irriadin Posted July 7, 2009 Share Posted July 7, 2009 The Rai-Kairah trilogy by Carol Berg. Very much an adult series. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
henderson Posted July 7, 2009 Share Posted July 7, 2009 ONYX COURT novels by Marie Brennan, combination of fantasy and historical fiction. She has two novels: MIDNIGHT NEVER COMES (2008) and IN ASHES LIE (2009). No children. Takes place in London. Very good books. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kcf Posted July 7, 2009 Share Posted July 7, 2009 C. S. Friedman's Coldfire Trilogy. One of the main protagonists kills his children at the start of the book. Also, her new trilogy (only 2 books out so far) starting with Feast of Souls. Her new trilogy definately has a young character and coming of age story, so doesn't fit.I'll throw out some other recs that I haven't seen yet:Elizabeth Bear - New AmsterdamTobias Buckell - Crystall Rain and Ragamuffinmost things by Jonathan CarrollMark Chadbourn - World's End (Age of Misrule Trilogy)Several of Charles de Lint's booksDaryl Gregory - PandemoniumKate Griffin - A Madness of AngelsRobert Holdstock - Mythago WoodCharlie Huston - Already DeadJasper Kent - TwelveJohn Meaney - Bone SongMichael Moorcock - The Metatemporal DetectiveTim Powers - Anubis GatesAndrzej Sapkowski - Last WishJeff VanderMeer - City of Saints and MadmenEdit: and what I'm reading now: The Affinity Bridge by George MannAnd if you want a brilliant satire of what you seem to be struggling withThe Dragons of Babel by Michael Swanwick Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shryke Posted July 8, 2009 Share Posted July 8, 2009 The Dragons of Babel by Michael SwanwickThe Iron Dragon's Daughter would sort of count on that front too, wouldn't it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gigei Posted July 11, 2009 Author Share Posted July 11, 2009 Thanks for all the recs.Bakker - hmm maybe, tried reading it but gave up after 3 chapters, doesn't he start off as a young child anyway?Trial of Flowers by Jay Lake & Shriek: An Afterword by Jeff VanderMeer - I shall look into itHambly - yes I already mentioned her in my original postChina Miéville - been meaning to try itJoe Abercrombie - I will try itTim Powers - I am not sure but I think I read it alreadyAngela Carter - never heard/seen this!Elizabeth Bear's "Promethean Age" series - lovely title I will have to look into that and the other recsRaymond E. Feist - kidsLois McMaster Bujold, Guy Gavriel Kay, Kage Baker, Steven Brust, Donaldson, Erikson, Kim Harrison, Le Guin, Zelazny, Robin Hobb,Book of the New Sun, The Black Company, David Gemmell, C. S. Friedman, Mythago Wood, Stover's Caine - read it all!Mercy Thompson - nope, low quality and rape with "therapy sex" right afterwards? No.Sarah Monette - lmao. No, just no. I already read A Companion to Wolves and I am scarred forever by the "butthurt" scene. No thanks, never ever going to read anything by her. Sorry.The Rai-Kairah trilogy by Carol Berg - I'll see if I can get a sampleMark Chadbourn - on my list of to read booksMichael Swanwick - I love his work Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elrostar Posted July 11, 2009 Share Posted July 11, 2009 Play in an Amber roleplaying game? :) Even an online one? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord O' Bones Posted July 11, 2009 Share Posted July 11, 2009 Moorcock's Elric stuff.Technically, Dragonlance too. :P Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
murphy Posted July 11, 2009 Share Posted July 11, 2009 Thanks for all the recs.(snip)Elizabeth Bear's "Promethean Age" series - lovely title I will have to look into that and the other recs(snip)Sarah Monette - lmao. No, just no. I already read A Companion to Wolves and I am scarred forever by the "butthurt" scene. No thanks, never ever going to read anything by her. Sorry.(snip)This puzzles me. Elizabeth Bear cowrote A Companion to Wolves with Sarah Monette. However, Bear's Promethiean Age Novels are nothing like Monette's Melusine series. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shryke Posted July 11, 2009 Share Posted July 11, 2009 Thanks for all the recs.Bakker - hmm maybe, tried reading it but gave up after 3 chapters, doesn't he start off as a young child anyway?No. I believe the only time kids show up is in the occasional small flashback and one single chapter, at which point 1 of the 2 children is sold into slavery/pimped out.It's one of the least "kid growing up and learning lessons" fantasies around. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gabriele Posted July 11, 2009 Share Posted July 11, 2009 Sarah Monette - lmao. No, just no. I already read A Companion to Wolves and I am scarred forever by the "butthurt" scene. No thanks, never ever going to read anything by her. Sorry.Do I want to know?Probably yes. :D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Max the Mostly Mediocre Posted July 11, 2009 Share Posted July 11, 2009 Do I want to know?Probably yes. :DAnimal companions. When their bonded wolves go into heat, the big strapping men can't help but have themselves an orgy. No women necessary.This puzzles me. Elizabeth Bear cowrote A Companion to Wolves with Sarah Monette. However, Bear's Promethiean Age Novels are nothing like Monette's Melusine series.And neither of them are much like ACtW, IMO. Their individual efforts are much stronger than that collaboration. Hell, their Shadow Unit 'episodes' are better than that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
