[Spoilers All] Lets talk the King's Landing trials on the show

[larastone]

Cersei: this is pretty straightforward and will follow the books imo. cersei will ask for trial by combat and robert strong (if that name is given on the show) will be her champion. lancel will be the faith's champion imo and cersei will win her trial by robert strong annihilating the waste of space loser that is lancel.

Margaery: I think that Margaery will be tried by the faith just like the books, but that her "crimes" will become more serious. i could see tommen repeating the things she said to him on their wedding night which could get her in serious trouble in regards to virginity. or the more likely option is actually that varys will stir some shit to make her come across as more guilty.its also possible that loras and maraery have a double trial and they're both doubly executed like anne and her brother george boleyn. Either way my guess is that Margaery will lose her trial.

Loras: lol loras is a definite goner imo. i wouldn't be surprised at all if he's a "shocking" death in the remaining episodes of season 5. its also possible that he and maraery have a double trial and they're both doubly executed like anne and her brother george boleyn.

[Wyman Manderly's Meat Pies]

If they allow it, I can see Loras championing Margaery and himself in two trial by combats. He wins for his sister but is exhausted from his imprisonment and the first trial, he dies a warrior's death in his trial.

[barristan-b]

An interesting change of pace could be to kick of next year w/ RS (Cersei) v. Loras (Margary) -- Ep601

That could get next season rolling and fast. I definitely think the pacing of the King's Landing storylines will be interesting.

[larastone]

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uh yeah no, i'm pretty sure lancel will fight against robert strong

[Lord Lannister]

uh yeah no, i'm pretty sure lancel will fight against robert strong

Everyone who thinks Lancel's going to fight for the Faith... book or show... answer this: Why would the Faith chose their champion as someone who wasn't won any fights in his life?

[Wyman Manderly's Meat Pies]

Everyone who thinks Lancel's going to fight for the Faith... book or show... answer this: Why would the Faith chose their champion as someone who wasn't won any fights in his life?

Because he has the will of the Gods behind him.

[midi]

How exactly are the Tyrell duo toast in your opinion? They have pretty much the best fighter in the realm ( Loras ), who can at least defend himself, if not Margaery, in a trial by combat... Who does The Faith have to pit against him? Lancel? Yeah right... Plus he might be wasted by The Mountain if Cersei's trial is first.

If Loras can champion Margaery also, then Margaery will make it out alive. At least one of them will survive in pretty much any scenario. They will both die only if Loras is very weakened by his captivity and/or he fights, say, The Hound.

[Valyrian Lance]

How exactly are the Tyrell duo toast in your opinion? They have pretty much the best fighter in the realm ( Loras ), who can at least defend himself, if not Margaery, in a trial by combat... Who does The Faith have to pit against him? Lancel? Yeah right... Plus he might be wasted by The Mountain if Cersei's trial is first.

If Loras can champion Margaery also, then Margaery will make it out alive. At least one of them will survive in pretty much any scenario. They will both die only if Loras is very weakened by his captivity and/or he fights, say, The Hound.

I wonder if the faith in the show or the books could use the seven aspects of one god as a way to pit seven champions against whatever champion the defendant chooses.

If Margaery was tried first, I doubt Loras would be allowed to fight as he would still be in custody. Though in a normal trial setting, Margaery's guilt is pretty much dependent on Loras's guilt, so a joint trial and maybe therefore a joint trial by combat could be done.

Either way I have to think HS has a trick up his sleeve considering the lengths he went to imprison these people and with the corruptness he has shown or feigned, I doubt he will leave the guilt of any of them up to Lancel.

Also if Lancel dies in TBC against any of the Tyrell's does the evidence against Cersei go away. I would think so.

[nyser1]

No way do both Tyrells die this season.

[Davos is King]

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[Lord Lannister]

Because he has the will of the Gods behind him.

Sure, a great line. That isn't going to win it for them. Considering the Faith's history, you'd think the notion of trial by combat would be repugnant to them by now.

[Wyman Manderly's Meat Pies]

Sure, a great line. That isn't going to win it for them. Considering the Faith's history, you'd think the notion of trial by combat would be repugnant to them by now.

Except that The High Sparrow truly believes.

[The Eunuch]

Loras : I don't think he's a goner for now... He could request a trial by combat and easily win. The only person who could defeat him is Gregor, but he can't be the Faith's champion (and Cersei needs him to protect her).

