Faceless Man Friday Posted June 29, 2015 Share Posted June 29, 2015 Commenting only on the TV show only I believe Season 5, especially this episode has focused in on the true identity of Arya. Her season 5 journey has consisted of her failed attempt to become No One. I do not however believe that she "failed". She did just what she was supposed to do. Arya Stark will never lose her identity as Arya Stark no matter how far she is removed from the original Arya we met at Winterfell. The FM know this and despite whatever they say to the contrary (they are all liars anyway) they want her that way. Arya Stark is not just an acolyte of the God of Death, she is the Goddess of Death. Arya is Indian for Noble Goddess and Stark means Death-like. Arya Stark = Death Goddess. She can never be no one, an empty vessel for the God of Death if she is the Goddess of Death. She just doesn't know it yet, but the FM do. To me the confirming event from Season 5 occurred when she pulled the faces off the FM only to find her own face. How can that be if she is not dead? That can only be if she is death itself. And why would anyone think this maybe a good thing? Because Death is what is going to be needed to face an army of undead. Back in Season 3, Melisandre tells Arya that she sees many eyes that Arya will shut forever...brown eyes, blue eyes, green eyes. Could it be that the blue eyes she will shut forever are the blue eyes of the undead? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grail King Posted July 1, 2015 Share Posted July 1, 2015 Different eye colors probably mean just random ( important ) people, seeing her own face could be a foreshadowing of her own death, either figuratively or actually. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ummester Posted July 1, 2015 Share Posted July 1, 2015 I do think Arya is some kind of literary version of a mythological death figure, or something similar - I leaned towards Hati, the wolf that chases the moon and hates. But a Goddess of Death also works. Arya has become all vengeance and hatred and death, I don't think there is any turning back for her now, short of her own death. Jaquen and the FM supporting her, even though she is clearly disobedient and undisciplined, suggests that they see some higher purpose or meaning in Arya - I agree with and like the idea that the FM think Arya could be the god of Death born again, or something. I don't think any of this is lining up as some kind of 'good thing' to defeat the white walkers, however. I think it is just lining up with the idea that the prophesised saviours in ASoIaF are going to be destroyers, that Westeros is heading towards apocalypse. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Faceless Man Friday Posted July 1, 2015 Author Share Posted July 1, 2015 I don't think any of this is lining up as some kind of 'good thing' to defeat the white walkers, however. I think it is just lining up with the idea that the prophesised saviours in ASoIaF are going to be destroyers, that Westeros is heading towards apocalypse. I agree that the end of the story may be apocalyptic and that the prophesised saviours may well be destroyers. It could be that Arya may be one of those destroyers. My speculation, however, is that at some point, maybe not the very end, Arya is going to be the one who puts the undead to rest. She restores the balance where the dead stay dead. Valor morghulis. But the story may continue on from that. Valor Dohaeris. It could very well be that the saviours, like Dany, break the wheel, totally smash the political system of Westeros & Essos where the many serve the few. What comes after that? Maybe GRRM isn't so sadistic that he leaves us with a story of death and destruction but at least gives us an ending were we can see what comes after. Possibly a world were the leaders, the few, serve the many. One can only hope. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ludo Kressh Posted July 1, 2015 Share Posted July 1, 2015 I have a feeling that she may be the undoing of the Faceless Men...Kindly Jaqun seems to take an usually high interest in Arya, starting with when she met him on the road from King's Landing(and maybe before, as some believe that H'ghar may have been Syrio Forel, her dancing instructor). She is a Stark and I agree that she'll stay a Stark and never truly become no one. Being the pessimistic person that I am sometimes, I think the White Walkers will take over everything and all of Westeros will be ice and Essos will be engulfed in fire(Doom of Valyria style)...how's that for your song of ice and fire. :P Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grail King Posted July 1, 2015 Share Posted July 1, 2015 I have a feeling that she may be the undoing of the Faceless Men...Kindly Jaqun seems to take an usually high interest in Arya, starting with when she met him on the road from King's Landing(and maybe before, as some believe that H'ghar may have been Syrio Forel, her dancing instructor). She is a Stark and I agree that she'll stay a Stark and never truly become no one. Being the pessimistic person that I am sometimes, I think the White Walkers will take over everything and all of Westeros will be ice and Essos will be engulfed in fire(Doom of Valyria style)...how's that for your song of ice and fire. :P Depressing to say the least, I guess maybe the Starks are the Gods of death. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Inigo Sand Posted July 1, 2015 Share Posted July 1, 2015 Since maybe halfway through the story to date (books and show) I've felt that Arya is being set up for something, and that it's bigger than working through her list or making a strategic kill as one of the Faceless Men. It could be connected with Nymeria and her pack, but the OP's theory - or something like it - seems as good as any, and I agree with the point about the FM knowing that she will never be No-One. In GRRM's otherwise grimly realistic world she is one of the few characters who is 'protected' in some way. She is brave and resourceful and refuses to be a victim, but more than once in her storyline events and encounters have worked against the odds to keep her safe. (Bran is another, also with a supernatural destiny - and a name that echoes Bran the Blessed for anyone familiar with Celtic myth). I'm not into speculating particularly, but I am intrigued by Arya and what part she will play in the closing stages. Goddess or angel of death works for me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VenezuelanLord Posted July 2, 2015 Share Posted July 2, 2015 I have always felt arya as an agent of chaos... up until now she was up to her neck in chaos since Robert's journey to winterfell, to me it would be fit is she takes a more active part on that chaos,killing someone big in westeros for example Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ashlesha Posted July 2, 2015 Share Posted July 2, 2015 Whatever that is happening with Arya has some clever well thought end-game. I suspect she dies doing something mindblowing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rinn80 Posted July 3, 2015 Share Posted July 3, 2015 Who will she kill when her training has finished ? Who are the high targets on her list ? -Cersei-Walder Frey-the Boltons/Ramsey Snow-theon- ???She is probably the only one at the moment who can actually take revenge for the Starks. Robb is dead, Jon is dead, Bran is behind the wall and is too far away to warg and kill someone.And I think that Sansa might be able to kill the Boltons & Littlefinger later if her character becomes more interesting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VenezuelanLord Posted July 4, 2015 Share Posted July 4, 2015 Who will she kill when her training has finished ? Who are the high targets on her list ? -Cersei-Walder Frey-the Boltons/Ramsey Snow-theon- ???She is probably the only one at the moment who can actually take revenge for the Starks. Robb is dead, Jon is dead, Bran is behind the wall and is too far away to warg and kill someone.And I think that Sansa might be able to kill the Boltons & Littlefinger later if her character becomes more interesting.Some people thinks she is the valonqar, and the one who is to kill cersei, i think she will kill tommen, in contract with the iron bank the FM will send her to westeros Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marck Posted July 5, 2015 Share Posted July 5, 2015 They're triying to kill everyone, Baratheons fell, arya probably dies and sansa leaves and nowhere to be found. Mycrella dies and Lancel abandoned his family name and tyrion left kings landing. Danaerys getss captured or something Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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