Veltigar Posted July 31, 2015 Share Posted July 31, 2015 I actually wanted to name the thread Transubstantiation, but that would have been a bit to spoilery I think :) Yeah it was great. I can already tell it will be my favorite red dragon adaptation. Its pretty awesome having all the background of the first two seasons playing a part in this story that's been told multiple times, makes it stand out. On Armitage [spoiler] I liked his scenes with Reba Mclane but I'm not feeling his excessive twitching and freaking out and shit he's doing even though the tail scene was pretty fucking weird [/spoiler] I agree that the twitching doesn't really do it for me as well. And now that you mention the [spoiler]tail[/spoiler] was I the only one who thought that the VFX was pretty bad this episode? It's not just the [spoiler]tail but also Will looking in the mirror [/spoiler] it was all a bit off on that front. Another thing I forgot to mention, I miss Hannibal's suits. How dare they put him in an ugly prison uniform :( Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kairparavel Posted July 31, 2015 Share Posted July 31, 2015 Your quote reveals a spoiler. How to fix? *I get this is a spoiler thread but it hasn't aired in the US yet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Veltigar Posted July 31, 2015 Author Share Posted July 31, 2015 Your quote reveals a spoiler. How to fix? *I get this is a spoiler thread but it hasn't aired in the US yet. I fixed it. I tried to quote Mark Anthony's last post from the previous thread, but that doesn't work after the thread is closed. So I had to copy paste and something went wrong there. I'm terribly sorry :( Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kairparavel Posted July 31, 2015 Share Posted July 31, 2015 I fixed it. I tried to quote Mark Anthony's last post from the previous thread, but that doesn't work after the thread is closed. So I had to copy paste and something went wrong there. I'm terribly sorry :( No worries! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kairparavel Posted July 31, 2015 Share Posted July 31, 2015 Another thing I forgot to mention, I miss Hannibal's suits. How dare they put him in an ugly prison uniform :( Me too! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tyrion the Perfect Posted August 2, 2015 Share Posted August 2, 2015 Ok, here's the new thread. Maybe I'am missing something obvious, but is there a reason why there haven't been trailers for the next episode the last couple of weeks? My local station is pretty backwater, but I don't think it is them. Another thing I forgot to mention, I miss Hannibal's suits. How dare they put him in an ugly prison uniform :( Hannibal is a monster now in lockdown. He seems quite dapper when he adjourns to his "memory palace". Or Will's. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VitaBrevis Posted August 4, 2015 Share Posted August 4, 2015 Hugh Dancy has been signed in 'The Way'. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Antony Posted August 4, 2015 Share Posted August 4, 2015 So it's done then, at least for a few years until schedules possibly open up but ya RIP Hannibal :( Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Humble AK Posted August 4, 2015 Share Posted August 4, 2015 Depressing, but if they end the season well and give it at least some sense of finality perhaps it won't be so bad. Silence of the Lambs is a great follow up, and so you can just have that brilliant duology. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
red snow Posted August 6, 2015 Share Posted August 6, 2015 Watched the last episode. I think I've been a bit down on the show now I know it's ending and I'm possibly easing my way into the grief of cancellation. Still, I'm finding the show dull in places. Do we really need more Abigail? She got more screentime than the tooth fairy! Move on. I'm still at a loss about Hannibal's 5* luxury prison. I keep waiting for the reveal that he's in a crappy cell and all of this is just him projecting his memory palace on to us. He's probably eating gruel for all we know. I just don't see how anyone would justify how he could live in such relative comfort. I still think they can wrap this up this season though. Part of me actually thinks it may be good to stop now before it gets overly silly. I just hope it's not a cliffhanger. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
red snow Posted August 8, 2015 Share Posted August 8, 2015 Another thing I forget to mention was how much I like the handling of Will's family. All the ingredients are there for it to appear to be a healthy relationship yet somehow, through the direction, acting and subtext it rings incredibly false - like we know this is Will pretending to have a healthy substitute to Hannibal. That's really well done and requires some fine balancing. I'll spoiler the rest as it's an episode that may not have aired in the US yet. [spoiler] interesting to get the true story behind Bedelia. So she was never attacked? Red Dragon is ok but it almost feels like they could have fleshed out several of the first season killers the same way. I did like the commentary on art and how it has the power to change people. Maybe not the way we'd like to think! The consuming of the original art provoked a nice mixture of compassion (for someone being so obsessed with something) and revulsion (at someone destroying a piece of art). I'm looking forward to Freddie's scene next week, I expect. [/spoiler] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jack Bauer 24 Posted August 8, 2015 Share Posted August 8, 2015 Only 3 episodes left :( Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
