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There is many people that say that Bran will help defeating the Others. I don't see how Bran could help fighting the Others. (Who is clearly on the ice side besides Mel saw him in her visions as the hero of the Great Others.) However i think that Bran will be with the Others in the final huge battle and will die but i think that in the battle he will be not just a warg but a fighter warg he will be fighting with an icy sword and warging too. That's what i think. So what do you guys think ? 

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But Mel didn't see Bran as the hero of the Great Other. She saw a vision of Bloodraven with Bran, and simply assumed BR was the 'enemy'.

ADwD, Melosandre:

“A face took shape within the hearth. Stannis? she thought, for just a moment … but no, these were not his features. A wooden face, corpse white. Was this the enemy? A thousand red eyes floated in the rising flames. He sees me. Beside him, a boy with a wolf’s face threw back his head and howled.”
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But Mel didn't see Bran as the hero of the Great Other. She saw a vision of Bloodraven with Bran, and simply assumed BR was the 'enemy'.

ADwD, Melosandre:

“A face took shape within the hearth. Stannis? she thought, for just a moment … but no, these were not his features. A wooden face, corpse white. Was this the enemy? A thousand red eyes floated in the rising flames. He sees me. Beside him, a boy with a wolf’s face threw back his head and howled.”

 

And who is in Bloodraven's cause ??? It's impossiple that the chracter who will lead the fire army (Dany for me.) to be introduced from the first book and it's equivalent is introduced in the second half of the fifth book.BTW  Bran could be transformed to an Other ( Craster's sons.)

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There is many people that say that Bran will help defeating the Others. I don't see how Bran could help fighting the Others. (Who is clearly on the ice side besides Mel saw him in her visions as the hero of the Great Others.) However i think that Bran will be with the Others in the final huge battle and will die but i think that in the battle he will be not just a warg but a fighter warg he will be fighting with an icy sword and warging too. That's what i think. So what do you guys think ? 

 

The key to understanding Bran's role in the final battle with the Others lies in the symbolism of his name, which is Welsh for "Raven", is also the name of a mythical Welsh king Bran the Blessed, who defeated an army of undead with the help of his half-brother, and the raven's connection to the wolf.

 

His story goes something like this: An Irish asks Bran for his sister’s hand in marriage as part of an alliance. However, Bran’s half-brother is angry that he was not consulted, and mutilates the Irishman’s horses during the wedding celebrations. To prevent war, Bran offers the Irish King a magical cauldron that brings back the dead. The gift is accepted, the wedding goes ahead, and all seems well.

 

The marriage goes sour however, and Bran’s sister is abused by her husband. War breaks out at what was supposed to be a peacemaking feast, and the Irish use the cauldron to keep reviving their dead warriors.

 

Bran’s half-brother, Efnisien, after one of the battles, hides among the corpses in order to be thrown into the Cauldron and destroy it, sacrificing himself.

 

The king himself is mortally wounded but survives and asks that his detached head be brought back to his kingdom. For a time, he and his party are adrift, at one point spending eighty years on a island but unable to notice the passing of time. He continues to speak, and vows that as long as his remains are left in his castle, the realm will be safe from invasion.

 

Many of the parallels are obvious: the undead warriors, the two half-brothers joining forces to defeat them, the royal blood they share, and the name.

 

GRRM, however, has gone above and beyond gimmicky similarities to connect Bran the Blessed and Bran Stark. He has stated that the names in ASOIAF were chosen with a “fair amount of thought”, and so there’s a web of symbolism connecting them.

 

Their name in Welsh means “Raven/black bird,” and in Celtic mythologies the raven in a magical bird, the chosen form of war goddesses and heroes alike.

 

Bran Stark is one of a select few who can skinchange ravens. We have only seen greenseers do it, and Bloodraven tells his student that sending messages by raven was originally done by skinchanging:

 

It was the Singers who taught the First Men to send messages by raven… but in those days, the birds would speak the words. The trees remember, but men forget, and so now they write the messages on parchment and tie them round the feet of birds who have never shared their skin.”-(Bran, ADWD)

 

The raven is also known as “the wolf’s bird”, because in the wild the two species share a symbiotic relationship. The bird leads them to food by circling above prey that is wounded or sick, and in return the pack will leave bits behind for the murder to scavenge. Ravens will sometimes play with wolf pups.

