Posted 14 September 2008 - 07:48 PM
Posted 14 September 2008 - 07:54 PM
Bought Civ 4 on the week of release. Have played it a fair bit, but it didn't work as well as the originals for me. It seemed to lack that 'just one more go' feeling the earlier games did.
OTOH, it came like third on the Best PC Game Ever poll we did last year and some people on here play it more than any other game, so who knows? Give it a crack, especially for that price if it's got the two expansions included.
Posted 14 September 2008 - 08:02 PM
Probably. Not me at the moment. Too distracting.
Very. It's quite different, especially with all the available mods.
It's not for a system that's barely chugging along. It's not a graphics hog, but it's a fairly hefty program. Especially if you install some of the fancier mods.
IIRC the game of the year edition has one of the expansion packs(Warlords), but there's another one (Beyond the Sword) as well the forthcoming Colonization (which will not require Civ IV to run).
Posted 14 September 2008 - 08:40 PM
Posted 14 September 2008 - 09:48 PM
I love the game. YMMV.
Posted 14 September 2008 - 11:00 PM
Then again, it's the first Civ I've played since I played Civ on my SNES when I was quite young and later on an emulator on my computer, so I don't know how it stands up to Civ 3. I have the Game of the Year edition, it has entertained me for endless hours. I want the Beyond the Sword expansion pack, but I'm not gonna spring for it until I get bored with my current version, and that hasn't happened yet!
Posted 14 September 2008 - 11:49 PM
Up until just recently, I was playing with the Fall From Heaven mod, which is amazing. Well, amazing once you get over the fact that it's still very much in development. Even so, I think it kept me occupied and having fun for as long as vanilla Civ4 did. The pronounced differences among the various factions are, IMO, its biggest strength. You can find it here.
Posted 15 September 2008 - 02:03 AM
Played Fall from Heaven a bit, but I'm a staunch Total Realism loyalist. Awesome improvements to the combat systems with military doctrines and new promotions. Love the more extensive, more powerful and better balanced civics. The immense variety of nation-specific units are interesting, the national units are awesome, differences in religions, buildings, everything.
Only problem is they still don't have a Beyond the Sword version yet. Which is why I keep the Warlords disc in the CD dish instead of BtS. I'll switch when they switch. :)
Posted 15 September 2008 - 06:19 AM
It took me longer to get into, but now it's taking up a lot of what little spare time I have. Religion is a real improvement - I don't think I ever built a temple in Civ before now. :P
Posted 15 September 2008 - 07:17 AM
Definitely get Civ4 and I would highly recommend Beyond the Sword, if not right away, then eventually.
Some New Civ4 Concepts over Civ3:
Religions - can be very powerful. Being the first to found certain techs mean you are the founder of a religion associated with it (Judiasm comes with Monotheism, for instance). State religions can be a way to spread your nations influence, gain intelligence on foreign lands and generate considerable wealth. They also help the happiness of your people.
Great People - sometimes great people are born who can greatly influence the advancement and history of your civ. Great Artists can create "Great Works," which are often called a "culture bomb" in the game - greatly expanding the cultural influence of a city. Great scientists, prophets, engineers and merchants also all have their own abilities and special things they can do. Warlords adds the "Warlord" great person unit, who attaches to armies and adds a lot of bonuses and Beyond the Sword adds the "Great Spy" great person, who is useful in the expanded espionage rules in that expansion.
Beyond the Sword adds:
Corporations - which function similar to Religions but for later in the game. I've heard they can be difficult to use and if run improperly can drain resources and money rather than help add to something. Again, this is still new to me too.
Random events and missions - right now I'm trying to find the Holy Mountain of my state religion, which will give me some kind of big bonus if I do it before the Industrial Age. Random events are fairly common and give you choices as to how you want to respond - like a mine colllapses and you can either spend money to restore it, or let it go, maybe a disease outbreak happens and you have 3 choices as to how to combat it, etc.
Anyway, I"m a big fan of the BtS mod so far, and have only heard good things about it. The main game is of course great, so yeah, I highly recommend it.
Posted 15 September 2008 - 07:59 AM
Basically, corporations consume resources to provide things. (Eg. Sid's Sushi provides culture and food, for every rice, fish, crab or clam you have) so you can use them to boost your own economy in certain areas (production, or whatever)
They cost money to operate though, however, if you own a corporate headquarters and have enemy cities "infected" they'll provide you with a portion of the maintainance cost, so you can get a ton of money that way.
Posted 15 September 2008 - 10:21 AM
Posted 15 September 2008 - 11:07 AM
One minor note - the Great Wall is incredibly useful and relatively cheap - build it.
Posted 15 September 2008 - 11:19 AM
Colonization looks interesting, I'll almost certainly pick it up, but if it stays relatively faithful to the original version it will probably be too much micromanagement, to narrowly focused and not have enough historical sweep for continued replayability. But if get just 10 hours of entertainment out of a $25 purchase then that's a good investment, I suspect I'll still end up playing it for even longer than that.