The Malazan series is going to be realistically fully realized and complete.
In another 12+ years when all 22 books are out and all the story arcs begun back in Gardens of the Moon
, Memories of Ice
and House of Chains
are finally completed (some of them by another writer, mind), sure.
ASoIaF risks to not be realistically realized and completed.
And so does Malazan
. There's a hell of a long way to go yet.
You still don't think the series finishes with The Crippled God
though, do you? Not even the authors are suggesting that. The only thing that finishes in the next book is the Crippled God story arc. Many, many other storylines stretching back to Book 1 will be going on for many years and many more books to come.
The series was a project that Erikson had and tried to sell for a very long time. In fact he was turned down because publishers didn't want to commit with such a thing.
If you want me to believe that argument bring proofs. Because as far as I know what you're saying here is made up by your biased self.
Erikson initially only sold Gardens of the Moon
and an option on the sequel to Bantam. Orion/Gollancz tried to snatch him up for more books after that, but Bantam replied with the enticing suggestion that he could write as many books as he wanted. He mapped out the possible additional story arcs and came up with eight more books (beyond Gardens
and the sequel), consisting of three distinct storylines that wrapped around one another. Bantam then gave him a £65-grand-per-book advance for all ten (which is, I believe, still a record for a debut fantasy author). So he didn't know it was going to be a ten-book series until after he'd sold Gardens of the Moon
, so no-one at all was scared off by its length. He didn't know it was going to be that long before 1999.
As for Bantam's motives in why they wanted a ten-volume epic fantasy series in 1999 at precisely the same moment Jordan and Goodkind's sales were going through the roof and hitting the bestseller lists, I don't think it requires a genius to work it out. Not that's anything to be sniffed at as a publishing motive. I'm sure Voyager and Bantam US were happy to be getting seven rather than three books from GRRM once he hit the bestseller lists. I'm reasonably confident that if Abercrombie suggested a six-book series to Gollancz or something alon those lines they'd say, "Bring it on!"
I never said that ASoIaF failed because it sucks. I said it failed because the project got out of hand and it is likely that Martin can't bring it to a conclusion.
There is no more sign that ASoIaF
cannot be brought to a conclusion than Malazan
can be. Come back in ten years and if the Malazan
sequels, prequels and whatever are finished and ASoIaF
still isn't, than you may have a point. At this time it is too early to say that for sure.
Relic, on Oct 24 2009, 00.27, said:
Have they picked up a full order of episodes for Season 1?
Not yet, although the pilot by itself is costing millions.
I'm sure HBO doesnt feel all that great about how long it takes GRRM to come out with new material. It HAS to be some sort of a concern for them.
Obviously not that
much of a concern because they wouldn't be making it in the first place if it were, or they'd be waiting for the series to be completed. Since they aren't, it isn't a concern. They probably have a contingency plan or have at least thought about it during the process that led to this point.