 

The fact that the sigil of House Stark is a wolf, that his older sister is connected to a massive wolf pack, and that in absence of fire the best way to stop wights is to eat them, means that one of Bran will be playing a similar role to Celtic shapeshifters of legend in the War for the Dawn: appearing as a raven to sew chaos on the battlefield and aid the side he favors.

 

In the absence of fire to burn them, or wood for flaming arrows, wights are best combated by having something eat them. Bran/Summer notably were willing and able to take down an wighted snow bear and eat it. I would hypothesize this: Nymeria and her pack are apparently being set up wight-eating army, roving the land in search of the undead. They can survive the cold wilderness when humans can't. It is very likely they are going North:

 

The smell of blood was heavy in her nostrils… or was that her nightmare, lingering? She had dreamed of wolves again, of running through some dark pine forest with a great pack at her hells, hard on the scent of prey.

 

Forests in the Riverlands are because of their climate generally broadleaf. Also, the it’s highly unlikely that any weirwoods that would grow in the southern wild would have faces. Why go North where there is even less animal game such as deer and hares? Simple: for the wights, and to meet Bran and Arya there.

 

Bran has already often skinchanged ravens and watched over Summer hunting with his pack:

 

"[Summer] went outside to join his pack and hunt. Bran did not oft range with them in those days, but some nights he watched them from above.
Flying was even better than climbing."-
Bran, ADWD

 

The raven has a monarchical connection that continues to this day. In honor of the Blessed’s promise, ravens are kept in the tower of London. “There must always be a raven in the tower”=“There must always be a Stark in Winterfell”, with the founder of House Stark also having the name “Bran” and being a greenseer himself. It is from a tower that Bran falls and as a result is maimed as the Blessed was.

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The key to understanding Bran's role in the final battle with the Others lies in the symbolism of his name, which is Welsh for "Raven", is also the name of a mythical Welsh king Bran the Blessed, who defeated an army of undead with the help of his half-brother, and the raven's connection to the wolf.

 

His story goes something like this: An Irish asks Bran for his sister’s hand in marriage as part of an alliance. However, Bran’s half-brother is angry that he was not consulted, and mutilates the Irishman’s horses during the wedding celebrations. To prevent war, the Welsh king offers the Irish King a magical cauldron that brings the dead. The gift is accepted, the wedding goes ahead, and all seems well.

 

The marriage goes sour however, and Bran’s sister is abused by her husband. War breaks out. The Irish use the cauldron to keep reviving their dead warriors.

 

Bran’s half-brother, Efnisien, after one of the battles, hides among the corpses in order to be thrown into the Cauldron and destroy it, sacrificing himself.

 

The king himself is mortally wounded but survives and asks that his detached head be brought back to his kingdom. For a time, he and his party are adrift, at one point spending eighty years on a island but unable to notice the passing of time. He continues to speak, and vows that as long as his remains are left in his castle, the realm will be safe from invasion.

 

Many of the parallels are obvious: the undead warriors, the two half-brothers joining forces to defeat them, the royal blood they share, and the name.

 

GRRM, however, has gone above and beyond gimmicky similarities to connect Bran the Blessed and Bran Stark. He has stated that the names in ASOIAF were chosen with a “fair amount of thought”, and so there’s a web of symbolism connecting them.

 

Their name in Welsh means “Raven/black bird,” and in Celtic mythologies the raven in a magical bird, the chosen form of war goddesses and heroes alike.

 

Bran Stark is one of a select few who can skinchange ravens. We have only seen greenseers do it, and Bloodraven tells his student that sending messages by raven was originally done by skinchanging:

 

It was the Singers who taught the First Men to send messages by raven… but in those days, the birds would speak the words. The trees remember, but men forget, and so now they write the messages on parchment and tie them round the feet of birds who have never shared their skin.”-(Bran, ADWD)

 

The raven is also known as “the wolf’s bird”, because in the wild the two species share a symbiotic relationship. The bird leads them to food by circling above prey that is wounded or sick, and in return the pack will leave bits behind for the murder to scavenge. Ravens will sometimes play with wolf pups.

