The Marquis de Leech Posted August 3, 2015 Share Posted August 3, 2015 For a famous person who is running a presidential campaign, I have heard barely anything from her for months. It could be she is dealing with her own legal troubles, but its almost as if she has fallen asleep or has just sequestered herself away. Simple. At this point, going hell for leather would be counter-productive for Hillary. She's got the money, name recognition, and organisation already. She doesn't need to be in the news, especially when all it does is open her to attack. Better to lie low for now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Squab Posted August 3, 2015 Share Posted August 3, 2015 As i am not american, but am interested, i see a few things in the news that don't really get explained. What is the difference between a socialist and a democrat? i read some lady named Debbie Wasserman Schultz couldn't explain the difference but should apparently know. I figure she was more trying to push the direction of the interview elsewhere rather than didnt know but i am interested. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThinkerX Posted August 3, 2015 Share Posted August 3, 2015 When you think about it, that reason doesn't really hold water. You could just as easily back Iran in a war against ISIS and get your conflict that way.Point taken. I do see a fair bit of idiotic right wing stuff on Facebook arguing for an attack on ISIS - with lots of enthusiastic support. When I point out what happened with the last few US military middle eastern adventures, the commenters don't seem to care. 'This time we'll do it right.'But Iran...Neocons here in the US have been drooling at the prospect of attacking Iran since the Iraq invasion, if not before. Given the opportunity, they'll take it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Marquis de Leech Posted August 3, 2015 Share Posted August 3, 2015 As i am not american, but am interested, i see a few things in the news that don't really get explained. What is the difference between a socialist and a democrat? i read some lady named Debbie Wasserman Schultz couldn't explain the difference but should apparently know. I figure she was more trying to push the direction of the interview elsewhere rather than didnt know but i am interested. Socialist = someone who supports socialism. A left-wing ideology. Democrat = a supporter or member of the Democratic Party, which generally represents positions ranging from the centre-right to mainstream left. Calling Democrats socialists generally implies you're dealing with some right-wing Republican who thinks their opponents are commies. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ants Posted August 3, 2015 Share Posted August 3, 2015 Why is the deal a good thing? Isn't it just kicking the can down the road, and giving Hamas and Hezbollah potentially $50 billion? But then again, Hamas and Hezb are just peaceful freedom fighters, fighting against western colonialism right?The main reason the deal is a good thing is because if there is no deal, or too poor a deal, then Russia, China and possibly some parts of the EU will cease sanctions. In which case sanctions fall apart and those against a nuclear Iran get nothing. So the US has to do some type of deal to get what controls it can, while within a framework of what Russia/China will see as reasonable.This is something the Republican legislators seem to like to ignore in their arguments. Because its all about the US. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Biglose Posted August 3, 2015 Share Posted August 3, 2015 Why is the deal a good thing? Isn't it just kicking the can down the road, and giving Hamas and Hezbollah potentially $50 billion? But then again, Hamas and Hezb are just peaceful freedom fighters, fighting against western colonialism right? Well, Hezbollah is mainly fighting against ISIS at the time so.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Commodore Posted August 3, 2015 Share Posted August 3, 2015 When are the Democratic primary debates? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fez Posted August 3, 2015 Share Posted August 3, 2015 When are the Democratic primary debates? Whenever the DNC cares to schedule them. There will be six of them before the Iowa caucus, which is plenty. Too much actually, considering what a farce they are, but they are expected of primary seasons, so whatevs. Presumably they will continue to hold off on scheduling any until its certain whether Biden is in or out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IheartIheartTesla Posted August 3, 2015 Share Posted August 3, 2015 What is the difference between a socialist and a democrat? i read some lady named Debbie Wasserman Schultz couldn't explain the difference but should apparently know. Socialist - Democrat = Karl Marx Its math. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hayyoth Posted August 3, 2015 Share Posted August 3, 2015 Id love to be corrected on this, but I get the sense Hillary Clinton might drop out of the race. For a famous person who is running a presidential campaign, I have heard barely anything from her for months. It could be she is dealing with her own legal troubles, but its almost as if she has fallen asleep or has just sequestered herself away. She seems one of those candidates who looks very good on paper (experienced, qualified, etc.) but is not that great in practice. She has been in the national spotlight nearly as long as I've been alive, she is a bit tone-deaf and rigid, and she just seems so tired. Her's is not an upbeat campaign, and apart from some lines about "fighting for the middle class" it doesn't seem "Hope and Change 2.0". She doesn't look like she is having fun at all, and the contrast in her demeanor is quite noticeble between this time and her 2008 run. I actually believe its quite possible O'Malley or Sanders will get the nod instead of her. Hillary is doing what Hillary does, it's certainly not a marker of a lack of ambition on her part. She has such a deep and ingrained sense of entitlement that she literally believes that the position of POTUS is hers by right (of being Hillary I guess). If anyone lived through the 2008 Dem primaries and didn't realize this by now then you've been asleep. Besides she's such a known quantity what's the point of her campaigning? Her policies will be whatever she thinks will get her through the primaries with minimum spend and then she'll tack markedly right for the general, leaving the left of her party feeling betrayed but not to worry they'll vote for her anyway coz she's better than the Republican. