Cayrouse Posted June 26, 2015 Share Posted June 26, 2015 What kind of Disney movies are you watching?? Dany burned a woman alive as a blood sacrifice in the 1st book. She's definitely not the typical fantasy heroine. She's a much more complex character.My answer would be Stannis. I realize almost most characters are going to have fans, but when I first joined this forum I was pretty shocked at the following he has tbh.Sorry Let me try to be a little clearer: I meant, She is the prettiest woman in the world/Fairest of them all, She has a special relationship with Animals/Fantasy Creatures that normal people don't (Snow-White,Frozen,Cinderella,Pocahantas, lilo and Stitch, The Little Mermaid),She is one of the last heirs of her house with no male heirs to challenge her rule, (Little Mermaid,Pocahantas Frozen, Cinderella,Aladdin,) she has a Twisted/ Initially non-consensual relationship with a Monster who turns out to be a lovely-ish chap behind a hard exterior-Beauty and the Beast. and we're probably going to get her save the Kingdom from the Evil Forces beyond a Great wall with her pet Dragon ( Mulan) And as to which Diseny Stories I've been reading:Does the the fact that the Hunchback of Notre Dame was adapted to Disney suffice to make Esmeralda a 'Dinsey princess?' ( questions of all bloodlines aside) because in the Book, some pretty awful stuff happens. :P Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rayarts Posted June 26, 2015 Author Share Posted June 26, 2015 My answer would also be Stannis. I realize most characters are going to have fans, but when I first joined this forum I was pretty shocked at the following he has tbh.Exactly this for me Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Destroyer of Nations Posted June 26, 2015 Share Posted June 26, 2015 When it comes to characters who were still alive when the books started I'd have to say either Ser Barristan or Littlefinger. If I had to choose from characters who were already dead when the books started I'd have to say Rhaegar. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nictarion Posted June 26, 2015 Share Posted June 26, 2015 I like Stannis, but I don't understand the "Stannis THE MANNIS!!!" hero worship some people have for the character. That attitude would probably piss him off more than anything. as someone who like both, I also don't understand why the most ardent Jon fans are the most passionate Dany haters. :dunno:Yeah, this one gets me too, as I also like both. It's pretty one sided too. I honestly believe it's a case of not wanting their favorite character to have to share the spotlight with her. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gala Posted June 26, 2015 Share Posted June 26, 2015 I cant understand Eddard Stark. He's a seasoned fighter who had been leading an enormous stretch of land for so many years. Surely he must have known that spilling the beans to Cersei would lead to consequences. What did he expect ie that the Lannister will suffer annihilation with a smile on their face? You can't understand Eddard or why people like him? If I am not mistaken the question is the characters that you do not understand why your friends or people in general love them. Because the answer is why he is loved is exactly what you wrote. And by the way, there is a huge difference between being a military general. seasoned fighter and being a player of game of thrones. Ned never was the later, but he was a great father, great lord, great person (despite having faults as any other). For example, Tywin was his complete opposition - great player (no doubts there), but not a general (let's be fair, he defeated Robb only playing the game, not leading an army) or great fighter, and definitely not a great father. Ned was loved by people and Tywin was feared. It depends on of what the every particular fan values most- cunning or honour. I love Ned, for example, though, I understand why people love Tywin. I must admit I do not like "the game", intrigues etc. Jamie, Cat, Sansa - I understand, too. Ramsey and Roose, though, that's kind of creepy, for me at least. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
falcotron Posted June 26, 2015 Share Posted June 26, 2015 I don't really understand anyone liking almost any of the characters in these books, in that sense. I love reading their stories. I can empathize with their struggles. I was on the edge of my seat for both Tyrion and Stannis while reading the Blackwater chapters. But that doesn't mean I think they're both heroes, or would want to be friends with them, or overthrow the government and put them in charge. I also don't see why so many people need to see certain characters as pure evil. OK, Biter or the Mountain or Ramsay, but those are very minor characters, and they're basically cartoons. But hating Cat or Stannis or Dany and twisting the story around so they're to blame for everything seems just as pointless as taking their "side" and twisting the story so everything they ever did was right. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
