john Posted July 2, 2015 Share Posted July 2, 2015 Let's get our Vaelin on again. There's not many books I'd buy on release date but I was excited about this one, despite the slight drop in quality for the middle book of the trilogy. Old thread (this thread covers a lot of stuff if you forgot what was going on so far) Read the first little bit so far and it seems to pick up directly after the end of the last book with Lyrna recovering, having been healed by Weaver, and setting out to reclaim the capital with an army full of Dark practitioners, who are now openly tolerated, at least officially. And Verniers is going after the Ally by researching him in books. So that's the setup. Looking forward to seeing the Volarian empire and how they're going to stop the Ally. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Corvinus85 Posted July 2, 2015 Share Posted July 2, 2015 Already released? On Amazon it says July 7th. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AncalagonTheBlack Posted July 2, 2015 Share Posted July 2, 2015 Already released? On Amazon it says July 7th. That's the US edition. I started this today and have only read chapter 1.Someone remind me again who Lady Reva and Lady Dahrena are ? :huh: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheRevanchist Posted July 2, 2015 Share Posted July 2, 2015 That's the US edition. I started this today and have only read chapter 1.Someone remind me again who Lady Reva and Lady Dahrena are ? :huh:Already released? That means that I have to rush the last book in the Black Company.Reva is the girl who did a 'Vaelin' in the last book. She started the book by trying to assasinate Vaelin (cause he killed her father) but in th end they were like brother and sister.I remember Dahrena name, but cannot remember who she is? One of those weird girls that Lyrna went to negotiate with? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
john Posted July 2, 2015 Author Share Posted July 2, 2015 Ah, didn't realise the US edition was out later. That might stifle discussion for a bit.Lady Reva is like the general of the Cumbrael army as well as their chosen one or whatever. She's the daughter of the Trueblade who was the religious leader that led a rebellion against the rest of the realm. She's also a badass warrior.Dahrena is the former Tower Lord's daughter, adopted from one of the northern tribes. She has the power go in a trance and leave her body to "fly" places and find people and so on. Possible love interest of Vaelin. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trickster Posted July 2, 2015 Share Posted July 2, 2015 Ah, didn't realise the US edition was out later. That might stifle discussion for a bit.Lady Reva is like the general of the Cumbrael army as well as their chosen one or whatever. She's the daughter of the Trueblade who was the religious leader that led a rebellion against the rest of the realm. She's also a badass warrior.Dahrena is the former Tower Lord's daughter, adopted from one of the northern tribes. She has the power go in a trance and leave her body to "fly" places and find people and so on. Possible love interest of Vaelin. To add to this Reva was one of the POV's from book 2. She was the one trained by the "priest" and the "witch" who led the Cumbrael forces during the siege of Alltor. Reva is the current Lady Governess of Cumbrael. Dahrena is the one who brought Vaelin back from the beyond at the end of Book 2. Spoiler Queen of FireI am about a 20% into Queen of fire and as of now she is Vaelin's lover Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AncalagonTheBlack Posted July 2, 2015 Share Posted July 2, 2015 Ah,i see,thanks guys.I remember Reva now.Might have to re-read the Dahrena chapters from book 2 as i don't recall much. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AncalagonTheBlack Posted July 4, 2015 Share Posted July 4, 2015 “Will your gift? I’ve yet to learn what manner of power you hold, and if I am to command this army, I should greatly like to know.” Caenis stood regarding him in silence, eyes intent and unblinking. Vaelin’s hand went to the hunting knife at his belt, gripping the handle tight, ready to draw it forth, stab it into his brother’s eye … He breathed out slowly, releasing the knife and finding his hand trembling. “So now you know, brother,” Caenis said before turning and walking away. So what exactly is Caenis's gift/power ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ᴛɪᴍᴏᴛʜʏ Posted July 4, 2015 Share Posted July 4, 2015 It'll become more clear later. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheRevanchist Posted July 7, 2015 Share Posted July 7, 2015 Finished the first three parts of the book. So far, extremely dissapointed (it is fr worse than the second book, let alone the first one).I hope that it gets better in the final 30% of the book, otherwise it will be the worst conclusion I've read in a fantasy saga. Note: I have the first two books rated as 4/5 in goodreads. