Is Planetos part of the Thousand Worlds?

[Poppa Chase]

Debate.

[Orphalesion]

Define.

What "Thousand Worlds" are you speaking of?

[Poppa Chase]

Martin has a lot of sci if books that are all set in the same universe and carry a lot of the same concepts. ASOIAF fits in really well.

[James of the Blackwater]

I belive so, alot of Martin's work revolve around collective consciousness vs individualism, and I believe the same thing is going on in ASOIAF

[Black Dragons]

Good question, but they will never found out on their own because look how long they stuck in medieval period. They still making swords and arrows.

[Dragon Seed]

There is no Planetos. Stop calling it Planetos. In the books there is not one mention of the word Planetos, however, there is text calling the world ......"Earth"

If whats written in the books is cannon then the world of Westeros and Essos is "Earth"

A Game of Thrones - Eddard XIII

Ned regarded him coldly. "Robert is not dead yet. The gods may spare him. If not, I shall convene the council to hear his final words and consider the matter of the succession, but I will not dishonor his last hours on earth by shedding blood in his halls and dragging frightened children from their beds."

**** Just a little pet peeve of mine. :cheers:

[Poppa Chase]

There is no Planetos. Stop calling it Planetos. In the books there is not one mention of the word Planetos, however, there is text calling the world ......"Earth"

If whats written in the books is cannon then the world of Westeros and Essos is "Earth" A Game of Thrones - Eddard XIII

Ned regarded him coldly. "Robert is not dead yet. The gods may spare him. If not, I shall convene the council to hear his final words and consider the matter of the succession, but I will not dishonor his last hours on earth by shedding blood in his halls and dragging frightened children from their beds."

**** Just a little pet peeve of mine. :cheers:

Planetos planetos planetos

[Esa1996]

There is no Planetos. Stop calling it Planetos. In the books there is not one mention of the word Planetos, however, there is text calling the world ......"Earth"

If whats written in the books is cannon then the world of Westeros and Essos is "Earth"

A Game of Thrones - Eddard XIII

Ned regarded him coldly. "Robert is not dead yet. The gods may spare him. If not, I shall convene the council to hear his final words and consider the matter of the succession, but I will not dishonor his last hours on earth by shedding blood in his halls and dragging frightened children from their beds."

**** Just a little pet peeve of mine. :cheers:

PLANETOS

Sorry, had to do it. :D

There's magic in ASOIAF and little to no technological progression so I don't think it's a part of anything larger. It's irrelevant anyways.

[LordStoneheart]

It could be "Old Terra" in pre-space flight time, but I doubt it. I think it's its own contained universe.

There is no Planetos. Stop calling it Planetos. In the books there is not one mention of the word Planetos, however, there is text calling the world ......"Earth"

I know exactly what you mean, and I've made this point before, but for the sake of the thread Planetos works just fine. (But death to GRRTH.)

[Jojen Pasta]

There is no Planetos. Stop calling it Planetos. In the books there is not one mention of the word Planetos, however, there is text calling the world ......"Earth"

If whats written in the books is cannon then the world of Westeros and Essos is "Earth"

A Game of Thrones - Eddard XIII

Ned regarded him coldly. "Robert is not dead yet. The gods may spare him. If not, I shall convene the council to hear his final words and consider the matter of the succession, but I will not dishonor his last hours on earth by shedding blood in his halls and dragging frightened children from their beds."

**** Just a little pet peeve of mine. :cheers:

earth:

the substance of the land surface; soil.

"a layer of earth"

synonyms: soil, clay, loam; More

Earth and earth are different. They don't specifically call the planet Earth, and thus, the planet may be called Planetos seeing as no other name has been provided.

The word earth is used many many times in the series, but it ALWAYS refers to the second definition, as referenced above.

[Beorn Snow]

We´ll never know. I don´t think so though.

[Lady Blackmont]

This would be awful.

As I have said, George breaking hundreds of tropes only to reuse ideas from his other stories would be incredibly LAME.

Yeah, just like two dozen other books I wrote, the COTF are evil hive minded organisms set to destroy humanity. Isn't this refreshing.

[Bluetiger]

"To the west, Aegon Targaryen met a warmer welcome. The greatest city in all of Westeros, Oldtown was ringed about with massive walls and ruled by the Hightowers of Hightower, the oldest, richest, and most powerful of the noble houses of the Reach. Oldtown was also the center of the Faith. There dwelt the High Septon, Father of the Faithful, the voice of the new gods on earth, who commanded the obedience of millions of the devout throughout the realms (save in the North, where the old gods still held sway), and the blades of the Faith Militant, the fighting orders the smallfolk called the Stars and Swords."

" According to their faith, the ironborn are a race apart from the common run of mankind. "We did not come to these holy islands from godless lands across the seas," the priest Sauron Salt-Tongue once said. "We came from beneath those seas, from the watery halls of the Drowned God who made us in his likeness and gave to us dominion over all the waters of the earth" - if this doesn't call this planet Earth, I'm Donald Duck...

" Many of the more primitive peoples of the earth worship a fertility god or goddess, and Garth Greenhand has much and more in common with these deities. It was Garth who first taught men to farm, it is said. Before him, all men were hunters and gatherers, rootless wanderers forever in search of sustenance, until Garth gave them the gift of seed and showed them how to plant and sow, how to raise crops and reap the harvest. (In some tales, he tried to teach the elder races as well, but the giants roared at him and pelted him with boulders, whilst the children laughed and told him that "

" the wind cannot find purchase. Archmaester Vyron, in his Triumphs and Defeats, speculates that the tale's claim that the final form of Storm's End was the seventh castle shows a clear Andal influence, and if true, this suggests the possibility that the final form of the castle was only achieved in Andal times. Mayhaps the castle was rebuilt on the site of earlier castles, but if so, it was long after Durran Godsgrief and his fair Elenei had passed from this earth."

