington knows it's bullshit. He just doesn't want to admit it. He wants oh so bad to restore his honor and place his dear prince's son on the Iron Throne. We're going to see something similar I think with Jaime, who feels oh so guilty about allowing Rhaegar's wee bairns get whacked.
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^Agreed, he knows. In the chapter when they are sailing across the narrow sea he is thinking about how he doesn't trust Varys and how Aegons eyes are the wrong color and it really comes off to me as his sub conscious being like "you know a lot of people are about to die for this phony..."


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