 

The fact that the sigil of House Stark is a wolf, that his older sister is connected to a massive wolf pack, and that in absence of fire the best way to stop wights is to eat them, means that one of Bran will be playing a similar role to Celtic shapeshifters of legend in the War for the Dawn: appearing as a raven to sew chaos on the battlefield and aid the side he favors.

 

In the absence of fire to burn them, or wood for flaming arrows, wights are best combated by having something eat them. Bran/Summer notably were willing and able to take down an wighted snow bear and eat it. I would hypothesize this: Nymeria and her pack are apparently being set up wight-eating army, roving the land in search of the undead. They can survive the cold wilderness when humans can't. It is very likely they are going North:

 

The smell of blood was heavy in her nostrils… or was that her nightmare, lingering? She had dreamed of wolves again, of running through some dark pine forest with a great pack at her hells, hard on the scent of prey.

 

Forests in the Riverlands are because of their climate generally broadleaf. Also, the it’s highly unlikely that any weirwoods that would grow in the southern wild would have faces. Why go North where there is even less animal game such as deer and hares? Simple: for the wights, and to meet Bran and Arya there.

 

Bran has already often skinchanged ravens and watched over Summer hunting with his pack:

 

"[Summer] went outside to join his pack and hunt. Bran did not oft range with them in those days, but some nights he watched them from above.
Flying was even better than climbing."-
Bran, ADWD

 

The raven has a monarchical connection that continues to this day. In honor of the Blessed’s promise, ravens are kept in the tower of London. “There must always be a raven in the tower”=“There must always be a Stark in Winterfell”, with the founder of House Stark also having the name “Bran” and being a greenseer himself. It is from a tower that Bran falls and as a result is maimed as the Blessed was.

 

So you are saying that all the people will side with each other and there will be no POV with the Others ? Poor Others they are doomed.

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Yes she gets visions wrong but she knows the people she sees in her visions.


No, not always. She recognises those she knows, Stannis and Jon, for instance. With Bloodraven, she sees a 'wooden face, corpse white', and immediately assumes it's 'the enemy'. She can be so thick at times that, despite having seen Jon as 'a man, now a wolf, now a man again', she doesn't connect the dots with the 'boy with a wolf's face'.
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No, not always. She recognises those she knows, Stannis and Jon, for instance. With Bloodraven, she sees a 'wooden face, corpse white', and immediately assumes it's 'the enemy'. She can be so thick at times that, despite having seen Jon as 'a man, now a wolf, now a man again', she doesn't connect the dots with the 'boy with a wolf's face'.

 

She dosen't recognize Bran.She has never met hem but this is Bran's features so we does recognize him.

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There's really nothing to suggest that Bran(Or anyone) will join the Others.  With Bran's Greenseering ability he can look thousands of years into the past and learn information.  Like Maester Aemon said to Jon "Knowledge is a weapon".  It is possible that Bran could look back to the Age of Heroes and the first Long Night and learn how the Others were originally defeated.  Once Bran develops his abilities, he will essentially become a never ending UAV

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Mel usually misunderstand what she sees also Maybe enemy she thinks will greatest ally of chosen one( Jon ) stark team!!! or GRMM made a twist one a while she understand the true Bran join other there lots of theories about it like Bloodraven is evil or children is working with others ..... but I dont think second option is possible again we needs wind of winter ASAP:

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The key to understanding Bran's role in the final battle with the Others lies in the symbolism of his name, which is Welsh for "Raven", is also the name of a mythical Welsh king Bran the Blessed, who defeated an army of undead with the help of his half-brother, and the raven's connection to the wolf.

