KingStannisFan Posted July 31, 2015 Share Posted July 31, 2015 Why would he agree to marry his daughter to a man who would cheat on her and have bastards, etc.? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fat Mac Posted July 31, 2015 Share Posted July 31, 2015 Robert had one bastard at the time. It's not a super big deal, especially when considering the amount of power Robert brings to the union. He's a Lord Paramount in his own right, and cousin to the royal family. I'm sure Rickard would still make a deal. Also, Rickard would assume Robert would stop his infidelities, which he might (at least try). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LiveFirstDieLater Posted July 31, 2015 Share Posted July 31, 2015 On the grand scale of ASoIaF sins having a bastard before you get married isn't turning any heads... It's not even infidelity or cheating as if those mattered that much Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red Tiger Posted July 31, 2015 Share Posted July 31, 2015 Please keep in mind that many lords have the idea that their daughter is nothing more than a tool to get more political influence. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darkstream Posted July 31, 2015 Share Posted July 31, 2015 Politics, just like every other arranged marriage. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marsyao Posted July 31, 2015 Share Posted July 31, 2015 Robert had one bastard at the time. It's not a super big deal, especially when considering the amount of power Robert brings to the union. He's a Lord Paramount in his own right, and cousin to the royal family. I'm sure Rickard would still make a deal. Also, Rickard would assume Robert would stop his infidelities, which he might (at least try). It was not consier immoral even if a married man to have a mistress and have a few bastards, as long as he treat his own family decent enough up to the standard of that society and do not forget The marriage between Lyanna and Robert was at least part of political marriage, Rickard would become a laughting stock among the great Lords if he disapprove this marriage just because Robert's womanizing Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marsyao Posted July 31, 2015 Share Posted July 31, 2015 Robert had one bastard at the time. It's not a super big deal, especially when considering the amount of power Robert brings to the union. He's a Lord Paramount in his own right, and cousin to the royal family. I'm sure Rickard would still make a deal. Also, Rickard would assume Robert would stop his infidelities, which he might (at least try). It was not consier immoral even if a married man to have a mistress and have a few bastards, as long as he treat his own family decent enough up to the standard of that society and do not forget The marriage between Lyanna and Robert was at least part of political marriage, Rickard would become a laughting stock among the great Lords if he disapprove this marriage just because Robert's womanizing Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CJ McLannister Posted July 31, 2015 Share Posted July 31, 2015 Why would he agree to marry his daughter to a man who would cheat on her and have bastards, etc.? Because he had southron ambitions. Whatever that means. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KingStannisFan Posted July 31, 2015 Author Share Posted July 31, 2015 Please keep in mind that many lords have the idea that their daughter is nothing more than a tool to get more political influence. The Starks are honorable to a fault though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red Tiger Posted July 31, 2015 Share Posted July 31, 2015 The Starks are honorable to a fault though. Only because Ned's in charge. It's mentioned that the previous Starks (though we don't know how far) were harsh and cruel. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CJ McLannister Posted July 31, 2015 Share Posted July 31, 2015 The Starks are honorable to a fault though. Ned was. Brandon seems to have been somewhat less honorable. Even if Lord Rickard was more of Ned's persuasion, he understood the realities of life. Robert might have a dozen bastards, but only his wife's children would inherit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Triceratops Posted July 31, 2015 Share Posted July 31, 2015 Ned got his honor from Jon Arryn. Rickard could've been a nice guy, or he could've secretly been Roose Bolton beta version. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eli Stark Posted July 31, 2015 Share Posted July 31, 2015 You're looking at this through modern day lenses. Throughout most of history, daughters were treated as bargaining chips for the nobility. A way to tie houses together to strengthen their position. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marsyao Posted July 31, 2015 Share Posted July 31, 2015 You're looking at this through modern day lenses. Throughout most of history, daughters were treated as bargaining chips for the nobility. A way to tie houses together to strengthen their position. To be fair, that was not much the difference for the sons of the great noble house, their marriage usually would be political marriages to the benefit of their houses, but we should not jump to the conclusion that these political marriage could not become a happy marriage Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
XSarellaX Posted July 31, 2015 Share Posted July 31, 2015 I don't think marrital fidelity was considered as important back then as it is for us now. And apart from that, Robert was an okay guy. He was a good fighter, he was handsome, he isn't the sort of person who would mistreat his wife (Cersei is a especial case), he's Ned's best friend, he is a powerful lord.... I'm sure Rickard thought Lyanna would be happy. Sure, he seems to like sleeping around, but no one's perfect.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CJ McLannister Posted July 31, 2015 Share Posted July 31, 2015 II'm sure Rickard thought Lyanna would be happy. Happy enough certainly. Would she be happier with boring cold Stannis? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jon's Queen Consort Posted July 31, 2015 Share Posted July 31, 2015 Why would he agree to marry his daughter to a man who would cheat on her and have bastards, etc.? You seem awfully sure that Robert would continue to have that kind of lifestyle if he was married with Lyanna. How you can be so sure? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Agency of Sansa Stark Posted July 31, 2015 Share Posted July 31, 2015 He should have set her up with Karl Fookin' Tanner, the Legend of Gin Alley Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Agency of Sansa Stark Posted July 31, 2015 Share Posted July 31, 2015 He should have set her up with Karl Fookin' Tanner, the Legend of Gin Alley Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AerionBrightflameII Posted July 31, 2015 Share Posted July 31, 2015 He would only know at that point that he was great friends with Ned and he would bring the power of Storms End to the union. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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