The Alchemist Posted November 13, 2008 Share Posted November 13, 2008 We've seen direwolves, giants and dragons so far. What else do you think we may see? Ice Spiders? My pet crackpot thery is the egg Euron threw in the water will hatch a kraken...anyone care to support this thory? Or support that we WILL see krakens by the end of the story? I'd also like ot think that the trees in the isle of faces can move around Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elder Elemental Evil Posted November 13, 2008 Share Posted November 13, 2008 Dire Wolves aren't mythical. In fact, they co-existed with early humans. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harenhall's Ghost Posted November 13, 2008 Share Posted November 13, 2008 well direwolves haven't been seen south of the wall in hundreds of years. I think that qualifies them as somewhat mythical. do lions exist anywhere in westeros or in the world abroad? I don't recall anyone seeing any lions. Where would they be? not mythical animals of course, but i'm curious. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daena the Defiant Posted November 13, 2008 Share Posted November 13, 2008 [quote name='Harenhall's Ghost' post='1587949' date='Nov 13 2008, 15.05']well direwolves haven't been seen south of the wall in hundreds of years. I think that qualifies them as somewhat mythical. do lions exist anywhere in westeros or in the world abroad? I don't recall anyone seeing any lions. Where would they be? not mythical animals of course, but i'm curious.[/quote] Dany wears a lion's pelt that was taken from a lion that Drogo killed crossing the Dothraki Sea, which seems very much like the veldt or savannah. Lions are probably from the Eastern continent and Sothyros, too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Errant Bard Posted November 13, 2008 Share Posted November 13, 2008 [quote name='Harenhall's Ghost' post='1587949' date='Nov 13 2008, 21.05']well direwolves haven't been seen south of the wall in hundreds of years. I think that qualifies them as somewhat mythical.[/quote]Polar bears haven't been seen south of the Arctic Circle in thousand of years, are they mythical? Anyway, I think we won't see many special animals around, after all, at first GRRM didn't even put dragons in. We have reports of manticores, if I recall correctly, though, and we have things only mentioned in passing, like harpies or griffins, that could exist as much as they do in the real world. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harenhall's Ghost Posted November 13, 2008 Share Posted November 13, 2008 aha! thanks daena. couldn't figure out where the lannisters got their sigil. now i know. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bronn Stone Posted November 13, 2008 Share Posted November 13, 2008 [quote name='Harenhall's Ghost' post='1587986' date='Nov 13 2008, 12.17']aha! thanks daena. couldn't figure out where the lannisters got their sigil. now i know.[/quote] Actually, I asked GRRM at a reading when AFFC came out. Lions used to live inside Casterly Rock itself, long ago. They still can be found in the wild, but are rare and mostly hunted out of existence on Westeros. I didn't ask about the Dothraki sea though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harenhall's Ghost Posted November 13, 2008 Share Posted November 13, 2008 [quote name='Errant Bard' post='1587985' date='Nov 13 2008, 14.17']Polar bears haven't been seen south of the Arctic Circle in thousand of years, are they mythical?[/quote] ok good point, they were merely unexpected. [quote name='Bronn Stone' post='1587998' date='Nov 13 2008, 14.24']Actually, I asked GRRM at a reading when AFFC came out. Lions used to live inside Casterly Rock itself, long ago. They still can be found in the wild, but are rare and mostly hunted out of existence on Westeros. I didn't ask about the Dothraki sea though.[/quote] I can't wait till GRRM gives us a look inside of Casterly Rock. One of the few great houses left unvisited. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_BlauerDragon Posted November 13, 2008 Share Posted November 13, 2008 I seem to recall something about how there used to be actual lions that roamed around the grass lands near Casterly rock. If I am not mistaken, the Manticore is used in it's more traditional role as the name for a scorpion, and I am not sure what the giant birds in the vale might have been (but I have a feeling they too, might return soon)... the idea of the Kraken is interesting... Then, of course there is the Stone Dragon... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Other-in-law Posted November 13, 2008 Share Posted November 13, 2008 Lions have lived in the Westerlands in recent memory, if not in the present itself. House Clegane got it's sigil from three dogs who saved Lord Tytos Lannister from a lion (the first noble Clegane was Tytos' kennelmaster). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Child of the Forest Posted November 13, 2008 Share Posted November 13, 2008 [quote name='Errant Bard' post='1587985' date='Nov 13 2008, 16.17']We have reports of manticores, if I recall correctly, though, and we have things only mentioned in passing, like harpies or griffins, that could exist as much as they do in the real world.[/quote] Both manticores and scorpions (the animal and the weapon) are mentioned along the way. I'm not sure if they are meant as different creatures or just different terms. Also unicorns, or at least their horns, pop up. Someone has already mentioned krakens. -Child of the Forest Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The OTHER other Posted November 13, 2008 Share Posted November 13, 2008 [quote name='Child of the Forest' post='1588209' date='Nov 13 2008, 18.40']Both manticores and scorpions (the animal and the weapon) are mentioned along the way. I'm not sure if they are meant as different creatures or just different terms.[/quote] Manticores and scorpions are nothing alike. Scorpions in the book don't seem to be much different than those in our world, perhaps more venomous. Manticores have a stinging tail like a scorpion but MUCH more deadly, and a head with a face disturbingly like a man's. I am not sure the kraken is mythical in the books, it may be real but seldom seen, much like the giant squids in our world, which were thought to be mythical for many years until samples finally surfaced. With dragons back in the world again perhaps other manner of beasts like unicorns and wyverns will surface. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