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hayyoth Posted August 3, 2015 Share Posted August 3, 2015 The main reason the deal is a good thing is because if there is no deal, or too poor a deal, then Russia, China and possibly some parts of the EU will cease sanctions. In which case sanctions fall apart and those against a nuclear Iran get nothing. So the US has to do some type of deal to get what controls it can, while within a framework of what Russia/China will see as reasonable. This is something the Republican legislators seem to like to ignore in their arguments. Because its all about the US. This is all true and it's also true that Obama is thinking about his legacy. He's a President whose signature achievements while in office are a health insurance bailout and shaving 2 points of his handicap. So even deals which amount to caving in on every substantive issue (Cuba/Iran) are better than nothing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reny of Storms End Posted August 3, 2015 Share Posted August 3, 2015 Hillary is doing what Hillary does, it's certainly not a marker of a lack of ambition on her part. She has such a deep and ingrained sense of entitlement that she literally believes that the position of POTUS is hers by right (of being Hillary I guess). If anyone lived through the 2008 Dem primaries and didn't realize this by now then you've been asleep. Besides she's such a known quantity what's the point of her campaigning? Her policies will be whatever she thinks will get her through the primaries with minimum spend and then she'll tack markedly right for the general, leaving the left of her party feeling betrayed but not to worry they'll vote for her anyway coz she's better than the Republican. The old Mitt Romney strategy. ETA: In response to your second post, would you mind providing links, or just saying it yourself, what exactly were the issues in each deal that the President just caved in on? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TrackerNeil Posted August 3, 2015 Share Posted August 3, 2015 Simple. At this point, going hell for leather would be counter-productive for Hillary. She's got the money, name recognition, and organisation already. She doesn't need to be in the news, especially when all it does is open her to attack. Better to lie low for now. Another sign that Clinton has learned some valuable lessons from 2007. Right now Trump is sucking up all the media oxygen, so as the Democratic frontrunner Clinton is wise to stay out of the spotlight and let the press focus on how that fool is embarrassing his party. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fragile Bird Posted August 3, 2015 Share Posted August 3, 2015 This just popped up on my Facebook page, has it been mentioned already? Donald Trump thinks the United States will not see another black president for some time because Barack Obama has "set a very poor standard," the billionaire businessman, entertainer and Republican presidential candidate told ABC News on Sunday. Trump -- who has questioned whether Obama was born in the United States and was once sued by the Justice Department because the management of his apartment complexes allegedly discriminated against black tenants -- also thinks he'll win the black vote.Trump responded to a question on the show about a tweet he sent last year saying America would not see another black president for generations because of how poorly he thought Obama had done."He has done nothing for African Americans. You look at what's gone on with their income levels. You look at what's gone on with their youth. I thought that he would be a great cheerleader for this country. I thought he'd do a fabulous job for the African American citizens of this country. He has done nothing," Trump said."They have problems now in terms of unemployment numbers, look at their unemployment numbers. And you have -- here you have a black president who's done very poorly for the African Americans of this country," Trump said. "I think that I will win the African American vote and I think I will win the Hispanic vote."http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/donald-trump-no-black-presidents-obama_55be34c3e4b06363d5a27ec4?cps=gravity_2448_6122247235836650390%3Futm_hp_ref%3Dcanada&ir=Canada§ion=canada&adsSiteOverride=caETA: I don't mean the original quote, when he wasn't running, I meant Sunday's interview. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Manhole Eunuchsbane Posted August 3, 2015 Share Posted August 3, 2015 This is all true and it's also true that Obama is thinking about his legacy. He's a President whose signature achievements while in office are a health insurance bailout and shaving 2 points of his handicap. So even deals which amount to caving in on every substantive issue (Cuba/Iran) are better than nothing. Damn sight better than sinking trillions of dollars into a failed war, overseeing the most devastating terrorist attack this country has ever faced, and watching as Wall St. tanked our economy and then arm-barred the government into a massive bailout. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Biglose Posted August 3, 2015 Share Posted August 3, 2015 This is all true and it's also true that Obama is thinking about his legacy. He's a President whose signature achievements while in office are a health insurance bailout and shaving 2 points of his handicap. So even deals which amount to caving in on every substantive issue (Cuba/Iran) are better than nothing. Even if you take only the negative Obama did and ignore everything positiv, the record ain't that bad compared to Bush and I would even say Clinton.(looking back) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
All-for-Joffrey Posted August 3, 2015 Share Posted August 3, 2015 When are the Democratic primary debates? Tentative dates are here but no official confirmations from the DNC yet: http://www.uspresidentialelectionnews.com/2016-debate-schedule/2016-democratic-primary-debate-schedule/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DanteGabriel Posted August 3, 2015 Share Posted August 3, 2015 Damn sight better than sinking trillions of dollars into a failed war, overseeing the most devastating terrorist attack this country has ever faced, and watching as Wall St. tanked our economy and then arm-barred the government into a massive bailout. Don't forget the normalization of torture and indefinite detention, and letting an American city drown because you installed a literal show ponies specialist as head of FEMA! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hayyoth Posted August 3, 2015 Share Posted August 3, 2015 The old Mitt Romney strategy. ETA: In response to your second post, would you mind providing links, or just saying it yourself, what exactly were the issues in each deal that the President just caved in on? Hows about all of them? The best you can say about the Iran deal is that they likely have the A bomb already so why not just give them whatever they want, pretend we've done something, and then hopefully we don't have to go to war on behalf of the Israelis in a few years. Cuba though? No idea what he was thinking there. Damn sight better than sinking trillions of dollars into a failed war, overseeing the most devastating terrorist attack this country has ever faced, and watching as Wall St. tanked our economy and then arm-barred the government into a massive bailout. All true but note that Obama's achievements mainly consist of stuff he hasn't done. As a rule I approve of politicians who don't do anything. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Inigima Posted August 3, 2015 Share Posted August 3, 2015 I would prefer Sanders, but I'd vote for Uncle Joe in the general. If Clinton is the nominee I'm probably voting third-party. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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