" Lys, the most beautiful of the Free Cities, enjoys what is perhaps the most salubrious climate in all the known world. Bathed by cool breezes, warmed by the sun, on a fertile island where palms and fruit trees grow in profusion, surrounded by blue-green waters teeming with fish, "Lys the Lovely" was founded as a retreat by the dragonlords of old Valyria, a paradise where they might refresh themselves with fine wines and sweet maids and soothing musics before returning to the fires of the Freehold. To this day, Lys remains "a feast for the senses, a balm for the soul." Its pillow houses are famed through all the world, and sunsets here are said to be more beautiful than anywhere else on earth. The Lyseni themselves are beautiful as well, for here more than anywhere else in the known world the old Valyrian bloodlines still run strong.

The truth of the combined strength of Myr, Lys, and Tyrosh was proved when these three cities did in fact unite, albeit briefly, in the aftermath of their victory over Volantis at the Battle of the Borderland. Pledging eternal friendship with one another, they came together in 96 AC as the Triarchy, though in Westeros their union was best known as the Kingdom of the Three Daughters. The Triarchy began with the stated aim of cleansing the Stepstones of pirates and corsairs. This was welcomed in the Seven Kingdoms and elsewhere at first, for the pirates greatly stifled trade. The Three Daughters won a swift victory over the pirates, only to begin to demand increasingly exorbitant tolls of passing swifts after gaining control of the islands and the channels between. Soon their rapaciousness surpassed that of the pirates they replacedespecially when the Lyseni started demanding handsome youths and beautiful maidens as their toll.

The World of Ice and Fire - The Free Cities: Braavos

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The World of Ice and Fire - The Free Cities: Braavos

Today Braavos is one of the world's greatest ports and welcomes trading ships of all nations (save for slavers). Within the vast lagoon, Braavosi ships dock at the splendid Purple Harbor, located near the Sealord's Palace. Other vessels must use the port called the Ragman's Harbor, a poorer and rougher port by all accounts. Still, there is so much wealth to be had in Braavos that ships come from as far as Qarth and the Summer Isles to trade there.

Braavos is also home to one of the most powerful banks in the world, whose roots stretch back to the beginnings of the city, when a few of the fugitives took to hiding such valuables as they had in an abandoned iron mine to keep them safe from thieves and pirates. As the city grew and prospered, the shafts and chambers of the mine began to fill. Rather than let their treasure sit idle in the earth, the wealthier Braavosi began to make loans to their less fortunate brethren.

Thus was born the Iron Bank of Braavos, whose renown (or infamy, to hear some tell it) now extends to every corner of the known world. Kings, princes, archons, triarchs, and merchants beyond count travel from the ends of the earth to seek loans from the heavily guarded vaults of the Iron Bank."

[Jojen Pasta]

If "earth" isn't capitalized, it isn't a name. If it isn't a name, it's referring to the literal terrain of the planet.

[LordStoneheart]

The word earth is used many many times in the series, but it ALWAYS refers to the second definition, as referenced above.

That's incorrect. Do a search for earth and you'll see it's used for the entirety of the world they live on.

[Jojen Pasta]

That's incorrect. Do a search for earth and you'll see it's used for the entirety of the world they live on.

The entirety of the TERRAIN that they live on, It's never used as a name i.e. Earth instead of earth. If someone can show me where GRRM writes earth with a capital E, I'll admit that I'm wrong.

[LordStoneheart]

The entirety of the TERRAIN that they live on, It's never used as a name i.e. Earth instead of earth. If someone can show me where GRRM writes earth with a capital E, I'll admit that I'm wrong.

You are wrong because it doesn't need a capital E. How can the word for soil be specifically earth and the world for the world not be earth? That makes no sense.

There is no creature on earth half so terrifying as a truly just man.

Think what you will, but this quote clearly shows that it is used as a world term. Is the moon not the moon either? Is the sun not the sun?

[Jojen Pasta]

You are wrong because it doesn't need a capital E.

Sorry, what language do you speak where names don't need to be capitalized?

Sun and moon don't need to be capitalized, but Earth, when referring to the celestial body, as compared to any other planet like Mars or Venus, does.

[LordStoneheart]

Sorry, what language do you speak where names don't need to be capitalized?

I speak common sense. Their world is medieval-based. They are not thinking about the universe in terms of space travel. GRRM has also confirmed the world is just Earth, but basically in a different universe. No one will stop you from getting hung up on one capital E but it is a strange detail to base a case on, especially when ignoring the other aspects.

[Jojen Pasta]

I speak common sense. Their world is medieval-based. They are not thinking about the universe in terms of space travel. GRRM has also confirmed the world is just Earth, but basically in a different universe. No one will stop you from getting hung up on one capital E but it is a strange detail to base a case on, especially when ignoring the other aspects.

I'm just saying, you can't dismiss it being called Planetos, because it has never *in the books* been called anything else by name. It's up to whoever wants to name it to call it what they will. You can call it Earth all you want, but if you do, you can't tell someone who calls it Planetos that they're wrong.

You could call it Janos Slyntos for all I care.