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When Jon "dies" there's smoke (fires) and probably salt (Olly's tears, even if he tries hard not to shed them). Did anyone else try to find a hidden bleeding star somewhere in the background, even a symbolic one?


And more importantly, did you find one?


It would be very well hidden, so as not to spoil the surprise. In fact, it might not even be visible in episode 10, but we might have seen it on one of the characters (like Thorne) in a previous episode, and could deduce its presence at the stabbing. It could also be symbolic of course (I looked closely at the daggers).



Just curious. Of course, maybe they didn't include any because they really want Jon's return to be a surprise, but it's still worth checking.

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Well Kit Harrington is a star of GOT, and he was bleeding...

Sorry, that's the best I've got.

LOL :)

That's a great question though OP, I do wonder if there was something super subtle, perhaps one would really have to zoom in to see it or something. If there was I do hope someone figures it out. I just rewatched the ending a few more times but did not see anything. On the plus side, after watching the ending so many times I think I finally see the eye coor change thing. In all the other scenes his eyes are a very dark brown almost black and then when we are super zoomed in on the dead body they are lighter than usual for sure, maybe that's just the fimling lights shining on them though.

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When Jon "dies" there's smoke (fires) and probably salt (Olly's tears, even if he tries hard not to shed them). Did anyone else try to find a hidden bleeding star somewhere in the background, even a symbolic one?

And more importantly, did you find one?

It would be very well hidden, so as not to spoil the surprise. In fact, it might not even be visible in episode 10, but we might have seen it on one of the characters (like Thorne) in a previous episode, and could deduce its presence at the stabbing. It could also be symbolic of course (I looked closely at the daggers).

Just curious. Of course, maybe they didn't include any because they really want Jon's return to be a surprise, but it's still worth checking.

No offense but this a long stretch man.

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Well, as Jon is dying, the scene starts out somewhat dark and as the blood is flowing out of him the scene starts to brighten and so does Jon's eyes. It's possible a star may be overhead.(I'm thinking of when that child of the forest threw that fireball at Jojen and you saw it's light reflected in his eyes.) Not sure about the bleeding part though. Or it could just be the moon coming out from behind a cloud. :dunno:


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When Jon "dies" there's smoke (fires) and probably salt (Olly's tears, even if he tries hard not to shed them). Did anyone else try to find a hidden bleeding star somewhere in the background, even a symbolic one?

And more importantly, did you find one?

It would be very well hidden, so as not to spoil the surprise. In fact, it might not even be visible in episode 10, but we might have seen it on one of the characters (like Thorne) in a previous episode, and could deduce its presence at the stabbing. It could also be symbolic of course (I looked closely at the daggers).

Just curious. Of course, maybe they didn't include any because they really want Jon's return to be a surprise, but it's still worth checking.

If Myrcella is truely dead without being crowned, then they have completely butchered the Maggy-the-frog prophecy:

  • no Valonquar

Cerceis forgotten kid with Robert ("The king will have 20 children, you will have 3.")

and now "gold will be their crowns". I believe the crowns would mean more than just the hair color, since the parentage was already addressed in the previous sentence.

Why do you think they would get this one right?

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Doesnt the star appear when he is reborn?

Btw there was no star when he was actually born?

Osha said the star was for birth of dragons. Nothing human related?

It's not even necessarily related to his prophecy. people always mix all the heroes up into one. TPTWP, AA, etc are not really all the same. They have very different stories and requirements.

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Recently i thought about the scene with Lancel where he gets his "Faith Militant membership pass"



Probably nothing though,but it intruiged me.



http://winteriscoming.net/wp-content/uploads/2015/05/highsparrow.jpg



(sorry i dont know how to implement pictures in my post)



Honestly dont know how that would even match this whole savior-prophecy thing now that i think about it.


Or maybe...




Lancel for Azor Ahai!(i bet he was crying too,so theres the salt...and noone can tell me these Militants dont smoke something)



E:But in all seriousness,maybe the birth of Azor Ahai comes when the faith lies in ruins or crumbles or something...Dont know much about prophecies but i doubt they have to be literal.And now that i think about it,maybe the "smoke and salt" part means a kingdom in ruins (salt on the fields smoke from the castles and towns)


So the savior comes when everything went to the hells and neither kingdom nor faith are standing anymore.


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Recently i thought about the scene with Lancel where he gets his "Faith Militant membership pass"

Probably nothing though,but it intruiged me.

http://winteriscoming.net/wp-content/uploads/2015/05/highsparrow.jpg

Honestly dont know how that would even match this whole savior-prophecy thing now that i think about it.

Wow, that's really interesting. So obvious I hadn't seen it.

It's a show-only addition, but it's an intriguing one.

A bleeding star... Could thus be a member of the faith militant... Or a septon.

We could even stretch it a bit and say that a "bleeding star" could mean a "bleeding faith of the seven," or even "when the Faith bleeds." If someone attacked the Sparrows and/or killed the High Sparrow it may qualify.

In the show, any Sparrow can be a "bleeding star." In the books, septon Cellador is still at Castle Black. In both the show and the books the faith militant has become Cersei's enemy.

But more importantly there's a sept at Castle Black. And after Jon's assassination there's bound to be a bit of fighting. And his body, before being burned would likely be... In the sept.

That's a great catch Ser Klausewitz. Everyone was always so focused on comets that they forgot about this alternative meaning. I'm opening a thread in General to see if this idea holds any water.

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Seriously? Giving that much credit to D&D to actually know about, much less use, smoke, salt, comets, etc? Big, big stretch. Like LSH, I believe Kit is done, even if they bring back the character. But that's a big if.

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Seriously? Giving that much credit to D&D to actually know about, much less use, smoke, salt, comets, etc?

They've kept a lot of details from the books after all, and the Azor Ahai prophecy is as important in the show as it is in the books.

In fact they were careful to give us the prophecy in season 2:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a1OpEwhEMdc

Except Mel says "stars will bleed." I don't know whether we have "under a bleeding star" in the show.

They also were careful to show Tywin's funeral, complete with the sept's stars and many candles, establishing that dead bodies are put in septs:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kUyvoXPcRWE

I don't give much credit to D&D, but that's precisely why I think heavy-handed symbolism is totally the sort of thing they would do. I wondered why they had the Sparrows carve stars on their foreheads (though the books do mention Poor Fellows having it on their chest). Of course, if it's linked to the prophecy somehow it makes perfect sense.

I know it's a stretch but... I don't think D&D would completely botch that particular prophecy.

Like LSH, I believe Kit is done, even if they bring back the character. But that's a big if.

I don't know about Kit. He could be gone, indeed. But Azor Ahai will be in the show, that's a certainty.

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