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spear of the afternoon Posted July 7, 2015 Share Posted July 7, 2015 Finished the first three parts of the book. So far, extremely dissapointed (it is fr worse than the second book, let alone the first one).I hope that it gets better in the final 30% of the book, otherwise it will be the worst conclusion I've read in a fantasy saga. Note: I have the first two books rated as 4/5 in goodreads. I have to agree - I have finished the book and it was ok. I'd give it 3/5 and thats only because I have read the other two Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheRevanchist Posted July 7, 2015 Share Posted July 7, 2015 I have to agree - I have finished the book and it was ok. I'd give it 3/5 and thats only because I have read the other twoFinished it. Completely dissapointed.Without exagerating, it is the worst final book in a fantasy series I have ever read. The plot is bad, the war moments have been done bad, there are no dramatic moments like in the last books IMO, and the writing - which never was Ryan's bigest strength - is worse than in the previous books.It is significanty worse than the previous book, which in turn wasn't near as good as the first one. If the first book was a strong 4/5 and the second book a strong 3/5 (weak 4/5) then I think that this is a weak 2/5. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peterbound Posted July 7, 2015 Share Posted July 7, 2015 Dammit! I wanted this to be good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ᴛɪᴍᴏᴛʜʏ Posted July 7, 2015 Share Posted July 7, 2015 Yeah, this book sucked. I came to fantasy late and I’m pretty picky so I didn’t wade through the same pile of shit to get here that a lot of you folks have, but this could be the worst book I’ve ever read. Tower Lord was crap, but this is something else. Just a couple things. I don’t think it’s unreasonable to expect a single-POV novel to maintain that structure in any follow ups, and I want to know how other people feel about that. More importantly, I read the self-published version of Blood Song and it had better editing than its big pub sequels. Especially noticeable was that the author’s tendency to use commas as a one-size-fits-all punctuation and his weird aversion to conjunctions—he’s like the anti-Hemingway—stood out a lot less in the first book. But in every way, really, the writing was a lot tighter. Another thing that jumps out is that “clever” characters don’t really vary in their voice much. They all explain things “like this, you see, blah blah” and with respect to blah, blah, blah they invariably “(find it) curious, that blah blah blah.” Since they all tend to monologue, that gets old. (edit: on second thought, the monologue thing isn't very fair. No one really goes on for paragraphs at a time. I guess it just feels that way.) And “copious” might as well have been printed in 72-point comic sans everywhere it appeared. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
homedawg Posted July 7, 2015 Share Posted July 7, 2015 Damnit!! Had it reserved at my Barnes & Nobles, but hasn't made it out of their warehouse yet. Patience isn't one of my better qualities. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ferrum Aeternum Posted July 7, 2015 Share Posted July 7, 2015 I have to agree - I have finished the book and it was ok. I'd give it 3/5 and thats only because I have read the other two Finished it. Completely dissapointed.Without exagerating, it is the worst final book in a fantasy series I have ever read. Yeah, this book sucked. Jeesh...I pre-ordered this based on (mostly) digging the first two books so I guess I have to read it at some point, but y'all aren't giving me much hope. :stunned: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Calibandar Posted July 7, 2015 Share Posted July 7, 2015 Some of the reviews on Goodreads that are very negative and detailed how me really down on this 3rd book as well. The only part I liked reading was that Vaelin apparently travels across the ice, meeting cultures, people who control animals etc and that his storyline was interesting, even though the reviewer concluded he is a bystander at the end. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darth Richard II Posted July 7, 2015 Share Posted July 7, 2015 Well, everyone hated book two, but I loved it, so crossing fingers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheRevanchist Posted July 7, 2015 Share Posted July 7, 2015 Some of the reviews on Goodreads that are very negative and detailed how me really down on this 3rd book as well. The only part I liked reading was that Vaelin apparently travels across the ice, meeting cultures, people who control animals etc and that his storyline was interesting, even though the reviewer concluded he is a bystander at the end. Yep, this time Vaelin isn't exactly at the center of everything. About the best parts of the book, I would say that Vernier's account is comfortably the best POV (although there are only 5 short chapters). Well, everyone hated book two, but I loved it, so crossing fingers. While it was worse than the first book. I quite liked the second book. But, second book is 'War and Peace' compared with this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trickster Posted July 7, 2015 Share Posted July 7, 2015 Extremely disappointed with Queen of Fire. I absolutely loved Book 1 and thought Book 2 was quite good. But this one is a bloated piece of... Seems Ryan had not really planned any ending for his series. All the revelations about the Ally were quite lame. And I hate the way he neutered Vaelin. By the end of the book, it almost feels like this is more of a story of Lyrna, Frentis and Reva. Vernier was probably the best part of the story.I slogged through it just to see how the story ends. I even reread the first two books before I started this one. What a waste of time.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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