intheswamp Posted June 26, 2015 Share Posted June 26, 2015 Pretty much any character from Dorne besides Oberyn. Bran. His chapters are consistently boring. But, worse that that is what he is doing to Hodor. Go back and read the descriptions of when Bran takes control of Hodor or thinks about what it is like when he does it. Hodor is in pain and goes into a tiny corner of his mind to cry. He doesn't want it or like it. The descriptions are creepily similar to reactions to abuse and rape. Bran even knows it is wrong, but keeps forcing himself on Hodor anyway, even to do pointless things like wander around the caves with Meera and Jojen. If he wants to wander around so much, then he could just do so in his partner Summer's mind. It makes me think that Bran won't necessarily be the force for good that many expect him to be. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stormland's Fury Posted June 26, 2015 Share Posted June 26, 2015 Oh this thread's going to end well. *starts cooking popcorn*Damn, beat me to it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wefollowthecomet Posted June 26, 2015 Share Posted June 26, 2015 Ok, this kinda blew me - Ramsay has FANS??? o_O I don't want even to elaborate what that says about these people if you like a sadistic crazy bastard like him.... It gets worse. There are even Ramsay x Theon Shippers :ack: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rayarts Posted June 26, 2015 Author Share Posted June 26, 2015 Pretty much any character from Dorne besides Oberyn. Bran. His chapters are consistently boring. But, worse that that is what he is doing to Hodor. Go back and read the descriptions of when Bran takes control of Hodor or thinks about what it is like when he does it. Hodor is in pain and goes into a tiny corner of his mind to cry. He doesn't want it or like it. The descriptions are creepily similar to reactions to abuse and rape. Bran even knows it is wrong, but keeps forcing himself on Hodor anyway, even to do pointless things like wander around the caves with Meera and Jojen. If he wants to wander around so much, then he could just do so in his partner Summer's mind. It makes me think that Bran won't necessarily be the force for good that many expect him to be. I see your point with Bran, I also thought that it was quite bad how it was for Hodor. But with Bran I also never realized that he had fans. Ok, most people thinks he is good and ok and so on, but there isn't such a fandom like for e.g. Stannis Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cayrouse Posted June 26, 2015 Share Posted June 26, 2015 Damn, beat me to it. There's always drinks- popcorn makes people thirsty. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rayarts Posted June 26, 2015 Author Share Posted June 26, 2015 It gets worse. There are even Ramsay x Theon Shippers :ack: Ha ha, that cracked a laugh. I guess nothing's impossible in the minds of people... duh. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gala Posted June 26, 2015 Share Posted June 26, 2015 Pretty much any character from Dorne besides Oberyn. Not even Doran and Ellaria Sand? In the books they are quite good. Ellaria is nice and good woman. Doran is smart and definitely loves his family and his people, his country. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stormland's Fury Posted June 26, 2015 Share Posted June 26, 2015 Every time I read Stannis the more I like him and salute GRRM's genius to make him even work on a meta-level. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stormland's Fury Posted June 26, 2015 Share Posted June 26, 2015 There's always drinks- popcorn makes people thirsty.But I am the popcorn guy :-( Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chinoiserie Posted June 26, 2015 Share Posted June 26, 2015 Cersei. The society being sexist is apparently an excuse for everything. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cayrouse Posted June 26, 2015 Share Posted June 26, 2015 But I am the popcorn guy :-( There can only be one! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rayarts Posted June 26, 2015 Author Share Posted June 26, 2015 Cersei. The society being sexist is apparently an excuse for everything. Yeah Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
intheswamp Posted June 26, 2015 Share Posted June 26, 2015 Not even Doran and Ellaria Sand? In the books they are quite good. Ellaria is nice and good woman. Doran is smart and definitely loves his family and his people, his country. Doran is said to be smart. But, he hasn't really shown it yet. The plan to send his eldest son on a dangerous journey to Dany with a small retinue and some story about how they were agreed upon to be wed was dumb as hell. And Ellaria is such a small role in the books. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Reaper oOo Posted June 26, 2015 Share Posted June 26, 2015 Jaime fans are ridiculous. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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