TimJames Posted December 16, 2015 Share Posted December 16, 2015 Imagine that Balerion gets shot down (like Rhaenys was at Hellholt) and King Maegor is captured by The Faith Militant.With The Targaryens overthrown, who rules The Seven Kingdoms? Does it become a theocracy? Is a great counsel called to choose a new king? Do The Seven Kingdoms revert back to independent realms? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lion of the West Posted December 16, 2015 Share Posted December 16, 2015 I'll assume that it will be decided what the Great Houses do then. Either they can start to fight over the Iron Throne in the War of Five Kings style, the High Septon can become the leader of a kind of union of the Seven Kingdoms or possibly they split and Westeros goes back to the good old days of near constant warfare. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jon Fossoway Posted December 16, 2015 Share Posted December 16, 2015 The Faith Militant is a religious movement without any political backbone. The Great Houses would have crushed them eventually. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HexMachina Posted December 16, 2015 Share Posted December 16, 2015 Visenya mounts Vhagar and demands her son be released Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TimJames Posted December 16, 2015 Author Share Posted December 16, 2015 Visenya mounts Vhagar and demands her son be released"I am The High Septon. Leave this continent and never return, or your son dies." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Wraith Posted December 16, 2015 Share Posted December 16, 2015 If the Faith had been strong enough to form some kind of Theocracy it probably would have done it before the Targs arrived. They were still able to challenge the Targs when they still had dragons so not a push over. Since the High Septon had crowned Aegon they probably would have crowned someone else but held a council. We really don't have enough info to work with. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheSovereignGrave Posted December 16, 2015 Share Posted December 16, 2015 "I am The High Septon. Leave this continent and never return, or your son dies."Cue Oldtown burning to the ground. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Wraith Posted December 16, 2015 Share Posted December 16, 2015 Cue Oldtown burning to the ground.Just like the previous High Septon foresaw, how about that? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Muggle Posted December 16, 2015 Share Posted December 16, 2015 These what if threads are nothing more then speculation, fan fiction even. I wish the mods would close them all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Ravenstark Posted December 16, 2015 Share Posted December 16, 2015 These what if threads are nothing more then speculation, fan fiction even. I wish the mods would close them all.Uh. I think you are in the wrong place, chap. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Varys Posted December 16, 2015 Share Posted December 16, 2015 'The Sons of the Dragons' states that an emissary of the Iron Bank to Oldtown wrote his superiors that the true ruler of Westeros after Aenys' retreat to Dragonstone was the High Septon.This is a pretty big hint what would have happened had the Faith Militant won. The Targaryens had united Westeros, and the Faith was the most powerful entity in the entire Realm, commanding both its own armies as well as the hearts and minds of many lords. The High Septon would have used the unification that Targaryens had brought and the symbols of unified monarchic power they created (most notably the Iron Throne) to their advantage and would have set themselves up as the new rulers of the Realm as representatives of the Seven.Perhaps they would have lost the North, but no lord in Westeros would have dared to outright defy or march against the Faith. The Targaryens could do this because they had dragons, but nobody else had dragons at this point.A union of great lords against the Faith is also very unlikely considering that this shortly after the Conquest the great houses would have had still little love for their neighbors, not to mention that all still had their different laws and customs. More importantly, up-jumped houses like the Tyrells, the Tullys, and the Baratheons most likely would have been treated as equals by proud and and ancient lines like the Starks, Lannisters, and Arryns. The Lannisters could forge an alliances with the Gardeners, but if a Tyrell lord had approached them with a similar offer they most likely would have laughed him out of Casterly Rock at this point in their history.Speaking about that:One notes that not only Oldtown/the High Septon but also the Faith Militant kept itself out of the wars of the Conquest. Perhaps the relative smallness of the united army of the Reach and the Westerlands on the Field of Fire is partially explained by the fact that all the Faith Militant chapters in both kingdoms refused to participate in the war and the Faith as a whole prevented that any smallfolk living on lands owned by the Faith would participate in any of those wars.In such a scenario we would speak about many levies the Gardeners and Lannister were unable to bring to the Field of Fire. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lady Topspin Posted December 16, 2015 Share Posted December 16, 2015 Imagine that Balerion gets shot down (like Rhaenys was at Hellholt) and King Maegor is captured by The Faith Militant.With The Targaryens overthrown, who rules The Seven Kingdoms? Does it become a theocracy? Is a great counsel called to choose a new king? Do The Seven Kingdoms revert back to independent realms?The seven kingdoms would be back to the pigsty it was before Aegon came along and built an organized kingdom. In other words, the kingdom would break apart and go native once again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beautiful Balon Posted December 16, 2015 Share Posted December 16, 2015 These what if threads are nothing more then speculation, fan fiction even. I wish the mods would close them all.If they're fan-fiction then report them to the mods. complaining about how they're fanfiction just moves them to the top of the board and is not relevant discussion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Muggle Posted December 17, 2015 Share Posted December 17, 2015 What if The Faith Militant Uprising was Successful?? This would be a different book. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kaibaman Posted December 17, 2015 Share Posted December 17, 2015 I don't think the Faith would try to overthrow the Targaryens. If they had Maegor as a hostage it would be to their advantage to keep him alive and keep the Targaryens in power as are now in a position to make demands from their king, which would no doubt affect the whole of Westeros. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dorian Martell Posted December 17, 2015 Share Posted December 17, 2015 Imagine that Balerion gets shot down (like Rhaenys was at Hellholt) and King Maegor is captured by The Faith Militant.With The Targaryens overthrown, who rules The Seven Kingdoms? Does it become a theocracy? Is a great counsel called to choose a new king? Do The Seven Kingdoms revert back to independent realms?there would be a theocracy for a time, a few months to a year for the allies to mount the inevitable targ restoration so the story can continue as written. It would be no more than a blip Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beautiful Balon Posted December 17, 2015 Share Posted December 17, 2015 If the dragons aren't killed then you have a bunch of dragons running around causing problems Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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