murphy Posted July 11, 2009 Share Posted July 11, 2009 Animal companions. When their bonded wolves go into heat, the big strapping men can't help but have themselves an orgy. No women necessary.And neither of them are much like ACtW, IMO. Their individual efforts are much stronger than that collaboration. Hell, their Shadow Unit 'episodes' are better than that.And both the Melusine books and Promethean books deal with homosexuality. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gigei Posted July 12, 2009 Author Share Posted July 12, 2009 This puzzles me. Elizabeth Bear cowrote A Companion to Wolves with Sarah Monette. However, Bear's Promethiean Age Novels are nothing like Monette's Melusine series.Oh? I forgot about Bear. Scratch that, too.Do I want to know?Probably yes. :DOw! My butt hurts soo bad! <--- lame gay gangbang sceneYeck. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ants Posted July 14, 2009 Share Posted July 14, 2009 Thanks for all the recs.Bakker - hmm maybe, tried reading it but gave up after 3 chapters, doesn't he start off as a young child anyway?Trial of Flowers by Jay Lake & Shriek: An Afterword by Jeff VanderMeer - I shall look into itHambly - yes I already mentioned her in my original postChina Miéville - been meaning to try itJoe Abercrombie - I will try itTim Powers - I am not sure but I think I read it alreadyAngela Carter - never heard/seen this!Elizabeth Bear's "Promethean Age" series - lovely title I will have to look into that and the other recsRaymond E. Feist - kidsLois McMaster Bujold, Guy Gavriel Kay, Kage Baker, Steven Brust, Donaldson, Erikson, Kim Harrison, Le Guin, Zelazny, Robin Hobb,Book of the New Sun, The Black Company, David Gemmell, C. S. Friedman, Mythago Wood, Stover's Caine - read it all!Mercy Thompson - nope, low quality and rape with "therapy sex" right afterwards? No.Sarah Monette - lmao. No, just no. I already read A Companion to Wolves and I am scarred forever by the "butthurt" scene. No thanks, never ever going to read anything by her. Sorry.The Rai-Kairah trilogy by Carol Berg - I'll see if I can get a sampleMark Chadbourn - on my list of to read booksMichael Swanwick - I love his workYou obviously haven't read the next book. The ending of the rape one implies things which turn out to be quite wrong (the sex, how well she's handling it all). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gabriele Posted July 14, 2009 Share Posted July 14, 2009 Ow! My butt hurts soo bad! <--- lame gay gangbang sceneYeck.'That sounds like something that would have made me laugh when reading it. :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VarysTheSpider Posted July 14, 2009 Share Posted July 14, 2009 China Mieville - been meaning to try itGet on it. I don't think you can go too wrong with Perdido Street Station and Iron Council. There's a real rawness to those books - unresolved moral dilemmas, unusual characters, a dose of political/economic theory and a masterful use of language. Iron Council is almost poetry, and I do not use that word lightly. The Scar's still a cracking read, but plays up the whole 'OMG he's such a badass' teenage angle a wee bit. And even though it's set in the same world as PSS and IC it goes off on a bit of a tangent so can be picked up after reading both. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gigei Posted July 15, 2009 Author Share Posted July 15, 2009 You obviously haven't read the next book. The ending of the rape one implies things which turn out to be quite wrong (the sex, how well she's handling it all).Why would I read the next book when the last one sucked? No, thanks. :thumbsdown: Her bf is a big asshole, too to expect her to sex him up immediately after the rape. I hope he dies.'That sounds like something that would have made me laugh when reading it. :)Nah, the whole book was really bad.Get on it. I don't think you can go too wrong with Perdido Street Station and Iron Council. There's a real rawness to those books - unresolved moral dilemmas, unusual characters, a dose of political/economic theory and a masterful use of language. Iron Council is almost poetry, and I do not use that word lightly. The Scar's still a cracking read, but plays up the whole 'OMG he's such a badass' teenage angle a wee bit. And even though it's set in the same world as PSS and IC it goes off on a bit of a tangent so can be picked up after reading both.Sounds good. :D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Serious Callers Only Posted July 15, 2009 Share Posted July 15, 2009 I was talking about the doctrine of Labyrinths books, that are believe it or not, very good.I think Dylanfanatic agrees with me, so there.:argumentofquestinableauthority: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Larry. Posted July 15, 2009 Share Posted July 15, 2009 Yes, I do agree that they are quite good, questionable authority quoting aside! :P Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jaqen the FatManderly Posted July 17, 2009 Share Posted July 17, 2009 You might try Lord of the Rings or The Hobbit. Fellow enthusiast BookWyrm is the only one to mentioned The Hobbit so far. They're pretty good. The only 'kid' is Pippin. Hooray for the chubby, respectable, middle-aged hero!In fact, it's odd that so many people supposed to be copying Tolkien went the farm boy route instead of for the comfortably fat middle aged type. Older folks have the best love stories and make for better dialogue and first person insight. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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