red snow Posted August 8, 2015 Share Posted August 8, 2015 Only 3 episodes left :( I think it's enough to wrap up red dragon (I know I was complaing it would be rushed several weeks ago!). My main concern is that it ends with a cliffhanger like season 2. That would be painful. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Consigliere Posted August 8, 2015 Share Posted August 8, 2015 I think it's enough to wrap up red dragon (I know I was complaing it would be rushed several weeks ago!). My main concern is that it ends with a cliffhanger like season 2. That would be painful. Probably ends with Hannibal's escape. Really sad that we won't get to see Fuller's take on the culmination of Hannibal's story. I found the book to be rather unsatisfying. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wise Fool Posted August 9, 2015 Share Posted August 9, 2015 Regarding the latest episode: Okay, what the fuck is going on? (This is also my comment for every episode of every season. There is no right answer.) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
red snow Posted August 9, 2015 Share Posted August 9, 2015 Probably ends with Hannibal's escape. Really sad that we won't get to see Fuller's take on the culmination of Hannibal's story. I found the book to be rather unsatisfying. Did we ever get a proper ending in the book? I'm with you on unsatisfying if "hannibal" book was the final installment on the character. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Consigliere Posted August 9, 2015 Share Posted August 9, 2015 Did we ever get a proper ending in the book? I'm with you on unsatisfying if "hannibal" book was the final installment on the character. It was as far as I know - "Hannibal Rising" was a prequel. I actually preferred the film version of the ending of "Hannibal". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kindly Old Man Posted August 9, 2015 Share Posted August 9, 2015 The scene with Quinto/Will/Bedelia was awesome. My reading of what happened with Quinto's character is: Hannibal somehow influenced him to start choking on his tongue during therapy, Bedelia went to help him but then decided to kill him instead (like in her crushing the bird story). I'm not sure though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ghosts in winterfell Posted August 9, 2015 Share Posted August 9, 2015 I really loved this show in its first season. I remember desperately hoping it wouldn't get cancelled, but I stopped caring halfway through season 2. Tbh I'm surprised it lasted this long, they really jumped the shark with that second elaborate frame job. Michael Pitt was one of the few saving graces, IMO. I haven't kept up since it got shoved to Saturday nights, is it worth getting back into? I tried to give the new season a chance, but I feel like it's spiraling into a parody if itself. Everything that used to be great about this show started to make it totally unwatchable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Veltigar Posted August 10, 2015 Author Share Posted August 10, 2015 Oh, I'm really really going to miss this show :crying: This was another great episode. The fact that we won't get more of this greatness is tearing me up inside. The entire revelation about Bedelia's back story was brilliant, even by this show's superbly high standards. I loved everything about it and I have to say I really did not see that one coming. The writing is truly incredible. And the way they set up the revelation was great as well. From Bedelia's initial Dante lecture (apt considering Hannibal did one earlier) to the way her conversation with Will (so many double entendres) transitioned in and out of the flashback. This is really great stuff. Bedelia is such a great character, it's like Brian Fuller understood that that character just had to be there to complement the story. This series really is a cut above all the other adaptations I have seen and even the book (Silence of the Lambs) I read. I loved the rest of the episode as well. Armitagh has some great shoes to fill, but he's doing a very good job so far. Of course, he's helped by the great writing and direction this series has. A bit of an unfair advantage since Fiennes was impeded by that hack Brett Ratner. Still, he's done a fine job. I liked the eating of the painting much better here and I think that the tiger scene, with that lovely colour scheme (it looks so much better than the film) was magnificent. They really sold me on the majesty of that beast. I also really liked his interaction with Hannibal, particularly when we saw his image of himself. The CGI was so delightfully cheesy that it was great. The only thing that doesn't have me raving is the blind girl. She's serviceable, but not much more imo. I have only ever seen her "act" in True Blood (what a crock of shit) and she's not that much better here imo. Which is very strange when you look at the massive quality advantage this series has over TB. She's not actively bad of course, but when you have so many great castmembers it is really noticeable when someone isn't up to snuff. EDIT: This is a good reading of Blake's The Tyger from which Hannibal quoted a line this week :D EDIT: I also forgot to mention the humour in this episode, which was yet again great. 'He sends me recipes' in particular was a great line. And the reference to Scientology was also pretty swell. The writers are so very, very witty :) The scene with Quinto/Will/Bedelia was awesome. My reading of what happened with Quinto's character is: Hannibal somehow influenced him to start choking on his tongue during therapy, Bedelia went to help him but then decided to kill him instead (like in her crushing the bird story). I'm not sure though. I think you're almost completely correct. I think what Bedelia said to Quinto was the trigger for the choking. A trigger that was obviously hypno-programmed into Quinto by our favourite psychiater. I do not think Bedelia consciously decided to kill him though, it's more like she couldn't resist. Her hand was - quite literally - forced :P I think that was Hannibal's plan all along.. Bedelia is such an ice queen and she has perfect control over her urges (i.e. wanting to crush the wounded bird), so Hannibal engineered the perfect storm for her to lose control and give in to her urge to kill. From that moment on, she was in his thrall. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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