Sephelutis Posted June 28, 2015 Share Posted June 28, 2015 Could you come out of kingship alive? how would you fix his mistakes? Me: Keep Tywin close as a hand, he was pretty good at it. With kingdom intact I wouldn't care what other's say and instead focus on tech developments. Westeros are kind of behind on technology. Go rain of castemere on Duskendale. They were really at fault and as a king you cant afford mercy with defiance like that. A quick and efficient end for them and nothing more. Keep good relationship with Iron Bank, propose new tech (especially fertilisers etc) to iron bank for more loan/money. Since Tywin is hand, pretend to go on holiday but secretly learn more info in Braavos, place is pretty good for technology developments. Lannisters will be in debt sooner or later once their gold mines run dry, so manipulate and put them in even more debt to keep them close/on their toes. Rhaegar incident: Calm the Starks and insist a fair trial. Once Lyanna and Rhaegar is back, send Rhaegar or both of them to the wall. They can do their prophecy all they like just not on my turf. Later years since Lannisters are in debt, once tywin dies of old age conspire with Iron Bank to get rid of lannister's figure head, I wouldn't trust them. I don't think anyone can save the situation during Robert's rebeliion, that one is too far gone. Either crush the rebeliion or be crushed Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bronn Urgandy Posted June 28, 2015 Share Posted June 28, 2015 Would I be as mad as the mad King in this scenario? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rickon will return Posted June 28, 2015 Share Posted June 28, 2015 Bring an army to Duskendale. That was the first domino to topple.Keep Tywin as a friend and try to have a marriage between the throne and the Rock. Not sure if a Cersei/Rhaegar union would be a good thing, though...Not kill Rickard and Brandon when Rhaegar runs away with Lyanna, and make it look like I don't know where Rhaegar is either. This could have been solved with so much less blood...Actually start one of my crazy projects (with someone else's money, of course). Just for history's sake.And, most importantly: a haircut and nail trim every so often. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red Typer of Dorne Posted June 28, 2015 Share Posted June 28, 2015 If I was the mad king, wouldn't I be mad? In that case, stick pencils up my nose and say 'awobble' Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sephelutis Posted June 28, 2015 Author Share Posted June 28, 2015 he wasn't mad before Duskendale, granted if you manage to hold the resistance you can treat yourself as a normal king with abit of paranoia of lannisters. However people would still say Tywin is the real king if you name him the hand. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sephelutis Posted June 28, 2015 Author Share Posted June 28, 2015 double post.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sephelutis Posted June 28, 2015 Author Share Posted June 28, 2015 I fear keeping lannister close they might try to take over your dynasty via marriage. So for dynasty sake, I decided to get rid of lannisters eventually. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trigger Warning Posted June 28, 2015 Share Posted June 28, 2015 Lannisters aren't running out of gold any time soon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red Typer of Dorne Posted June 28, 2015 Share Posted June 28, 2015 dp Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sephelutis Posted June 28, 2015 Author Share Posted June 28, 2015 You could make them. As the hand of king he is to serve. If you keen on developing new tech I doubt he has any right to object. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trigger Warning Posted June 28, 2015 Share Posted June 28, 2015 Developing new technology is easier said than done. Westeros is technologically stagnant. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sephelutis Posted June 28, 2015 Author Share Posted June 28, 2015 They already have maesters and Braavos is really advanced. With a logical mind and a few experiments you can make naturally genetically modeified crops that yield far more than usual. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bobby b's bobby Posted June 28, 2015 Share Posted June 28, 2015 If I'm actually the mad king the second I hear Robert won at the trident melt Jaime then kingslanding hoping to become a dragon or at the very least spite a wank with stupid sideburns and the guy who killed my not so bright son.If I'm me but just in the mad King's place give tywin his marriage and not fuck with him and try to run the realm maintaining the status qou your lords tend to like that and if brandon still turns up demanding my son come out and die imprison him tell his father and Rhaegar come to kl Rhaegar explain what's going on and rickard gets his son back for him pledging his continued fealty.And that gold mine thing is show only the lannisters are still loaded In the books Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stateofdissipation Posted June 28, 2015 Share Posted June 28, 2015 Could you come out of kingship alive? how would you fix his mistakes? Me: Keep Tywin close as a hand, he was pretty good at it. With kingdom intact I wouldn't care what other's say and instead focus on tech developments. Westeros are kind of behind on technology. Go rain of castemere on Duskendale. They were really at fault and as a king you cant afford mercy with defiance like that. A quick and efficient end for them and nothing more. Keep good relationship with Iron Bank, propose new tech (especially fertilisers etc) to iron bank for more loan/money. Since Tywin is hand, pretend to go on holiday but secretly learn more info in Braavos, place is pretty good for technology developments. Lannisters will be in debt sooner or later once their gold mines run dry, so manipulate and put them in even more debt