moseisley Posted December 3, 2015 Share Posted December 3, 2015 What do you think? I know he was beheaded and resurrecting him would be impossible, but let's pretend it was possible, this speculation is just for fun.I am in no way implying that I believe Eddard Stark was resurrected. So would he have been dumb again? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beorn Snow Posted December 3, 2015 Share Posted December 3, 2015 Those who are resurrected return back changed. I´m not fully sure that Beric Dondarrion truly is Beric, maybe just something that thinks he is. (Which essentially is the same of course).Ned would lose a lot of the things that make him Ned. Lady Stoneheart f.x. is not Catelyn. Not the POV character some loved and some hated. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Good Guy Garlan Posted December 3, 2015 Share Posted December 3, 2015 I don't think he would've been very level-headed Now that's out of the way, I think the Resurrected by R'hllor™ (totally using that as a name for a brutal death metal band) get obsessed with their last thoughts: Beric wanted to finish his mission and catch the Mountain, Stoneheart wants revenge, Melisandre (who I think is also Undead) has a ladyboner for R'hllor, etc. So maybe UnNed gets obsessed with getting Arya and Sansa to safety or killing Joffrey or putting Stannis on the throne. Or with those pigeons he saw in the show before dying, who knows Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Pelambres Posted December 3, 2015 Share Posted December 3, 2015 I believe he did know he was playing with fire, far from home and sorrounded by enemies, yet couldn't bear the thought of having innocent children slaughtered. This at least wouldn't change.For the dumb side of the question, that depends on how dumb he was to start with. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kaibaman Posted December 3, 2015 Share Posted December 3, 2015 Yeah resurrection in the books does seem to rob people of their humanity. Just look at how Cat came back wrong, I wouldn't be surprised if our honorable Ned came back the way his wife did and replaced his sense of honor and justice with a single minded goal of taking revenge on all those who had wronged him and his family. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beorn Snow Posted December 3, 2015 Share Posted December 3, 2015 I also object to this Ned-was so dumb nonsense. Ned was honorable. Stupidly-honorable some would say, but being honorable in westerosi society is almost religious in nature. Yes, Ned is not a knight or a believer in the seven, but he was raised by followers of the seven in the Vale. It´s like being raised by people of muslim or jewish faith and then not eating pork. Sure, you can call it "stupid" but stupidity doesn´t really enter into it.A lot of Ned´s opponents aren´t really that bright but got incredibly lucky. (Cersei). Ned is always aware of the risks, he just takes them anyway. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Lannister Posted December 3, 2015 Share Posted December 3, 2015 Lord Stoneheart anyone? Except I guess he'd have to be carrying his head around. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NorthWestern Posted December 3, 2015 Share Posted December 3, 2015 In Dungeons & Dragons alignment system there is "lawful good" and when ones takes it to the extreme it turns into "lawful stupid". He refused all options, which had good chances to work and got himself killed due to his rigid sense of honor. That's not how smart people act. And if a Jew or Muslims prefers to die of starvation over eating pork, then s/he is an idiot.Ned could keep his mouth shut and never tell anyone, that Cersei's kids are not Roberts. (IMO the best option, that's what I'd have done).He could immediately go to Robert without warning Cersei.He could tell Robert before he died.He could accept Littefinger's offer and let Joffrey become king with the option to put Renly on the Iron Throne, if Joffrey was bad.He could accept Renly's offer and seize Cersei's children in the night.Ned's hollier-than-thou attitude got him and his family killed. And what did he think, would happen, if Robert knew the truth, even if Cersei's and her kids escaped to Essos? And what did he think, would happen, if Stannis claims the Iron Throne? Ned knew very well, that he was causing a bloody civil war and likely also killing Cersei and her kids, but he wanted to "wash his hands in innocence" in the name of honor. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maxxine Posted December 3, 2015 Share Posted December 3, 2015 I also object to this Ned-was so dumb nonsense. Ned was honorable. Stupidly-honorable some would say, but being honorable in westerosi society is almost religious in nature. Yes, Ned is not a knight or a believer in the seven, but he was raised by followers of the seven in the Vale. It´s like being raised by people of muslim or jewish faith and then not eating pork. Sure, you can call it "stupid" but stupidity doesn´t really enter into it.A lot of Ned´s opponents aren´t really that bright but got incredibly lucky. (Cersei). Ned is always aware of the risks, he just takes them anyway.I don't think pork analogy really works, but I get your point. I think incredibly naive would be better (or at least a fairer) assessment. He thought every one would be honorable and play by those rules and that's what got him killed.But I think it all depends timing to determine how Ned would come back. Yeah they say Beric came back changed, but he was no where near being like unCat. It just seemed as if his personality was a bit different. It's hard to know because we don't have a insight into his character before Arya meets him so we don't know how drastic the change was, but I think it's fair to say he doesn't come back like Cat. And I think that has to do with how much time had passed since her death, At least Thoros mentions that he wouldn't bring her back because she had been dead too long. Another difference may be the state Cat was in when she died. She was just in the deepest pit of depression. She has lost Ned, she thinks all of her children except Robb & Sansa are dead, then she watches Robb die. Maybe that why she came back as Lady Stoneheart instead of how Beric came back just a little changed.So I think Ned would come back more in the Beric, assuming they were able resurrect him immediately. Changed so he's not as naive, but not so much as a crazy zombie way like Cat. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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