[Stego]

I'm sure some of you have seen this and that most of you have not. Apparently, form the video, a mentally disturbed man is beaten mercilessly by a black belt Marine in a dojo. His jaw is seen to break. He is beaten despite trying to give up. For entertainment. To teach 'a lesson.'



WARNING!!! EXTREME VIOLENCE. NOT HOLLYWOOD NONSENSE.

The video can be seen here.


I post it here to start discussion. Or to vent. Or to try to be able to sleep after watching this. I'm not sure. I do know that I am sickened beyond measure.

There are investigations going on. Some think the man was killed, some say he survived. But no one has been able to locate him in the 12 days since this video surfaced.



I was a Marine. I was a martial artist for many years, including at the very time of this video being filmed. This is absolutely not what martial arts is supposed to be about. This is certainly not what I felt the Marine Corps was about.




The instructor Bobby J Blythe had this to say about the incident:

'This dummy was in my shopping center while I was on a Bodyguard Job in Washington, DC. This guy was in the Pizza Hut eating pizza off the plates of others and the Pizza Hut Manager ran him out with a pistol. Later the very same day, police officers were called to remove him from a nearby pharmacy after having been caught reaching into customer's purses. A short time after that, he visited a Napa Auto Parts store next to my Karate Dojo and told the management he planned on teaching in that Dojo and that Jesus taught him.

'The Napa guys told him he was confused (their polite way of warning the man against such action), but not wanting to miss a show, they told the man they would close early just to watch and that he must not know the owner, which is nobody to play with.. Needless to say, the police pulled him out of the dumpster behind my Karate Dojo where he was neatly placed. Semper Fi to all my Marine brothers. The karate student in the white is also a Marine Sgt. and a brand new Black Belt. Never get stupid with a Marine, you could get jacked up and have your clock stopped.'"






I'd like to get stupid with this motherfucker. I'd like to get bugfuck ridiculous.

This post has been edited by Stego: 27 August 2009 - 03:16 AM

[Lord O' Bones]

Stego, don't let this make you at all ashamed of the Corp. Even though you would and should expect there to be more honor on display from a Marine than your average Joe, fucking soulless assholes will still slip through the cracks.

Everyone else, if you have a soft heart, don't watch this.

[dalThor]

I didn't click on the link, I just don't want to see it.

It seems as though the police have reopened the investigation.
KPMH News

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Blythe has not been named a suspect. Attempts by KMPH News to speak with him at his home in Hanford have gone unanswered.

Investigators say although Blythe is not seen personally hurting the victim in the video, he could still face legal troubles.

Unfortunately, wankstains appear in all walks of life.

[Galactus]

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Why I'm Embarassed to be a Marine.

Did hell just freeze over? What's that airborne bacon doing here?

[Lord O' Bones]

Stego, peruse this Wiki page for a moment.

[Xray the Enforcer]

There is no way I am clicking that link. I can't even imagine how tough it's going to be to find (if he's still alive) the victim in the video.

[Ser Scot A Ellison]

I can't believe those guys stood by and watched this. Much less taped it. He fought, (maybe not well I don't know I'm not a martial artist) he gave up, the other guy kept coming.

[Ixodes]

The first words uttered after the guy stomped on an incapacitated man was "Drag him out the back door." For fucks sake.

I don't understand how people can be so cruel. Dark side of human nature, I guess.

If I got into a fight I would have my ass handed to me quickly and thoroughly. But watching something like this makes me sincerely hope I would have the courage to stand up and try to stop something like that if I ever witness a similar situation.

[tenalpia]

I watched :(

I feel sick :sick:

There will always be jerks who take good things and twist them into something horrible. I don't think you need to be ashamed of the Corps, the only people at fault here are the people involved with beating the crap out of someone and with standing by and watching it.

[Lord O' Bones]

tenalpia, on Aug 27 2009, 06.05, said:

I watched :(

I feel sick :sick:

I wasn't kidding. Neither was Stego.

DO NOT WATCH THIS UNLESS YOU WANT TO SEE SOMETHING BRUTAL AND SOULLESS.

NOT KIDDING.

[Brude]

Boy, these guys are real upstanding citizens. Here's a video of Bobby Joe giving a lecture to a few of his black belts about why they have "special power" and can do whatever they want, whenever they want - I guess because they are strong and others are weak? I didn't even listen to all of it, but you get the idea pretty quickly what he's on about.

Some more insight into this guy's mentality.

[Chataya de Venoge]

Yeah, I couldn't watch it. I started to, but I knew it was going to be bad when the owner of the Dojo was trying to prod the guy into showing some of his "karate moves" that "Jesus taught him".