redevil Posted November 14, 2008 Share Posted November 14, 2008 Varies says that a kraken has been seen north of the sisters or something like that. and he says specifically that its not a Greyjoy, but a real kraken. i think we will see more magical animal and mythical creatures when the others came. just a hunch... someone said ice spiders? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_BlauerDragon Posted November 14, 2008 Share Posted November 14, 2008 [quote name='redevil' post='1588374' date='Nov 13 2008, 17.52']Varys says that a kraken has been seen north of the sisters or something like that. and he says specifically that its not a Greyjoy, but a real kraken. i think we will see more magical animal and mythical creatures when the others came. just a hunch... someone said ice spiders?[/quote] And I say Giant birds (or possibly Gryphons) in the Vale... Possibly a lot more... I also would foresee at least one more Dragon (of some sort or another) not under Dany's control... & Here's a sick thought though... Do we have any events occuring at the wall (in what is written so far) that occur after Euron's man blows the horn? Suppose that he got it wrong, and his horn shatters the wall... (or rather, just did shatter it) and the one they have at the wall is the one that "wakes the sleepers" (the night's watchmen that have been sealed into the wall)... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vendetto Posted November 14, 2008 Share Posted November 14, 2008 I'm thinking that we'll see some type of ent like creatures. I also think that Dany will find the kraken egg when she crosses the sea. Anyone know if dragons can swim? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Other-in-law Posted November 14, 2008 Share Posted November 14, 2008 [quote name='the Blauer Dragon' post='1588427' date='Nov 13 2008, 21.10']& Here's a sick thought though... Do we have any events occuring at the wall (in what is written so far) that occur after Euron's man blows the horn? Suppose that he got it wrong, and his horn shatters the wall... (or rather, just did shatter it) and the one they have at the wall is the one that "wakes the sleepers" (the night's watchmen that have been sealed into the wall)...[/quote] No reason to confuse the Horn of Joramun with Euron's dragon horn. The former would have been of First Man origin and engraved with runes if it had any writing on it at all. The latter is clearly engraved with Valyrian glyphs, indicating a Valyrian origin, and thus nothing much to do with the Wall at all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Nobody Posted November 14, 2008 Share Posted November 14, 2008 "krakens" actually exist [url="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Colossal_Squid"]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Colossal_Squid[/url]. Dire wolves used to exist [url="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dire_wolf"]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dire_wolf[/url]. While unicorns are often perceived as horse like creatures, a lot of the original descriptions were of something more like a goat, one horned goats do exist, via a mutation that fuses the two horns together, yet allow them to remain in the center of the head, a few of these used to travel with the Ringling circus. Manticores (and of course dragons) are the only things that are for sure mythological that have showed up in the books so far. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DocBean Posted November 14, 2008 Share Posted November 14, 2008 [quote name='King Nobody' post='1588483' date='Nov 13 2008, 20.59']"krakens" actually exist [url="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Colossal_Squid"]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Colossal_Squid[/url]. Dire wolves used to exist [url="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dire_wolf"]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dire_wolf[/url]. While unicorns are often perceived as horse like creatures, a lot of the original descriptions were of something more like a goat, one horned goats do exist, via a mutation that fuses the two horns together, yet allow them to remain in the center of the head, a few of these used to travel with the Ringling circus. Manticores (and of course dragons) are the only things that are for sure mythological that have showed up in the books so far.[/quote] well Vikings used to flaunt Narwhal horns as Unicorn horns. so that helped keep the legend alive. I hope we see a Narwhal. also, aren't Snow Bears just polar bears? I got the feeling that snow bears were just really big white bears, which sounds like a polar bear to me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
redevil Posted November 14, 2008 Share Posted November 14, 2008 [quote name='King Nobody' post='1588483' date='Nov 14 2008, 04.59']"krakens" actually exist [url="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Colossal_Squid"]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Colossal_Squid[/url]. Dire wolves used to exist [url="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dire_wolf"]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dire_wolf[/url]. While unicorns are often perceived as horse like creatures, a lot of the original descriptions were of something more like a goat, one horned goats do exist, via a mutation that fuses the two horns together, yet allow them to remain in the center of the head, a few of these used to travel with the Ringling circus. Manticores (and of course dragons) are the only things that are for sure mythological that have showed up in the books so far.[/quote] i don't think that the dire wolfs in the series are the same species as dire wolf in north America. first of all the dire wolfs in the books are huge' and real dire wolfs are slightly bigger than a grey wolf. second is the fact that the real dire wolf had a small brain thus, being less intelligent. and as we know the dire wolfs in the books are far more intelligent than a regular animal Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Character Zero Posted November 14, 2008 Share Posted November 14, 2008 [quote name='redevil' post='1588992' date='Nov 14 2008, 10.37']second is the fact that the real dire wolf had a small brain thus, being less intelligent. and as we know the dire wolfs in the books are far more intelligent than a regular animal[/quote] brain size doesn't necessarily correspond to intelligence Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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