Cersei : since she's safe in the Red Keep after the Walk (and since Kevan is dead), she's in charge now, with nobody to stop her. I just can't see her going at the trial and leaving her fate into the hands of the High Sparrow! She could send her army and butcher them all. That's quite simple, plus, she doesn't care about the consequences (and that would set up the destruction of King's Landing).

Margaery : I don't know... The charges against her seem really weak. If Olyvar is found dead, or if LF asks Olyvar to say Cersei forced him to lie, she would be free. Or maybe, Cersei's army will kill everyone in the Great Sept including Margaery, and Cersei will say to Tommen that the High Sparrow tortured her to death :laugh:

After that, I can see the shit getting real in King's Landing : riots everywhere, Mace's army (and/or the Martell) coming for a siege, Cersei becoming the new Mad Queen with wildfire, until her sweet Jaime comes back to her and kills her :rolleyes:

[yanmaodao]

If they allow it, I can see Loras championing Margaery and himself in two trial by combats. He wins for his sister but is exhausted from his imprisonment and the first trial, he dies a warrior's death in his trial.

That would be awesome. In fact, maybe Loras's trial is supposed to happen first because he was arrested first, but he insists on fighting for Margaery first. And the HS, not being completely made of stone, obliges.

It would be one of the most heroic, knightly deaths on the show. And if the thing that kills him is an undead abomination, I can see public opinion turning even sharper against Cersei and for the Tyrells.

[larastone]

No way do both Tyrells die this season.

it will happen in season 6 imo

How exactly are the Tyrell duo toast in your opinion? They have pretty much the best fighter in the realm ( Loras ), who can at least defend himself, if not Margaery, in a trial by combat... Who does The Faith have to pit against him? Lancel? Yeah right... Plus he might be wasted by The Mountain if Cersei's trial is first.

If Loras can champion Margaery also, then Margaery will make it out alive. At least one of them will survive in pretty much any scenario. They will both die only if Loras is very weakened by his captivity and/or he fights, say, The Hound.

i cant see loras having a trial by combat. the high sparrow said in episode 7 that both loras and margaery will be tried by the faith

[Good Guy Garlan]

Well, in the books even the High Sparrow thinks the case against Margaery is weak, so I think Tyene is going to turn the tables and move strings behind the scenes by bribing/threatening, manipulating the seven judges.

I even have a theory of who the judges could be:

Father- High Sparrow

Mother- Cersei after she wins her trial or a very devout mother, like Jonos Bracken's wife.

Smith- Tobho Mott

Warrior- Theodan the True, captain of the Warrior's Sons

Maiden- Tyene herself, who's said to look pure and innocent as the Maiden in more than one occasion.

Crone- One of the old septas that imprisoned Cersei, perhaps

Stranger- A Silent Sister or Ilyn Payne

Anyway, on the show the High Sparrow said she'll be judged by seven septons, and since they're going with a heavily sexualized Tyene, I could see her going to KL next season and seduce Margaery's judges (we know the septons in the show are dirty old men) to get a guilty verdict.

[Mithras]

Well, in the books even the High Sparrow thinks the case against Margaery is weak,

You mean the guy who learned Lancel's confessions at the beginning of the book but waited for the right moment to say "No"?

I would not rely on the words of the High Sparrow in Margaery's case. After all, with a Tyrell host at KL, he could not have said "No" again.

[larastone]

You mean the guy who learned Lancel's confessions at the beginning of the book but waited for the right moment to say "No"?

I would not rely on the words of the High Sparrow in Margaery's case. After all, with a Tyrell host at KL, he could not have said "No" again.

good point

[Good Guy Garlan]

You mean the guy who learned Lancel's confessions at the beginning of the book but waited for the right moment to say "No"?

I would not rely on the words of the High Sparrow in Margaery's case. After all, with a Tyrell host at KL, he could not have said "No" again.

Good point, but he did allow Margaery to be out of the sept and in Tarly's custody, and the case really is flimsy and hinges on Qyburn extracting convincing confessions from some of Marg's supposed lovers.

[Mithras]

Good point, but he did allow Margaery to be out of the sept and in Tarly's custody, and the case really is flimsy and hinges on Qyburn extracting convincing confessions from some of Marg's supposed lovers.

and Pycelle's testimony that Marg required Moon Tea from him and the Septa's examination that Marg is not a virgin. This is by no means a weak case. High Sparrow is clearly bidding his time again.