I feel relieved that I didn't watch it after clicking on the newspaper link that said that the guy had his head stomped on.

That's just not right. And (from what's been said about what happened) it's very disturbing to think that there were people just idly watching this, not doing anything to say, "hey, dude, that's enough."

[-Jade-]

Chataya de Venoge, on Aug 27 2009, 08.21, said:

That's just not right. And (from what's been said about what happened) it's very disturbing to think that there were people just idly watching this, not doing anything to say, "hey, dude, that's enough."

yeah, its really disgusting. Sadly, there are assholes in any group of people. I've met some amazing Marines before. But the only guy who has every tried to beat me was a marine too. There is always going to be some percentage of awful people anywhere you go. unfortunately.

I hope the mentally challanged man turns up somewhere and wasn't killed. I wonder why this video surfaced so long after the fact? maybe someone was feeling guilty.

[Brude]

Chataya de Venoge, on Aug 27 2009, 09.21, said:

That's just not right. And (from what's been said about what happened) it's very disturbing to think that there were people just idly watching this, not doing anything to say, "hey, dude, that's enough."

Watch the video I linked and you'll understand the mentality better, sort of. The guy was teaching his students that since they have the power and the strength, they can do anything they want. It's a power trip, ego thing. Beating up defenseless people makes them feel better about themselves because it confirms their sense of self worth. Not to be glib, but it reminds me of the Cobra Kai dojo in "Karate Kid," same sort of bully mentality.

[Ormond]

I don't plan on watching the video. But I guess in some ways I am most disturbed by the following sentence in the statement:

Needless to say, the police pulled him out of the dumpster behind my Karate Dojo where he was neatly placed.

If the police got the guy out of the dumpster behind the karate dojo, why didn't this get prosecuted in 1984? Was the police work that shoddy that the couldn't figure out who beat up this guy back then?

I suppose if the guy died, or if his mental illness was considered to make him a poor witness, maybe it was difficult to prove the karate dojo was where his injuries happened. But if the police did do their job, it would seem that not only did no witness stop this assault, but none of them were willing to be truthful to the police about it afterwards.

[ken stone For EHK]

The thing that surprised me was that the guy that got beat up put up a pretty good fight, really. I was expecting him to be completely defenseless but then he showed he had some moves. Jesus is a surprisingly good martial arts trainer.

[Lightning Lord]

I'm supposed to be going to bed soon. I really wish I hadn't watched that video.

Stego, I've met Marines that I don't really want to have a beer with and I've met Marines that I'd buy the first ten rounds for. This guy is a freak aberration. He's no more a Marine than my houseplant, since neither qualifies as human.

This post has been edited by Lightning Lord: 27 August 2009 - 08:55 AM

[Brude]

Ormond, on Aug 27 2009, 09.42, said:

If the police got the guy out of the dumpster behind the karate dojo, why didn't this get prosecuted in 1984? Was the police work that shoddy that the couldn't figure out who beat up this guy back then?

I suppose if the guy died, or if his mental illness was considered to make him a poor witness, maybe it was difficult to prove the karate dojo was where his injuries happened. But if the police did do their job, it would seem that not only did no witness stop this assault, but none of them were willing to be truthful to the police about it afterwards.

It shouldn't have been too hard to investigate, right? Should have been a lot of blood evidence on that floor, unless they cleaned it up well. Then again, DNA testing was in its infancy then (or was it just blood-type testing then?). But it sounds like maybe they didn't even bother taking a look around - how do you not find someone beat up and thrown in a dumpster (dead?) behind a Karate dojo and not at least ask questions and put some pressure on them?

[Xray the Enforcer]

Brude, on Aug 27 2009, 09.57, said:

It shouldn't have been too hard to investigate, right? Should have been a lot of blood evidence on that floor, unless they cleaned it up well. Then again, DNA testing was in its infancy then (or was it just blood-type testing then?).

DNA testing was in its infancy and was well beyond the means of most jurisdictions to afford or even contemplate. And if the blood evidence was cleaned up well, I am not sure the then-current methods (RFLP) were sensitive enough to yield reliable results. The much-more-sensitive PCR, which amplifies scant DNA evidence to levels high enough to test) had only been invented in 1983 and was still a difficult and time-consuming protocol in 1984.

[Chataya de Venoge]

I just want to state the obvious, here, because I'm even disturbed about thinking about this.

Obvious statement follows:
I hate people who hurt mentally challenged people, small children, or pets. There is no hell too deep, and no death too painful. Drawing and quartering should be reinstated. Or perhaps burning at the stake.