1000th Lord Commander Posted June 30, 2015 Share Posted June 30, 2015 A curious omission in the books, I feel is that there are houses which we would expect to have/had Valyrian swords which don't. For instance, I would expect that each of the major houses would have had, at some point in history, a Valyrian sword, as well as certain others. So for entertainments sake, I'm going to list the houses that should have had a named sword, and name them. I would like people's thoughts, or you can add to my list. House Arryn - The Talon House Dundarron - Stormsong House Gardener - The Reaper House Tyrell - Longthorn House Velaryon - Fishfeeder Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TPTWP Timett Posted June 30, 2015 Share Posted June 30, 2015 House Greyjoy - Sowing Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andreas88 Posted June 30, 2015 Share Posted June 30, 2015 I don't see a direct reason why these houses should have a Valyrian sword, remember they cost a fortune and were very hard to come by. Anyway: House Baggins - Sting Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lady Blackmont Posted June 30, 2015 Share Posted June 30, 2015 We know lots of very poor houses have swords. There are something like 400 "Major" houses in Westeros (Ranging from the Stokeworths to the Tyrells) and there are 200+ Valyrian swords. That means that about half the houses we meet ought to have a weapon. The real question is why nobody gave Tobho Mott a basket of somewhat common Valyrian Daggers to melt down. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Posted June 30, 2015 Share Posted June 30, 2015 Not everyone could afford Valyrian Steel. Some houses lost theirs, maybe in combat. I would love to see a complete list of all the VS swords and houses. I'd love to read the stories those swords could tell if they could! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Posted June 30, 2015 Share Posted June 30, 2015 I don't see a direct reason why these houses should have a Valyrian sword, remember they cost a fortune and were very hard to come by. Anyway: House Baggins - Sting House Gollum: Precious! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Lannister Posted June 30, 2015 Share Posted June 30, 2015 . The real question is why nobody gave Tobho Mott a basket of somewhat common Valyrian Daggers to melt down. My pet theory, no textual evidence to back it up mind you, is that since daggers are smaller the VS in them doesn't have to be as "pure" as in full swords. Impure VS can produce a sturdy dagger but not a large sword. My head canon can get silly at times. :P Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cayrouse Posted June 30, 2015 Share Posted June 30, 2015 House Grafton- The Stranger's touch or if it has to be sigil appropriate Castleburner Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paxter Redwyne Posted June 30, 2015 Share Posted June 30, 2015 House Celtigar - Crab's claw Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cayrouse Posted June 30, 2015 Share Posted June 30, 2015 House Beesbury-Dard Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andreas88 Posted June 30, 2015 Share Posted June 30, 2015 We know lots of very poor houses have swords.There are something like 400 "Major" houses in Westeros (Ranging from the Stokeworths to the Tyrells) and there are 200+ Valyrian swords.That means that about half the houses we meet ought to have a weapon. The real question is why nobody gave Tobho Mott a basket of somewhat common Valyrian Daggers to melt down. Do you have any reference of this? I don't remember reading this anywhere, but that is probably my fault.If indeed half of the houses have a Valyrian sword, it would be strange that a lot of the most known houses don't mention it anywhere in the books. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
devilish Posted June 30, 2015 Share Posted June 30, 2015 I cant understand why the Lannisters hasn't bought one. Surely they can set a decent price for House Beesbury for their Dard Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ser Arthur Hightower Posted June 30, 2015 Share Posted June 30, 2015 Do you have any reference of this? I don't remember reading this anywhere, but that is probably my fault. If indeed half of the houses have a Valyrian sword, it would be strange that a lot of the most known houses don't mention it anywhere in the books. I believe Lady Blackmont's point was that there should be a lot more weapons that we know about if there were actually ~200 in Westeros, considering we can be fairly confident that a large number of mentioned houses don't have such weapons, it doesn't make sense that there are actually that many. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1000th Lord Commander Posted June 30, 2015 Author Share Posted June 30, 2015 I believe Lady Blackmont's point was that there should be a lot more weapons that we know about if there were actually ~200 in Westeros, considering we can be fairly confident that a large number of mentioned houses don't have such weapons, it doesn't make sense that there are actually that many. from the wiki Valyrian steel blades were scarce and costly, yet thousands remained in the world, perhaps two hundred in the Seven Kingdoms alone Tyrion IV aSoS chapter 32 I believe there is a quote at the point Ice is revealed as the two new swords that Tywin had thrice tried to buy swords from impoverised lesser houses but was rebuffed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PrinceHenryris Posted June 30, 2015 Share Posted June 30, 2015 I'd bet that a whole bunch of VS swords were melted into the Iron Throne. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PrinceHenryris Posted June 30, 2015 Share Posted June 30, 2015 I'd bet that a whole bunch of VS swords were melted into the Iron Throne. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PrinceHenryris Posted June 30, 2015 Share Posted June 30, 2015 Sorry for the double post.This site has gotten really balky. Search hasn't worked in months. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bluetiger Posted June 30, 2015 Share Posted June 30, 2015 I'd bet that a whole bunch of VS swords were melted into the Iron Throne.Iron Throne was made by melting swords of Aegon's fallen enemies ( mainly from Field of Fire). VS swords were too precious and Aegon knew that. I don't think that he would waste them...But there is a theory that all those normal swords became VS, when Balerion melted them with his dragonfire... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1000th Lord Commander Posted July 1, 2015 Author Share Posted July 1, 2015 interesting theory. I think it might take more than dragonfire though Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lady Blizzardborn Posted July 31, 2015 Share Posted July 31, 2015 House Celtigar - Crab's claw *in three-eyed alien voice* "The claw!" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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