[Pre-ADwD Spoilers] "New" POV 1 - Spoilers for ADwD
Posted 20 April 2008 - 03:39 PM
Do they talk or do anything during the chapter?
Posted 20 April 2008 - 03:44 PM
No real descriptions of the Dreadfort. Theon doesn't really have his wits about him to notice things. There are descriptions of Ramsay though, if you're interested. He wears all black except for a pink doublet and he's "still ugly" no matter how fine he dresses.
ETA: Just names for the lords. Theon doesn't recognize them, that's why the descriptions are there. I wasn't sure who they were. Someone on LJ said one was Whoresbane Umber but we haven't figured out the other.
Edited by Bran's Muffin, 20 April 2008 - 03:47 PM.
Posted 20 April 2008 - 03:56 PM
Posted 20 April 2008 - 06:03 PM
- Although we don't know the exact fingers, it does state that he's only lost the pinky of his right hand, meaning he could still shoot a bow. He's lost two fingers from his left hand, and as we know he's lost a ring finger I assume its the ring finger and pinky.
- The excerpt didn't say fingers fell off; it said that the pain after flaying was so bad that the prisoners would beg to lose their fingers. It's described as a game.
- Theon tried to bite of his own ring finger, not pinky.
- It does say that Theon has lost 4 toes (3 from one foot, but only the small one from the other)
ETA: Poor Theon :(
Edited by Turinqui Calima, 20 April 2008 - 06:03 PM.
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Posted 21 April 2008 - 11:13 AM
Not at all. Highborn girls have regular contact with any number of servants, from maesters to men-at-arms to stableboys to maids and on and on. And even if Theon did have some credibility boost from the regular contact, there's still the issue (that everybody's eliding, apparently) that nobody can trust him. The north in particular would hate him, but I'm not sure why Stannis would be more credulous (given that he's generally sour and suspicious by nature).
Posted 21 April 2008 - 12:07 PM
Posted 21 April 2008 - 12:15 PM
Theon is well-known and infamous in the north for being a betrayer and a turncloak whose oaths count for nothing. I wouldn't use John Walker Lindh as a reference at a job interview, and I wouldn't use Theon to give my realm legitimacy. I'm genuinely surprised that people can't see the problem here.
Posted 21 April 2008 - 12:20 PM
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