Maester Emrick of Seagard Posted June 29, 2015 Share Posted June 29, 2015 Just a doubt that came to my mind, and you know it better than me. Who else in Westeros' history broke the guest right tradition, besides the Freys and, maybe, Maegor I? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bright Blue Eyes Posted June 29, 2015 Share Posted June 29, 2015 Tyrion Lannister (by proxy). He sent those guys into Riverrun with explicit orders to break guest right and free Jaime. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ferocious Veldt Roarer Posted June 29, 2015 Share Posted June 29, 2015 In the books, Jaime pushed Bran out of that window, and then there were the mutineers in Craster's Keep. Earlier, there was an incident where Rhaenyra tried to make some lord kill a girl she suspected of being her husband's mistress (he didn't oblige, though), and a couple centuries later, Mad King Aerys would ask Jon Arryn to do the same (and again unsuccessfully). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paxter Redwyne Posted June 29, 2015 Share Posted June 29, 2015 Bloodraven. He killed guest and served his head on great council. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Universal Sword Donor Posted June 29, 2015 Share Posted June 29, 2015 Um who is Maester Emrick? Don't think we have been introduced to the Seagard maester and he doesn't show up in the maester list on the wiki. The only asoiaf character named Emrick is a NW member. but the only ones that come to mind are the Rat King and the mutineers at Craster's Keep. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wolf's Bane Posted June 29, 2015 Share Posted June 29, 2015 The previous comments were inclusive. Here is one that would have happened if Balon had chosen to throw another rebellion. Ned Stark would have taken off Theon Greyjoy's head, in response to Balon. Theon is a guest of Winterfell. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trigger Warning Posted June 29, 2015 Share Posted June 29, 2015 The previous comments were inclusive. Here is one that would have happened if Balon had chosen to throw another rebellion. Ned Stark would have taken off Theon Greyjoy's head, in response to Balon. Theon is a guest of Winterfell. Technically he's a prisoner. He wasn't invited, he was taken under the understanding that further rebellion would cost him his life. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Universal Sword Donor Posted June 29, 2015 Share Posted June 29, 2015 The previous comments were inclusive. Here is one that would have happened if Balon had chosen to throw another rebellion. Ned Stark would have taken off Theon Greyjoy's head, in response to Balon. Theon is a guest of Winterfell. Theon's a prisoner, not a guest. Theon did not come of his own volition. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balerion's Whiskers Posted June 29, 2015 Share Posted June 29, 2015 Technically he's a prisoner. He wasn't invited, he was taken under the understanding that further rebellion would cost him his life. Correct...Theon was no guest. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Dames do Moan Posted June 29, 2015 Share Posted June 29, 2015 Bloodraven. He killed guest and served his head on great council. That's what I was going to say. He was punished for it too Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gibzit Posted June 29, 2015 Share Posted June 29, 2015 House Uller invited their rivals to a feast, locked Hellholt down and burnt them all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Broke Howard Hughes Posted June 29, 2015 Share Posted June 29, 2015 Jaime. Pushing Bran broke guest right. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BaelorTheBold Posted June 29, 2015 Share Posted June 29, 2015 Bloodraven. He killed guest and served his head on great council. Don't you have to eat something from the Host for guest right to actually occur? That is why Cat made a big deal of it to Robb so that he would eat something as soon as he walked into the Twins. I am not sure if it is stated whether or not Bloodraven fed Aenys Blackfyre before killing. He did, however, offer him safe conduct to King's Landing but maybe used play-on-words to kill him once he actually made it to King's Landing seeing as how his "safe conduct" would technically be accomplished. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eddy of the Godswood Posted June 29, 2015 Share Posted June 29, 2015 Mad Aerys invited Lord Rickard Stark and a few other lords under pretense of safe conduct for them yet they were all killed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aryagonnakill#2 Posted June 29, 2015 Share Posted June 29, 2015 Rat king at Night Fort, Mutineers at Crastors, Jaime at Winterfell, Tyrells at Purple Wedding, Freys at Red Wedding, possibly Aerys or Lord Darklyn at Duskendale tho we do not know for sure, BR with the Blackfyre, house Uller at HelHolt, Tyrion by proxy at Riverrun. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ferocious Veldt Roarer Posted June 29, 2015 Share Posted June 29, 2015 Bloodraven. He killed guest and served his head on great council. Mad Aerys invited Lord Rickard Stark and a few other lords under pretense of safe conduct for them yet they were all killed. Remember when Robb & party arrived at the Twins for Edmure's wedding, and Cat could (somewhat) relax only after eating Walder's bread and salt? It was only that act that formed the contract between the guest and the host. Anything happens before that, it'll be just your plain, run-of-the-mill treason or murder at most. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Poppa Chase Posted June 29, 2015 Share Posted June 29, 2015 If you feed em, you can't bleed em. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gregg22 Posted June 29, 2015 Share Posted June 29, 2015 My interpretation is that the guest right constrains the HOST from harming the guest, not really the other way around. ASOS Jon I "Your father would have had my head off." The king gave a shrug. "Though once I had eaten at his board I was protected by guest right. The laws of hospitality are as old as the First Men, and sacred as a heart tree." He gestured at the board between them, the broken bread and chicken bones. "Here you are the guest, and safe from harm at my hands . . . this night, at least. (Mance to Jon) I've never seen it used the other way around, but maybe you guys can find an instance that its mentioned that way. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Poppa Chase Posted June 29, 2015 Share Posted June 29, 2015 Osha broke it when she killed theons guards. She assuredly ate his bread and salt. And he payed the iron price for that bread and salt so it's his by right. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Poppa Chase Posted June 29, 2015 Share Posted June 29, 2015 The Wildling women in winterfell broke guest right when they killed Ramsays men. They had to have eaten a meal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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