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#241 User is offline   Ouroboros 

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Posted 21 June 2008 - 10:17 AM

View PostWerthead, on Jun 2 2008, 21.09, said:

Except that more named female characters in WoT have been raped than in ASoIaF.

There is also a strong argument that Jordan presents his female characters as being, fairly frequently, morons, which is hardly being kind towards them. I disagree with this: I think that virtually all of Jordan's characters behave like morons at fairly regular intervals :P


I've read every Jordan book ever written, a couple times over, and I don't remember anyone getting raped anywhere in any of them. Please validate this statement.

Female characters, and I'm sure a few males, have been raped in ASOIAF.

#242 User is offline   Eloisa 

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Posted 27 June 2008 - 07:44 PM

View PostOuroboros, on Jun 21 2008, 16.17, said:

Female characters, and I'm sure a few males, have been raped in ASOIAF.

AFAIK there is only one mention of male rape in ASOIAF - Danny Flint's rape and murder as part of the Rat Cook incident. (I know this not because I am detail-obsessed, although I am, but because I once made the rash statement that no men were ever raped in ASOIAF, and was proved wrong.)

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Posted 07 July 2008 - 07:12 PM

View PostOuroboros, on Jun 21 2008, 10.17, said:

I've read every Jordan book ever written, a couple times over, and I don't remember anyone getting raped anywhere in any of them. Please validate this statement.

Well, for one, there was the Mesaana/Shaidar Haran scene. Other than that, I dunno. It's been a very long time since I read the series.

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Posted 08 July 2008 - 07:36 PM

View PostOuroboros, on Jun 21 2008, 16.17, said:

I've read every Jordan book ever written, a couple times over, and I don't remember anyone getting raped anywhere in any of them. Please validate this statement.

Female characters, and I'm sure a few males, have been raped in ASOIAF.


Moghedien is raped by Shaidar Haran in A Crown of Swords, whilst Mesaana suffers the same fate in Crossroads of Twilight. There are insinuations that there has also been abuse at the hands of Myrddraal in the butchered village in The Great Hunt as well as elsewhere. Wasn't there something about women going crazy after being left in the hands of the Myddraal? Jordan was a bit more circumspect, but his implication is clear.

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Posted 31 July 2008 - 12:23 AM

In no particular order:

Bradbury
Martin
Tolkien
Kay
Wolfe

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