 

His story goes something like this: An Irish asks Bran for his sister’s hand in marriage as part of an alliance. However, Bran’s half-brother is angry that he was not consulted, and mutilates the Irishman’s horses during the wedding celebrations. To prevent war, Bran offers the Irish King a magical cauldron that brings back the dead. The gift is accepted, the wedding goes ahead, and all seems well.

 

The marriage goes sour however, and Bran’s sister is abused by her husband. War breaks out at what was supposed to be a peacemaking feast, and the Irish use the cauldron to keep reviving their dead warriors.

 

Bran’s half-brother, Efnisien, after one of the battles, hides among the corpses in order to be thrown into the Cauldron and destroy it, sacrificing himself.

 

The king himself is mortally wounded but survives and asks that his detached head be brought back to his kingdom. For a time, he and his party are adrift, at one point spending eighty years on a island but unable to notice the passing of time. He continues to speak, and vows that as long as his remains are left in his castle, the realm will be safe from invasion.

 

Many of the parallels are obvious: the undead warriors, the two half-brothers joining forces to defeat them, the royal blood they share, and the name.

 

GRRM, however, has gone above and beyond gimmicky similarities to connect Bran the Blessed and Bran Stark. He has stated that the names in ASOIAF were chosen with a “fair amount of thought”, and so there’s a web of symbolism connecting them.

 

Their name in Welsh means “Raven/black bird,” and in Celtic mythologies the raven in a magical bird, the chosen form of war goddesses and heroes alike.

 

Bran Stark is one of a select few who can skinchange ravens. We have only seen greenseers do it, and Bloodraven tells his student that sending messages by raven was originally done by skinchanging:

 

It was the Singers who taught the First Men to send messages by raven… but in those days, the birds would speak the words. The trees remember, but men forget, and so now they write the messages on parchment and tie them round the feet of birds who have never shared their skin.”-(Bran, ADWD)

 

The raven is also known as “the wolf’s bird”, because in the wild the two species share a symbiotic relationship. The bird leads them to food by circling above prey that is wounded or sick, and in return the pack will leave bits behind for the murder to scavenge. Ravens will sometimes play with wolf pups.

 

The fact that the sigil of House Stark is a wolf, that his older sister is connected to a massive wolf pack, and that in absence of fire the best way to stop wights is to eat them, means that one of Bran will be playing a similar role to Celtic shapeshifters of legend in the War for the Dawn: appearing as a raven to sew chaos on the battlefield and aid the side he favors.

 

In the absence of fire to burn them, or wood for flaming arrows, wights are best combated by having something eat them. Bran/Summer notably were willing and able to take down an wighted snow bear and eat it. I would hypothesize this: Nymeria and her pack are apparently being set up wight-eating army, roving the land in search of the undead. They can survive the cold wilderness when humans can't. It is very likely they are going North:

 

The smell of blood was heavy in her nostrils… or was that her nightmare, lingering? She had dreamed of wolves again, of running through some dark pine forest with a great pack at her hells, hard on the scent of prey.

 

Forests in the Riverlands are because of their climate generally broadleaf. Also, the it’s highly unlikely that any weirwoods that would grow in the southern wild would have faces. Why go North where there is even less animal game such as deer and hares? Simple: for the wights, and to meet Bran and Arya there.

 

Bran has already often skinchanged ravens and watched over Summer hunting with his pack:

 

"[Summer] went outside to join his pack and hunt. Bran did not oft range with them in those days, but some nights he watched them from above.
Flying was even better than climbing."-
Bran, ADWD

 

The raven has a monarchical connection that continues to this day. In honor of the Blessed’s promise, ravens are kept in the tower of London. “There must always be a raven in the tower”=“There must always be a Stark in Winterfell”, with the founder of House Stark also having the name “Bran” and being a greenseer himself. It is from a tower that Bran falls and as a result is maimed as the Blessed was.

 

Hmm, thanks for writing this out. This is interesting. 

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I really believe that Bran will skinchange into a dragon. He will play a very important part and I don't think that he can achieve that just by looking into the past. It is possible that there will be a peace in the end, but before there will definitely a battle with the Others... and Bran just has to play a part in that.

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