to keep them close/on their toes. Rhaegar incident: Calm the Starks and insist a fair trial. Once Lyanna and Rhaegar is back, send Rhaegar or both of them to the wall. They can do their prophecy all they like just not on my turf. Later years since Lannisters are in debt, once tywin dies of old age conspire with Iron Bank to get rid of lannister's figure head, I wouldn't trust them. I don't think anyone can save the situation during Robert's rebeliion, that one is too far gone. Either crush the rebeliion or be crushed Tywin was a problem. He needed to go. Finding a pretext to exile him and installing a more loyal lord as the Lord of Casterly Rock and warden of the West would be top priority. If you go so far as to insult his daughter and steal his heir, you should not leave him with power enough to possibly cause harm. Instead of having Brandon executed, have him marry into the newly appointed Warden of the West's house.. or forfeit being Warden of the North. (execution or exile) The marriage would prop up the new Warden of the West and weaken the alliances of the Warden of the North. Lord Tywin was able to beat Robb by playing on the ambitions of lesser houses. A king could bring unruly lords to heel by playing on the ambitions of their lesser houses. Rome was able to maintain dominance by promoting in-fighting and supporting the weaker side. The Targaryens could have done the same thing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wolf's Bane Posted June 28, 2015 Share Posted June 28, 2015 Could you come out of kingship alive? how would you fix his mistakes? Me: Keep Tywin close as a hand, he was pretty good at it. With kingdom intact I wouldn't care what other's say and instead focus on tech developments. Westeros are kind of behind on technology. Go rain of castemere on Duskendale. They were really at fault and as a king you cant afford mercy with defiance like that. A quick and efficient end for them and nothing more. Keep good relationship with Iron Bank, propose new tech (especially fertilisers etc) to iron bank for more loan/money. Since Tywin is hand, pretend to go on holiday but secretly learn more info in Braavos, place is pretty good for technology developments. Lannisters will be in debt sooner or later once their gold mines run dry, so manipulate and put them in even more debt to keep them close/on their toes. Rhaegar incident: Calm the Starks and insist a fair trial. Once Lyanna and Rhaegar is back, send Rhaegar or both of them to the wall. They can do their prophecy all they like just not on my turf. Later years since Lannisters are in debt, once tywin dies of old age conspire with Iron Bank to get rid of lannister's figure head, I wouldn't trust them. I don't think anyone can save the situation during Robert's rebeliion, that one is too far gone. Either crush the rebeliion or be crushed I agree with most of what you said, except "calming the Starks". You cannot tolerate a hot-headed man with an armed posse storming into the Red Keep making threats against Prince Rhaegar. Brandon and those idiots forming his escort should be executed. The only difference is that I would have them beheaded rather than toy with them with a strangling device. Aerys was right not to let Rhaegar marry Cersei, but he was right for the wrong reason. Cersei and Jaime were already in love with one another. I would have softened the refusal, however, rather than insulting the Lannisters. I would keep Tywin as the Hand. However, there are no shortages of capable people out there to take his place. You're right about the rebellion. After it started, it was win or lose at that point. Just a couple more points. The Lannisters' gold mines are not exhausted in the books. That's only in the show. I also question the wisdom of Jon Arryn, who would throw a rebellion that would kill many thousands of people just to protect two young men. Two young men who could have easily gone into exile. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OmnomnomPomelo Posted June 28, 2015 Share Posted June 28, 2015 I'd burn King's Landing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sephelutis Posted June 28, 2015 Author Share Posted June 28, 2015 SteelShanks The situation is too volatile for anything else during Rhaegar's stupidity moments. If The king had a sensible conversation with Brandon with the full court I doubt Brandon can do anything more other than looking like an idiot hot head. I didn't bother much with Tywin since he is very skilled at leading and pleasing the status que, exile him the controversy might just ignite a rebellion during the Mad King's period. Lannsiters are powerful so I seek more power from Iron banks, then destroy the lannisters when they are least expected. Calming Brandon is difficult, but he doesn't have to be calmed, just make sure you sound sensible to the lords, rickon and other people during the court and worse comes worse lock Brandon up until Rhaegar's return. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BONEMAN Posted June 28, 2015 Share Posted June 28, 2015 Hard to say, when do you jump in? Right around Lyanna's abduction Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steinnis Posted June 28, 2015 Share Posted June 28, 2015 As king I'd never send my heir to the wall. Send Lyanna home 'dishonoured' and keep enough friends to pacify the Starks, at that point though, Aerys was a lost cause... Unless he could keep Tywin's allegiance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheOne-EyedHound Posted June 29, 2015 Share Posted June 29, 2015 I would not kill the Warden of the North, and his heir. If Aerys had said "I don't know where Rhaegar is but I'll have him answers for this, we'll do our best to find him" things would've been way different. It would give Rhaegar time to produce J, and Lord Rickard would not go to war with a king who is trying to help him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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